Across europe growing infection rates fresh lockdown measures and the inevitable health and Economic Hardship to follow is the headache for which there are no easy fixes. Well germany is also considering additional measures to rein in rising infection rates or storage is reported more than 5000. 00 new coronavirus cases in the last 24 hours the highest one day total since been able to answer im going to the heads of the countries federal states are meeting in berlin as we speak with announcement expected this evening new cases have been rising steadily since the end of summer some regions already imposed new restrictions and testing requirements for people in high risk areas. Well lets go straight to d. W. Political correspondent kate brady welcome kate can the chancellor get 16 state leaders to line up behind one set of proposals. Well it certainly is going to be a difficult task in the longer that those 16 state premiers and chancellor Angela Merkel stay behind closed doors this evening certainly gives us a bit more of an idea about exactly how difficult it is right now to get some more cohesion and more cooperation when it comes to nationwide measures in germany we have been having some reports trickling out over the course of the evening so far as rumors flying around now that perhaps there might soon be a breakthrough when it comes to the implementation of a curfew for bars and restaurants across germany something that some cities including here in berlin have already implemented and so were expecting to hear more as the evening goes on but this is by no means an easy task to get the 16 state premiers to decide on measures together or doesnt germany hov are unified approach. Well germany has 16 states as part of its federal system and logically speaking so far during the pandemic each individual state has been able to react accordingly depending on the number of new cases being reported there and even more locally than that within tiny districts as well theres been even more localized action taken but as you were saying the numbers here in germany the numbers of new daily coronavirus cases are increasing steadily so there is concern now that its going to be harder to contain the virus especially as what were seeing is no longer the cluster infections that were previously seen in for example a slaughterhouse where it was quite easy to shut down a small area what were seeing is is wider spread outbreaks now so given about why this spread how far do you think germany is from a national law. Well what we have to remember is that germany never really had a true lockdown not when you compare it to neighboring countries like france so it was never quite as strict but certainly a shutdown or increase tighten measures on Opening Times and where and when people can travel is certainly not off the cards but what merkel is certainly trying to do today in her efforts to try and get these 16 state premiers to unite is to avoid that of course germany seeing what is going on in neighboring countries around europe right now and in the u. K. As well where the numbers of new daily cases a simply through the roof and in friends as well and germany wants to avoid getting to that point as relatively speaking germany has had quite a successful. At the time at least in the in the last few months in dealing with the 1000 pound demick and certainly they dont want to see the pandemic spiral out of control but those numbers are rising and now certainly is the time to act and thats exactly what merkel is trying to get their state premiers to do this evening. Thank you i will take a look now at some of the other stories making news around the world german sometimes a warning that the countrys economy is likely to be harder by the coronavirus pandemic the previously thought but now forecasting it will shrink by 5. 4 percent to 2021 percentage point. One percent or one percentage or greater than previous projections. In a landmark ruling a greek quarter 100 long prison sentences to the leaders of Neo Nazi Group golden dawn the groups leader nick costa mccully acoss and several other members were sentenced for running a criminal gang the former Political Party has been linked to a number of violent hate crimes. Heavy rain and flooding has killed at least 15 people in Southern India these images are from the city of hydrabad where police say 25 centimeters of rain fell in one day authorities have been using boats to evacuate residents for low lying parts of the city. To russians and americans have successfully reached the International Space station the fast track flight took just 3 hours off the usual time its not as last mission on a russian spacecraft u. S. Now has its own access with iran musks space x. Corporation. A major Anti Government rally in thailand has been met with counter demonstrations from supporters of the moloch a prodemocracy protesters are calling for reform of the constitution and the marquis in thailand criticism of the kings traditionally seen as to boo and punishable by law despite this the protests have been gaining momentum over the past few months. Scaling bangkoks democracy monument a symbolic move for protesters demonstrating against what they view as a dictatorial regime thailand is led by a former military coup leader who became Prime Minister in an election widely seen as skewed in the militarys favor demonstrators are calling for new elections reforms of the monarchy and a more democratic constitution. We want the democracy monument to be a place of meaning again. For our fight and to show that democracy is what we all truly want. Its not a violent protest nor does it cause harm to anyone weve come here peacefully. Earlier scuffles broke out between protesters and supporters of the monarchy thailands royal family is backed by the military and still enjoys support from many but the king is less popular than his father who died in 2016. On tuesday during commemorations of the death of the former monarch the kings motorcade was met with chance and the 3 finger salute that gesture has become a prodemocracy symbol borrowed from the hunger games film series about a dystopian totalitarian regime. Demanding a reform of the monarchy would have been unheard of just a few years ago but many now question the kings extravagant lifestyle he has been absent for most of the coronavirus crisis. Spending months in a gym an outline retreat with an entourage of 20 women criticizing the royals has been off limits in thailand due to harsh to from ation loss now a new generation of young protesters breaking down to boot. Israel in lebanon have begun talks on suffering a long running dispute over their maritime border the 2 sides held a brief meeting on wednesday described by lebanons chief negotiator as the 1st step on a 1000 mile journey the 2 sides are still technically at war but its hoped the negotiations will clear the way for Gas Exploration. The Mediterranean Sea off the coast between israel and lebanon these are contested waters both countries have long been locked in dispute over where the maritime border lies behind the scenes negotiations have gone on for several years now israel and lebanon have agreed on a framework to hold indirect talks back by the u. S. To settle the issue. That. The United States intend to put all of its effort with the 2 concerned parties to have create a positive and constructive atmosphere between them to preserve the talks and end them successfully as soon as possible. One of our. Model. In the past decade israel has been exploring its own offshore gas fears south of the disputed area. The dispute is about a relatively small triangle shaped area with each side claiming their part as exclusive economic zone. The last full scale conflict between israel and lebanon was in 2006 but there have been many incidents since between israel and the new guineas shiite militant Group Hezbollah parts of the countrys border the blue line is also disputed im standing here the Hassani Cross crossing which is most of the time closed its along the blue line a line that was denmark itd by the un in the year 2000 after the israeli withdrawal technically both countries lebanon and israel are still at war and they have no diplomatic relations the talks are highly sensitive neither country sees resolving the maritime border as a step towards a wider peace agreement. Israel realistically doesnt look at it as a peace talk although those. Potential for discussing security arrangements and the lebanese are very busy denying that it does anything anything to do with normalization or peacemaking its all business though they say an agreement on the maritime border could pave the way to more Gas Exploration a potential economic benefit for both countries. And winning the nobel prize is usually cause for celebration but this years joined winner of the economics prize for milgram was fast asleep when he was contacted by the Royal Swedish Academy of sciences fellow with Robert Wilson who lives just up the road to run down a ring hes told bell and wake him up to deliver the news. Paul. If its not worse you know you won the nobel you won the nobel prize and so theyre trying to reach you but they cannot they dont seem to have a number for you we gave them your cell phone number yeah wow. Yeah ok. Well yeah well you answer your phone. Up next here on the day deb there is a special edition on the corona crisis that weve got to get all the latest news and information around the clock on our web site the top to talk of the bath at the top. Of the. Combating the corona pandemic. Where does research stand. What are scientists learning. Background information and news. Hour carona update. 19 special and next on d w. It was the 1st International Tribunal in. The trials. 75 years ago a high ranking officers of the nazi regime were indicted by the allied forces. They were the 1st war criminals to be held accountable for their crimes. Our 2 part series. In the dark starts nov 12th on d w. A double epidemic is coming as covert cases rise and influenza wave is heading to the Northern Hemisphere what if you get both at the same time. The corona virus is already New Territory its combination with influenza equally unknown. Winter will be a challenge. And the big problem were facing is that cove it can look a lot like flu but thats going to create a lot of problems for our hospitals and so one of the most important things we can do is to read flu in our community and where the most important. We have is the flu vaccine whether it impacts the behavior of the coronavirus is another thing but a flu vaccination could narrow the diagnostic options when flu like symptoms occur. Doctors say its more important than ever to get your flu shot this year facebook has launched a Vaccine Information campaign its also banning ads that discourage people from getting the jap as they reportedly only found out demand is surging experts say this could be a test run for an eventual corona virus vaccine. A little pinprick that protects against the flu and helps make sure the Health System wont be overwhelmed doctors are worried about a widespread flu outbreak alongside a new wave of covert 19. The demand for flu vaccinations is higher this year than usual and people are a bit alarmed and scared and that means that they are much more willing to get vaccinated. A flu jab is usually recommended for those over 60 pregnant women people with preexisting conditions and medical workers but this year vaccination is available to everyone who wants one. German Health Minister says anyone who wants to have themselves and their children vaccinated should and can do so but if everyone in germany decides to get a flu jab there wont be enough of the vaccine to go around. If we just vaccinate anyone who wants the done its quite possible that the people who really needed may not be able to get a vaccine at all in the end would be ethically and medically wrong. To avoid that outcome the Vaccination Commission recommends that high risk patients be vaccinated 1st then the rest of the population germany has never used up all the available vaccines nevertheless this year the flu vaccination will serve as a test run for an eventual corona vaccination we can learn how a covert 1000. 00 vaccination. It might work from how influenza vaccinations go this year will probably vaccinate the same risk groups 1st will have much less of the vaccine at 1st compared to the influenza vaccine so well probably have to vaccinate gradually starting with those who need it most in this respect you can see the flu vaccine as a kind of test for the population boom for you before coming out to come out of seeing this state and the medical profession are hoping to learn valuable lessons from this years flu season and how to prioritize future vaccinations. Nucular better siddle joins us from his National Institute for Infectious Diseases in rome nicholas i got my flu shot last week was that a good idea that well somebody very good idea i did the same just 10 days ago and was also vaccinated against there are no cocoa infections this is a very very well they do it because you have decreased. The number of flu cases. Firstly because you always its. The infection that should be prevented before in scotland patients secondly because we have 12 are fresh during the winter season or in the asking for. Me to. Tell me this there are studies that show that it could actually protect me against the corona virus is is that can you substantiate that. There is no evidence that. The vaccine nationally against flu can protect them against south cyclone alive still that different viruses and they belong to different families they snowie interactions between the 2 viruses and the Facts National against flu does not. 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If we use proper masks wash our hands and and we have a physical distance if we can avoid bought fuel and. The the fact that in new zealand the number of cases of flu is so dramatically decreasing can be the due to the debt up to their underestimate the people who gave it measures for whats the Research Reveal on geographical differences on the spread and sabera here of the flu and covert. The bulk flu when. The same way it is there is already there is get all the way to the outlets and the contact oa cobbett. Bashan can just meet the infection dual to one coat passion to 2. 00 persons on average whereas at the us the c. B. D. For flu is low at around the one a 1. 00 and case fatality rate is around 5 percent up to 1520 percent they know people older than 80 or so for coffee whereas. For flu and the more case fatality rate that is slower than one percent and this is the big difference between the p. C. C. In terms of epidemiology you know patricio thank you very much for joining us today a brief look at some of the coronavirus stories making news. Another setback for hopes of a vaccine anytime soon johnson and johnsons Clinical Trial of its coated 19 vaccine is on hold after a volunteer came down with an unexplained illness. Nearly has also posed a Clinical Trial of an antibody treatment. To Taiwanese Companies have designed a covert rapid test using electronic chips a coating on the biosensor a tracks and binds with the are in a of the virus in the flow of electrons through the semiconductor changes showing a negative or positive result in a few minutes and researchers in japan have used a supercomputer to show how humidity affects the dispersion of corona virus particles the findings suggest contagion risks are high in dry indoor conditions in winter they say unifies could help limit infections when window ventilation is not possible. Of to our science correspondent now Derek Williams for another book shelf installment of his q. And a the usa its. How do you make a vaccine for something that mutates. I get asked this a lot to answer we have to look at the process of evolution not just like with living organisms the genetic code that governs how a virus is made changes from generation to generation sometimes in small ways sometimes in big ones the progeny if they survive eventually will become separate strains that are distinct from their common ancestor their genetic code has changed and and that can change how they look at their structure and also how they interact with potential hosts for example whether they can cause more or less severe illness whats key to creating a vaccine is the speed at which these changes occur in viruses like the ones that cause influenza for example which have genomes that are less stable or the rate of change is so rapid and random that we need a new vaccine to fight them every year we have to play catch up with flu bugs all the time fortunately due to the way that sars 2 makes copies of itself its genome remains relatively stable as far as we can tell a worldwide there isnt a lot of genetic variation yet among all the Novel Coronavirus is circulating in different parts of the planet and because those groups are so homogeneous theoretically a vaccine that can prevent one should be able to prevent them all whats interesting and kind of scare. Is that is that when we start to prevent infections with a vaccine will also start forcing sars cove to change in ways that will allow it to get around the vaccine but but thats a different question. Finally the pandemic is being let down full life music lovers many concert holes remain closed to prevent the spread of the virus. So young members of the new York Philharmonic camp decided to take their music to the public and now staging performances on the citys streets and in pots the setting is a hot cry from there for them on its usual venue and it gives the musicians a sense of purpose and is likely to attract you in fact and also. Good to have you along for another about specials and see you tomorrow. Why are people forced to hide in trucks. Mother. Teresa such claim there are many cancers placed cynthia and there are many stories. Of the break up your. Mother. Played. Made for mines. Tax cuts. 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