U. S. Department of state and got a very high level person on the phone. And i said, heres a situation unless you can intercede and resolve this. This trip is over. After night, time crisis calls with Government Officials, japans Prime Minister eventually gives the go ahead. The next morning, look at hers plane received clearance to fly from sapporo to pyongyang, a flight route that doesnt officially exist. When the plane was probably 100 miles east of the north korean ballenger, ie, the japanese air Traffic Controller said were now terminating served service. North korea is in front of you have a nice day and turned off the radio. The Pyongyang Airport contacts the plane by radio hours later on the ground team is thats accorded to the building where warm beer has been hospitalized. For months. We were dropped off at the front door of the hospital and the company down a hallway up the stairs. And when we entered the room, there were 2 doctors and 4 nurses. One was the chief of staff of the hospital and one was the doctor who had been charge of autos care during the time that he had been in the hospital. And so they said you can examine auto. My 1st impression was hes not in a coma. He, he was awake, he had his eyes open. He was not responsive, purposefully responsive, but he was reactive to noise, touch, so on. And the doctors and nurses confirm that examines warm beer masks the doctors. More questions there was a standard physical exam. I listened to his heart and lungs checked his eyes, pupils did a neurological exam as best i could. I had wife elvis, enough time to examine. Thats when i started asking questions, they said lets, lets go out and you finish your exam, then well go out and talk, you must have and also on your mind, what happened to make him to a condition, right . Yeah, absolutely. But what did you think . Well, the North Koreans had 2 possible explanations. One was botulism poisoning which they cannot test for. They said he had eaten a pork meal as he the day went into prison and could he have had botulism poisoning which can cause you to stop breathing, but it would not happen that quickly. And general didnt sound plausible. The other was that they had given him 2 sedatives on the night he went in because he was very agitated and that either he had a bad reaction or they gave him too much that they said that themselves did you have a feeling in north korea that the doctors were hiding something from you. I certainly was looking for signs of torture. Could could this be torture . And what i concluded from my physical exam was that i could not see any signs of torture. I had the feeling they were, they were forthcoming with their information. They didnt seem that they were hiding anything. And we examined all of his skin and found no evidence of any skin breakdown after hospitalization. That one excess, pretty remarkable. So that to me, indicated that he got good kerry got attentive care and yeah theyll, its an indicator that you have in mind the parents waiting not knowing what that something they dont have to do in the whole time. The whole time we were there since warm because parents still wont talk to us. We talk to people, they have been more open with a 2 hours drive from new york. We meet one of them. The warm beers had turned to him for help early on. A former diplomat with korean experience. We discuss what strategic patience means for the families. Should they remain silent to keep from endangering negotiations or not . There . During many, many hours of rather emotional conversations that we had on the phone. I began to hear this argument from them and i pushed back against that. And i gave them evidence that there were efforts being made not just efforts by me and other civilians, but people in the government. But i also made the point to them that something was different about the way that autos case was being handled. And it made the normal diplomatic intervention that you would expect to work with the North Koreans. It made that in effect of the warm bears have even stopped talking to auto school. Month after month goes by with no sign of life from their son. Nobody knows that in faraway north korea. He was seen from the outset as a prisoner of war, with no access to diplomats following trumps inauguration. Parents speak out and accuse the Obama Administration of failure. Although they met with his secretary of state john kerry several times. They confide in trumps Favorite Network socks, news easy prey for their hosts, ongoing partisan crusade against obamas democrats. And john kerry was secretary of state at the time to just get to him when that was. And what was the outcome of that nice guy. Nice person. You in any way . Totally exasperated and overwhelmed with north korea. Totally. Did he help you in anyone . No, absolutely not. Did anyone in the state Department Help you in any way . No, absolutely not. The 1st thing, after i got the phone call was to teach you read the state department, log on, you know, were going to write korea before you let him go out and which someone from the state department, so that other words mentally knowing you for the kidnapping. And imprisonment of your son was your fault. That was the message from the state department that they acted like that we were ignorant. Thanks to clay for letting him go. We feel we should arrange judge to you and blamed you for your sons kidnapping by the north korean government. Its like it was your fault. Thats what you got when you reach out to u. S. Government for help. You got a plane in churchman and they asked us to stay quiet because they said its bad. Our for everyone involved better for the bureaucrats because nobody knows how little theyre doing when nobody talks about it to give a message for this new state department for secretary killers. And would you like him to do you sure. Id like to work with him to bring out how he can make a difference. Here. Hes a do or maybe disrespectful to ask for that president. Trump. I ask you, bring my son. If you can make a difference here. I pray this is rob, thanks a lot for joining us. One thing i know for sure has not been a friend thats lost the kids. And thats something that i was talking to, and cindy wont be earth while it is that those things take time. Doesnt mean that you need to sit back and trust that the government is doing everything for you because the government has complex of interests. But it takes time and on average, north korea, its between a year and a half in 2 years. And in all of the scenarios that ive ever imagined working on this and we worked on it for about 18 months, i always imagine that it does get resolved. That does come home. And i had never imagined all this time the scenario of what actually ended up happening. What upset me was that it took them a year to admit that he was in a coma. They never told us that the north korean contacts we had said that they did know either that he was in a coma. Thats possible. He was control the young man, auto body, the security services, and they dont communicate with each other. This is a country of enormous secrecy, only the top, only the top echelon knows whats going on and they decide who gets the information within their own government. The north korean doctors hand over their c. T. Scans of warm beers brain to dr. Flickinger. He writes a report, but still warm beer is a prisoner. The door opens and here comes the judge in the judges robe, he goes to that same spot i was in and he conducted a little 10 minute Court Hearing to commute on a warm beer set. So he was still a prisoner, he had to have an official hearing to release him. And then at that point they brought in all belongings and they wanted us to go through one piece by piece and check it off. We said, just give us his passport, his wallet, just give us everything. On june 13th, 2017, on a warm beer. Finally, he leaves north korea. The vibration noise of the airplane was, was really difficult for him and it made him stiffen up almost as if he were having a compulsion. So we gave small doses of the standard, those sedating drugs to 2 nurses. And i said, talk to each other about how do we want the parents to see him . Do we want him to be fully awake or do we want him to be calm and sedated and we should be calm and sedated. Crew flies home via their planned around until the white house administrations claims of success. Create another mishap. At the president s direction, the department of state has secured the release of auto warm beer from north korea is on his way in route home to be reunited, reunited with his family. We began to talk with the Ground Handling people at Cincinnati International. And they said the media was showing up truck after truck and it was getting out of control. And we said, look, we highly recommend that we change the arrival airport from Cincinnati International airport to lumpkin Regional Airport one beers parents. And his 2 younger siblings are waiting outside the hangar. The rescue team decides to give them time on board alone with auto. We all understood what a terrible situation this was. For them. We have scores of them onto the plane 15 minutes out from the airport. We had given him another dose of the sedative. He was very calm and quiet. The minute parents got up there, started talking to him, he woke up. So as it was my impression of the nurses impression that yeah, he had some level recognize his parents, boys, it was good that i think so. Yeah. He just merely woke up and it was kind of in that agitated state so hard to watch. Fred warm beer later describes their reunion. I knelt down by his side and i hugged him and i told him i missed him and i was so glad that he made it home. Since the airport doesnt have the necessary equipment, warm beer is carried from the plane. While his mother and father look on this will be the last public photograph of him for a long time. She and i firmly believe that he fought to stay alive through the worst that the North Koreans could put him through in order to return to the family and community he loves. But the hope that he recovers is short lived. He shows no signs of understanding wine, which responding to verbal commands or awareness of his surroundings. A week later, the family gives up. They have all life support systems switched off, auto warm beer dice, fred and cindy warm beer continue to stay out of the limelight. But when north korea itself claims to be the victim in the case, they make another appearance on fox news. They describe autos return home in stark terms. Otto had a shaved head. He had a feeding tube coming out of his nose. He had he would. He was staring blankly into space, jerking violently. He was an ally and he was deaf. As we looked at him and tried to comfort him. It looked like someone had taken a pair of pliers and rearranged his bottom. Within 2 days of otto being home, his fever spiked to 104. 00 degrees. He had a large scar on his right foot. North korea is not a victim their terrorist. A todays droid hate. They purposely and intentionally injured ato. With no evidence. d from twitters great interview, on who was tortured beyond belief by north korea before and also with no evidence. A Government Official had told the New York Times that although had been repeatedly beaten however, neither the hospital nor the coroner, we consulted, found any evidence of torture. But one was the cause of death. We have evidence that his brain was deprived of oxygen for a length of time significant enough to cause severe anoxic and suffer a lot. But the other words, brain damage caused by the lack of oxygen to the brain, has to be at least at least 4 minutes. This is an example of what a normal brain looks like. And this is an example of a brain with changes similar to what auto had, where you can see that the ventricles are huge. And the rest of the brain tissue is really shrunken, meaning that the entire brain was deprived of oxygen for a significant amount of time. If he was struck here, he might have changes here, but then he would may also have something called contra coup injury, which is right across the brain to this side of the head. He might have changes as well there. But what caused the brain injury . Waterboarding electric shocks a Suicide Attempt all possible she says, including pyongyangs own explanation. Theyve, they gave him something to sedate him that made him stop breathing for a period of time. A long enough period of time. Absolutely. Her specialists also examined the scar on his foot. Their findings were inconclusive. I cant argue with anybody that says, hey, this could have been caused by electrodes. It could have been, but maybe it was something that was placed in the skin that got infected, that could have been 2. Series. Theres that thing specific about that. Hell discard one remains, is the allegation that warm beers, lower teeth were forcibly twisted, yet the coroner says there would be signs of trauma. This is an example of the changes that he had in his lower teeth, the friends, a code, ontologies looked at it as well and agreed that there was no trauma at all to those roots. And you cant pull teeth out and then rearrange them and put them in different places without there being trauma to the roots. If i had any evidence and concrete evidence that there is a criminal act here, i would be very loud about it and it would definitely be stating that unfortunately, the evidence we have does not point to anything in particular. As far as this is what happened to him at 1st, the coroner withholds the result out of respect for the mourning family, but in her mailbox. She also found warnings if l. , vaguely threatening. And that i shouldnt, that i was being disloyal to the president. And that i shouldnt disagree with the president , especially in such a public way efforts to get to the bottom of the warm beer case have resulted in countless files and articles. Much of the information is contradictory. Establishing the truth would also pose a challenge to the federal court in washington, where the warm beers file a lawsuit against north korea. With the help of governor unfriendly experts and lawyers, pyongyang does not contest of the case and the trial takes place with the plaintiffs only and strangely enough, without flook eager and the coroner appearing as one Expert Witness urges the judge to hand down a spectacular verdict. I replied, i do believe that this case has the potential to go beyond the personal tragedies suffered by the warm, via family and perhaps one day safe law eaves that is Deter North Korea with the right kind of punitive damages. And the judgement that the judge will make the expert continues making controversial claims, citing the question of auto warm beers teeth, for example. His teeth were in perfect, you know, following alignment straight. When he was returned, it was clear that at least 2 officer, lower teeth had been alone, which is a polite way of saying, plucked out and then shelf back in. He also claims that north korea tortured warm beer to deter the u. S. From military action. But washington didnt even know of his condition. I cant follow that they need a hostage if they provoke the war as some kind of security issue or s. But that doesnt work if you kill us, it will where there are no reason do they have to kill it. So this is slightly different angle of discussion. Very important. But didnt all of korea intend to kill its victim or not . I dont know for sure, but that does not matter in the legal case. In the end, the court orders north korea to pay half a 1000000000. 00 based among other things on the president s public confirmation that north korea tortured auto for a while, the warm beers publicly stand by the president , lending their support to his fight against the north korean dictatorship after a shameful trial, the dictatorship sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. Ottos wonderful parents, fred and cindy, warm beer are here with us tonight. Thank you. Are powerful witnesses to a menace that threatens our world and your strength truly inspires are. So thank you very much. Thank you at some point, the north Korean Leader clearly decides that his rockets provide the country with sufficient protection. Maybe he spent enough time studying the u. S. President to see he only needs to compliment trump to get his way. And although kim refuses to demobilize, starts to praise him like never before. He even exonerates kim in the warm beer case. d d i dont think that the top leadership knew about it, you know, got a lot of people, a big country, a lot of people. And in those prisons, in those camps you have a lot of people and some really bad things happened. So really, really bad. Why are you what he chose to be . He tells me that he did know about it. And i will take him at his word. Yes, maam, go ahead please. No warm beer has served his purpose. Kim jong il is now a friend of donald trump. He wrote me beautiful letters, and theyre great letters. We fell in love. The warm beers are shocked and react and writing him and his evil regime are responsible for the death of our son. No excuses or lavish praise can change that. I had a cold and talked to friends in the just to check in every now and then we talk a little bit and that was an important moment because i knew that they did that must have been emotional. Its hard for me to explain it. Donald trump, president trumps tactics and this i am supportive of engagement with north korea. Obviously thats what we do. I am not a fan of the high wire personal diplomacy because it might work on a tactical level. But when it fails, were on the brink of war. I would hope that he was not trying to use the family. I think he genuinely felt for the family and for auto. But then his statements about my buddy and very disconcerting and disappointing. In new york, we soon come across more disturbing details. Allegedly, the official torture claim was controversial from the outset. Within the trumpet ministration says x. Diplomat evans revere. He received a call after citing the accusation in a radio broadcast. I merely cited the New York Times story and the fact that a u. S. Government official apparently had confirmed that there had been torture. This made the senior official who called me rather upset. And he made a point of calling me directly and saying that there had been no torture that auto came back and it was obvious that he had been well cared for in the hospital that he didnt have any bedsores of the things that you would normally expect of a torture victim to have i said, im not confirming it are not denying it. Im just repeating what he had said. And he said, well, i just want to let you know for the record that there was no church or we ask in washington, if thats true, the white house doesnt answer. The state Department Responds by saying, we wont have a comment on this when we ask for permission to film on a warm beers grave, his mother agrees to accompany us hours later. Its clear she isnt coming. She texts us to cancel the interview. A year later, we meet in berlin, the warm beers now see themselves as International Campaigners against north korea. For autos sake, thats when i, we did a tandem bicycle race and that sato playing football. And he loved that. They also show us previously unseen pictures. And thats our motto, look, when we got him home, thats otto with his mom. They are plagued by more than their loss. They still need clarity. That doesnt just happen. And he didnt have any scars on his body. Thats that, that doesnt just happen to think about this. A 21 year old kid whos like, i described works out all the time. Its healthy. How did you end up at that age . People out there were just looking for how does he feel about the mission that both succeeded and failed . Shortly after his return home to cartersville, georgia, news channels claim that the u. S. Paid north korea 2000000. 00 for hospital costs, which is later denied. And north korea insists that warm beer returned home healthy. The North Koreans said they had to at least, although in good shape and he died in the us. Whats your comment on . Yes, i know. Oh shit that they took him back to america. He died in 6 days. Well, what i read out of it all, i can do, shake my head right too many lies. He says, and i was only the doctor and his mother figuring on the move between the enemy might start 10 or join us cause not even in coronavirus times it is not easy to catch me taught hand leached, be honest to goodness contract armstrong for the job you give us your country, people will make you rich people. Oil will provide you with jobs. The oil will take good care of you. Less intense because it will forever took hold of the west coast of scotland in 2007. 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