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The European Unions breck said negotiate a Michel Barnier says hes ready to intensify talks on a trade deal with the u. K. Last week british Prime Minister Boris Johnson said negotiations were effectively over the u. K. And e. U. Are trying to strike a deal by the end of the year. They have been new clashes between armenian and Azerbaijani Forces in the disputed region of nagornokarabakh despite a humanitarian ceasefire agreed late saturday both sides accusing each other of violating the truce it was the 2nd attempt at honesty is in a week hundreds have died and thousands have been displaced since fighting fled last month. This is deja news from berlin follow us on twitter and instagram at the news of visit our web site d w dot com. Americans are turning out in Record Numbers in early voting standing in line for hours and that in the middle of a pandemic the polls show joe biden with a commanding lead over president would draw if trump were to pull ahead this late in the campaign when it would be a 1st a dream come true for a nightmare come to life. In 2 weeks well know hopefully until then anything and everything is possible im burnt off in berlin this is the day. This is. Like time the election this is the 1st hello all right. This is history due to have a secure the vote and it matters when they get it done make sure my vote is counted in person that you vote. Is the best but it was right you did not want to do it by mail this election is a choice between a trump suit which were in right now for a 5 depression ive been waiting to vote since november 4th 2016 its time to end to this sickness the corruption. The hate. Also coming up as the 2nd wave of the corona virus grips most of europe no one wants a return to National Walk downs can the outbreak be managed in the u. K. The welsh will soon find out before your break is the shortest we can meet. But that means that you will have to be shot. In. The dark we needed to turn on the volume. And to our viewers watching on p. B. S. In the United States and to all of you around the world welcome we begin the day at the start of americas fortnight of for an ethic perhaps frantic forecasting in 2 weeks what will it be donald trump or joe biden after the shock result of the 2016 election americans and the world are understandably reluctant to predict the outcome this time around but after 4 years of the Trump Presidency Many Americans and much of the globe d find themselves doing nothing else it is a future arriving with sky high uncertainty that has a lot to do with the mistakes missteps and misjudgment. Which made Donald Trumps victory 4 years ago so seismic dare we trust the polls as we did then no we dont because those polls theyre history the polling being conducted now has been recalibrated for better accuracy and the latest polls continue to show joe biden with a strong lead over donald trump in any other Election Year the Biden Campaign would go into this final stretch with high confidence but in 2020 it is all about killing those mail in ballots and confirming your participation in early voting last week the state of georgia began early voting there more than 1000000 votes have already been cast and yet the barriers to exercising this basic right remain the same as he was gunned to reports on the fight in georgia against Voter Suppression. Voting its the foundation of any democracy everything is being done to make sure all eligible voters have their say or is that i came here to georgia to find out about something that Voting Rights groups say is a real problem Voter Suppression purposely making it harder for some people to cast their ballot now georgia has a history of keeping africanamericans from the polls activists say it is still happening. Things heated up in 2013 when the Supreme Court gave states the power to change election laws and they no longer have to prove the changes they made did not discriminate. States like these took action that republicans say make sure that no one can vote illegally democrats say they unfairly target minorities they introduced a stricter voter identification last they purged inactive voters from registries and across the south hundreds of polling places close these people manage to get to the voting station but for others who dont have a car to get around in the millions who dont have official i. D. It is difficult the protections can be barriers and they more often affect black and immigrant communities we are in the land of Voter Suppression where the secretary of States Office backed by the legislature embraced by the governor are figuring out how do we stop the demographic change that is happening in georgia. Early voting in this years president ial election people stand in line for hours but is this really Voter Suppression. This idea that theres Voter Suppression going on today is just a myth or a long wire its because people are making the mistake of voting early rather than voting on election day when there are many bad people or polling places open money a mitchell will be voting early the stationery designer says it took her 4 hours to vote in the primary election in june she fears longer lines on november 3rd and shes not going to risk missing her chance to vote its my right the constitution says i have a right to vote people die for that and i dont take that lightly. You know i can only imagine sorry people seeing other folks being able to cast a vote and for them who want to be told theyre not human into to be told that whatever you think whatever you want your community it doesnt matter. I reflect on that sorry. And thats why i stood and. She is not alone in her determination to important that we show that we deserve equal rights just like everyone else so thats why United States of america is the country it is you know democracy everyone has a vote theres a lot in this going on in the country and if we dont speak out its going to continue to get like. That sentiment has sparked a Record Number of americans to turn out early to vote. And my colleagues. Who filed that report just returned from georgia she is in our washington d. C. Bureau tonight good evening to you sumi said lets pick up on your report there after what you saw and heard in georgia and based on what we are seeing in states with early voting what would you say are the main challenges now for voters. Right now take you through some of those challenges the biggest right now both for voters and Election Officials is still the pandemic i mean it does change the way an election can be carried out some of the pictures that we saw of people voting in lines thats partially because when youre standing in line you have to observe social distancing requirements that also there are hygiene measures in place that have to be observed in polling stations so it changes how quickly and efficiently voting can take place then theres the fact that there is a shortage of poll workers as well now poll workers are volunteers traditionally they are older and because they were at risk if they were to contract kovac 1000. 00 many older poll workers say that theyre staying home this year and so states are scrambling to find new younger poll workers but theyre playing catch up then theres also the fact that a Record Number of americans are voting by mail now mail in ballots are more likely to be rejected brant because theyre not that easy you have to make sure that your signature matches whats on record that you dot the is cross the t. s seal the ballot correctly and if you are a 1st time mail in voter the likelihood that you might make a mistake is a little bit higher and last but not least there is the fact that the u. S. Postal service is under strain as well people worried about their ballots showing up on time all of that said brian i do want to mention that i talked to an election official who said america is a diverse vibrant democracy elections work if 150000000. 00 americans turn out to do something at the same time its going to be a bit messy but by and large its going to work its right and you know theres almost 00 history of any fraudulent elections in the United States despite that weve heard the u. S. President say time and time again that this election will be rigged thats added to the level of uncertainty that were seeing now is that coloring this entire election experience for republicans versus for democrats. But ill tell you that the voters i spoke to in line in georgia were very concerned they were worried that their ballots might be rejected that their ballots might not turn out on time that november 3rd could bring chaos now we did see a poll here in august that showed about 50 percent of people said theyd vote for joe biden said they wanted a vote by mail and only around 10 percent of people said they would vote for President Trump wanted a vote by mail while the democrats i spoke to in line some of them had changed their mind they originally had requested absentee ballots they decided to go vote in person because the president had cast aspersions on the election system they were worried that their ballots might be rejected or that he might declare victory on november 3rd Something Else what happened on the on line when the mail in ballots are counted for republicans brant i should say that even though Election Officials say there is no massive widespread voter fraud happening for some republicans of voter fraud is a real issue they believe people are trying to cast their ballot twice legally and thats why were seeing its the american way voting lawsuits there were 30 voting lawsuits still pending right now in everything from whether you need a witness to sign your ballot to when a ballot can arrive so well have to keep our eye on that as well or in this look later in the week were going to see both trumping biden together the final time probably before the election after the debacle of the 1st debate 2 weeks ago is it safe to say that interest in this final debate could not be higher. Brant i would say theres a lot of interest and a good deal of trepidation as well as you said that 1st debate is seen as something of a debacle and i have to say that this really is crucial for a President Trump after that 1st debate he actually lost points in the polls to joe biden because viewers on both sides of the aisle i didnt really improve of the hectoring the insulting the interrupting and in the town hall debates between the 2 candidates last week joe biden actually drew 1000000 more viewers than President Trump and last but not least brant you know this is also pretty remarkable that republican some republican lawmakers have actually publicly voice their concern that the president is heading for a loss on november 3rd something we havent really heard from the republicans yet so this really is going to be a crucial debate for President Trump he loves them though he loves to be on stage he actually wanted a 4th debate he was pushing for that in the summer he thinks that he really can shine on the stage and he is hoping to pick up some voters by his performance on thursday so well see if hes able to do so well see if you believe you that im sure well be talking about that as well see museum is going on the story for us in washington d. C. Good to see you see me thank you. All countries across europe are tightening restrictions in an attempt to slow the spread of covert 19 exactions among the latest measures belgium has joined france in imposing a nighttime curfew switzerland has made facemask compulsory in public spaces the most drastic measures are in wills in the United Kingdom the government there has announced a strict 2 week lockdown beginning this friday heres the 1st minister of wales mark drake for between for the 23rd of october on the 9th of november everyone in wales will be required to stay at home. This means working from home if that is possible and the only exceptions will be critical work because im jobs where working from home is simply not possible all nonessential retail Leisure Hospitality and tourism businesses will close its all right for more on this lockdown and the challenges facing european governments in dealing with a pandemic i want to bring in our Political Correspondent emmanuel shahs shes here in berlin and the independent Health Analysts dr John Campbell he joins us from carlisle in the u. K. To both of you good to see you dr campbell let me start with you the walk down in wales that theyre introducing it is very strict its going to be 2 weeks intensive do measures like this targeted laser like lockdowns do they work. We know that lock downs were brought in because we saw it working when there was high cases in italy and spain and the u. K. In what we now call the 1st way youve so we know these measures are going to be effective but the problem is wales of course is only part of the United Kingdom relatively small population only about 3100000. 00 People Living in wales compared to 66000000. 00 in the u. K. And of course is not a firm border the border is porous now during this time of the lockdown up until the 9th of november theres going to be an essentially in a travel ban almost a hard border between wales and england so things should be quite effective then but then as soon as that period of time is finished and we know that period of time is going to be time limited because its called its called a fire break or a short sharp shock as soon as that period of time is finished then its going to be difficult to stop travel in and out of wales again so we could get this situation where yes the lock down will work in wales because people wont be mixing but then are we going to get a rebound effect afterwards a lot of countries of showed time and time again that countries that go together cohesively as a whole country we think of japan we think of south korea tend to do better and part of the problem in the u. K. Now is weve got this disparate approach weve got manchester fighting london weve got scotland doing one thing weve got wales doing Something Else weve got different parts of england doing Different Things and were not really moving forward as a whole country so let me work in the short term although it will work locally im not so sure about the longer term do you do you think that the government of Boris Johnson should try to impose a lockdown for the entire country than. Its actually very difficult at the moment because scotlands got its own 1st minister well as it got its own 1st minister londons got an executive manchesters got an executive matt and the exact executive mad man jeff that doesnt want to do what the government wants it to do now hold similarly of course the bars johnson government and dont think could impose that but i think theyre rather reluctant to do that because of the sorts of subsidiarity we have in the u. K. At the moment where this different areas doing Different Things you know this pandemic has exposed a lot of weaknesses perhaps in individuals but also in political systems and i think this weakness has been shown in the u. K. Political system via this disparate approach that were happening at the moment and all this talk about germany it has been struggling to find a National Consensus on covert 19 policy here is german chancellor Angela Merkel in a video message that she delivered from this past weekend take a listen preferences if mid thirtys meet up with far fewer people with the outside or at home to refrain from any trips that on absolutely necessary and the celebrations that absolutely necessary please whenever possible stay at home and your place of residence. And you know when or how do you explain this why is the chancellor reduced if you will to issuing a direct appeal to you to the german people surely a clear National Policy would be a more effective means here. Well yes friends a would be a way of seeing that there are 2 difficulties here faced by far it is in the Current Situation because germany is a federal state well old 16 regions have to come to an agreement when it comes to such restrictions and after mark on the go see asians last week they managed partially to do so and they decided to limit the number of people allowed to meet you know close space to impose our restrictions and not gold in bars and restaurants in risk zones something that was already implemented in big cities that have been hit hard by this and then make such as the capital about things such as pond for it but those challenges is the 2nd challenge is that those. Sometimes being overturned by administrative cords to other kountry when those decide that they go too far that the rest of most of the auto it is disproportionate or unfair towards one sector the Hospitality Branch for example and thats what we saw in palin for example where the 11 pm to 6 am curfew on restaurants and bars. And has been overturned for those of the bars and restaurants which last complained so its its a very difficult to have a common policy in terms of restrictions and it is very difficult for people to lead in this uncertainty as well yeah despite this confusion and this curiosity you will hear in germany the country still seems to be very better than its leaders doesnt. Well this is where if you will that well see that were seeing an exponential growth of the number of infections and thats it becomes out of control everybodys trying to avoid a 2nd that in favor of localized actions localized dances but it becomes increasingly difficult to contain the virus dabbing say that indeed we have around 4300 new infections daily geminis see if as ok especially if you compare it to neighboring counties france for example can only dream about those numbers weighs more than 23000 cases that daily owed to Czech Republic for example pick out a more done 10000 cases they really over the weekend. For me just ask you you see germans are struggling to get a clear message out to the people what about there in the u. K. Are the british people are they getting a clear message from their leaders. Well thats a difficult question to answer the information is that very often people dont understand it and i can really relate to that position in germany where youve got different parts of the u. K. Having different regulations and people getting a bit confused between the 2 you know someone on one side of a river might have one set of regulations and someone on the other side might have a different set of regulations and as well as not because the changing all the time is difficult to follow so i think i think most people have worked out the new regulations for the way it was whats going to be happening in wales now and we roughly know whats happening in the u. K. Now with the different tiers that is 12 and 3 so people do roughly know where they are but if you actually did a survey of the average person in the street it probably wouldnt dare to tell you the regulations in great detail but i think the messages are getting through the key messages like the how the hand hygiene the social distancing the mask wearing the limiting contact between households those messages are getting through this emotion better understanding of the principles of the pandemic the principles of Infection Control although the rules are so specific that people do get a bit confused with them certainly and of course the hope remains for a vaccine next year dr John Campbell in the u. K. Tonight and my colleague shots here in berlin to both of you thank you. And for. A while most of the world continues to struggle with the economic fallout of the coronavirus pandemic chinas latest quarterly figures appear to show the country is on an economic rebound government figures show that Economic Growth in the 3rd quarter was up 4. 9 percent compared to the same time last year Global Demand for masks and other medical supplies boosted factory output and retail spending is now back get this now to pre virus levels unbelievable with beijing saying it has the disease under control the recovery in the worlds 2nd biggest economy already seems well underway while this bring in jeremy gogu hes the editor and chief of the u. S. Based china focused news but form such china he joins us tonight from nashville tennessee its good to see you again jeremy i mean its impressive stuff that were getting from china right now reporting nearly 5 percent growth despite the pandemic doesnt that vindicate beijings clear policy tough lockdowns last spring that the rest of the world looked at in horror. In many ways it does i think one should say that you shouldnt believe any numbers coming out of beijing we dont know if it really is 5 percent the Chinese Government the Chinese Communist party have many ways of manipulation the fake us nonetheless it is very clear that things are getting back to normal at least domestically there was an enormous travel season of the national day october 1 solar day people are spending that kind assuming they are hanging out together in large groups without wearing face masks and the economies of this bouncing back because they took a science based approach to handling this and then. A science based approach isnt that part of the lesson to be learned here the clear line forward by beijing but also by taiwan and south korea it works. It does work out and i do think its important to point out that this isnt. A proof that enough thorough terror and government is better at handling this because as you said south korea taiwan and i would also include new zealand countries that have bounced back remarkably from this and obviously the Global Markets you know tourism and exports may not be back to where they were pretend demick domestically these countries have managed to start growing again so i think this is a vindication event occasion of science based approach to approaching this demick and this has to be a bitter lesson for people there in the u. S. Where you are because what china is showing the world is that your economy can recover quickly but 1st you have to get the virus under control you do indeed and im not sure if this is going out on on on radio video and you can see that like desperation in my eye but there is a real problem in the United States where pretty much half the country doesnt seem interested in the science based approach to it. And so i think its going to recovery is going to take much longer time and china for all its problems and im a chronicle of them you know im not somebody whos a boost of the Chinese Communist party but for all its problems it has had a science based approach to this disease and how to deal with it yeah and i mean we also have to say we dont want to sound like apologist for the regime or the government in beijing the truth is we cannot trust the numbers that do come out of beijing they china has a history of fudging statistics right. Absolutely you know i dont think you can trust any number that comes out of beijing but. Its not like there there is an out of control condemning of the 19 in china right now and i speak to people in china every day multiple many many people all over the country and you know if the government says 100000 people die die and i tend to believe you know 300000 people died if they say the g. D. P. He has grown by 5 percent i tend to believe its gone by one percent. Nonetheless. I have enough anecdotal evidence in my personal contacts and i spend you know at least 8 to 10 hours a day talking to people in china and interacting with them that there is enough normalcy going on that the economy can in fact good people ah going to the movies that going to restaurants they are you know getting tourism in large numbers so yeah the numbers that the communist party is giving off may be off but theres no question that the economy has recovered to a much greater extent than we have say for example in United States yeah yeah we in the west we look there with envy especially when you say the word normal think we would love to have a return to that jeremy gold corn joining us tonight from nashville tennessee jeremy we appreciate your time your insights thank you. Thank you very much its well the day is almost done the conversation continues online youll find us on twitter either d w new should follow me at work golf t. V. 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