Flying. Thomas said us and his art works explore the pressing issues of our times reflecting on how we can live more sustainable lives and use our resources more sparingly hes also interested in alternative means of travel and how art can inspire us to think outside the box. A little bit. I mean. When you go out you have a thank you. Thank you thank you. The argentinian performance and installation artist. Its an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with Scientific Research institutions like when he launched this experiment in bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. This is sad to say knows beilin studio where he plans and prepare as his many projects. Etc center has always been fascinated by the interplay between arts and science he studied art and architecture in argentina and then attended frankfurts. Art school on a scholarship he also took part in a nasa research project. Has become an internationally sought after artist in part because his work ponders some of the most urgent questions we face today such as how can we shape our future and how much responsibility do we carry fox you can make a mess of this is for me who is to say no you might as well ask me about the some of the different parts what makes someone the course and they are or you but i want to know if i have the feeling we as humans tend to see ourselves as extraordinary as somehow superior to other species. But in reality we struggle to forge Real Relationships with other species or does it not Real Relationships founded on solidarity are essential to our progress this is from. Santa center began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. That year he showcased his cloud cities project at butlins hamburger bahnhof gallery this project like so many others question the way we live as a society and in visions new forms of human coexistence and community. His beilin show featured a net. Work of cloud like that visitors could climb into. What would it be night to inhabit such a Floating City to live and what was there. What matters to sara sena is that we realize that everything is interconnected that way just parts of a greater whole. Simply does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility when we do you work more grow will compass all of the inside of a lot of those who are i think responsibility can mean confronting certain problems and tonight exceptions here today we face pressing issues like Global Warming and then the quality i want to lend i mean dont know when they see were lucky and but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet or on one of them in sort of the tail of it but its ok i dont think it is enough to see individual answers to these issues. And neither allows follow that we need global all encompassing answers we have just as he moved thats why i am always looking to forge new alliances adopt new perspectives and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately needs you know where you want to come your career india clinton as a couple. In order him 2018 center said no showcased his own ad installation at pariss i laid to tokyo contemporary art when you get focused on the importance of and how we as a species live taking this vital element. Satta center set up 76 spider webs to make the air more tangible as it were spiders have inhabited the earth for hundreds of millions of years and seems air to spin their intricate web. By their webs were a starting point i. Have been fascinated by them for a very long time theyre connected to the spiders they are a part of their body who not only a normal rider an only since a small body is near because of the vibrations it sends through the well. Without the well but it could neither feel nor see its prey. Most spiders that make webs are blind so by creating a web they are essentially creating their own sensory ability. Allowing them to feel the world and other species around them. The installation translated the vibrations of spike his movements into o. D. S. Signals creating a kind of a rock made symphony. d tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds the more people pass through this room the more the particles swirl around this find has registered these movements and sounds creating a form of interaction between them and the visitors. And. It started with my obsession with spider webs so we set out making all kinds of a mocking color. That technically also invented a machine together with the Technical University of darmstadt they brought my idea to life if you like basically bashing uses laser signals to weave intricate web and so the unicorn really the last move complete because. I think they want to i mean if we were that got many academics interested and difficult but until then i said nobody had managed to create such a detailed map of spider webs and this is really my team and so i got by did by the Massachusetts Institute of technology and Max Planck Institute together to study spider webs and their surroundings to to better understand these creatures that they that i knew then that im innocent and you know. d there were whole going to just let along with spiders and spider webs and recently as they played an important moment in his office all of us what exactly fascinated him about them and when did this fascination start or tickle me so i thought oh how to him what well i always say you work with spiders i always say no spiders work with me because theyve been here for more than 200000000 years so we can only learn from them not the other way around my work is almost anthropological an attempt to reconstruct todays image of what it means to be human in this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants im trying to redefine our relationship to those with whom we share the planet. Together with natural scientists sarah said now has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spiders and that behavior. You know look at me and soon as it makes us a little you can do what strikes me at my studio is that many people still suffer from a rock and a phobia a terrible fear of spiders i mean literally or sap. Indicated when people visit the studio and realize that its largely a populated by spiders and spider webs many of them grow uncomfortable these called for. And weve been doing so if we kept puppies or kittens here people would say oh what a pretty kitty they dont usually do that when they see spiders. Yet spiders are very different or less you must aim not only to differentiate between the various species but to see what unites us and what separates them from one another to discover the Co Relationships and synergies between species think about is when you come into a spider nets have a special symbolism because you see all these connections these threads which go from one side to the other and if they go to so if you ask me what fascinates me most about spiders its the special beauty of their webs you know youre somewhere. In his installations which take up entire have rooms santa sent it to nearly plays with the patterns and shakes found in his mind his website. Visits his can even enter into a huge web and experience the world from a spy does to spectate were. An open open saturday with many of my works because im not thinking about the speculators im also not thinking about the outside world which makes us feel foreign or different though who can with these words im trying to create something all encompassing. Thats why i like to work with really Large Services and if you move around on one side of this web the people on the other side move to when i move around i cause vibrations which influence the space that i need them in and the spiders respond. Maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another when my work is about creating these kinds of connections and. Its not just about seeing whats around us whos and. Im interested in interactions it isnt with him on a variety of levels and with different groups of people who know. What can we learn about ourselves from working with other species and does this change the way we deal with one another. Sarah senator doesnt tame to definitively ohmss such questions rather he uses his arts to get people thinking. And his work algorithms visitors and to an Interactive Network they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and others. Seem quaint he employs many different disciplines in his art of astrophysics or engineering biology he even explores musical composition with the help of spiders so why is this kind of into disciplinary work so important to have reporters on the board on the product do you think that connects you on basically not one of these there. Because it keeps opening up new worlds when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective youre missing out on all the other perspective the other ways of sensing reality or thinking about it it seems to me that these days we often forget about these other realities. To prompt people to change their perspective and encourage dialogue sort of said always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and experts from a variety of disciplines. He wants us to be open to gateways a Broad Spectrum of finding is. One thats captured santa send his imagination is humans long held fascination with flying. In our time the dream of life has turned into a nightmare thats due to the way we fly at the top of the earth flying is a total disaster because were reliant on fossil fuels on lithium on batteries or other kinds of Raw Materials expect to meet their extraction endangers the survival of many species. For we need to find new ways of making the notion of flying a possible dream again when. They were in a commune opposing this when you know. 3 years santa center has been experimenting with flying arrows solaced sculpture at such a variety of locations around the globe these free floating sculptures lifted only by the song and carried only by the wind and the mabel flights with al the consumption of fossil fuel a radical concept. This is how to mass that i say no started to become interested in the possibilities of a new. One he calls ever seen the aerial era. And i think the term that best describes the era were living in now is the capitalist i dont see the age of rampant capitalism. The era seen as an epoch of hope and age which is radically different from the capitalist scene. I think im into the thing that. Capito say no it does everything that changes our habits but not the climate helps to usher in a new era removing one we call the era seen. An aerial age and the era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another and of the environment and Work Together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this. Thomas said i say knows era seen projects requires a radical rethink on our part to enduring Natural Resources rising emissions Climate Change and the extinction of many species are destroying the very basis of our life on us. Air is seen places as not human beings at the center of. Protecting not polluting the element that keeps us alive is its main goal a way of making amends to mother earth while that may sound like a utopian ideal saddest i know and his team have already proven that some of their ideas work in the real world. In argentina the era Seen Foundation team has already set several World Records among them the 1st manned fully solar free flight with a heart tabulating it reached a height of 272 meters covered 1. 7 kilometers and was airborne for over an hour. The teams next goal is to be able to transport several people at once powered only by the suns ultraviolet rays and fulfilling the dream of emissions free travel. Conversely wonder if it will do when these sculptures rise up please the 1st thing people say is measure how can that be its mesmerizing and a magical moment. But suddenly the sculpture turns and theres something on it that was written by another person who has it is for me its like an onion the more layers you peel away. The more questions arise as to how these things appear to. Risk he said. Weve just got back from argentina and we were working a lot with indigenous communities there before they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment and. That there is lithium mining going on in their territory in. Argentina chile and bolivia board of the area where this socalled white gold is being mined he said and for every ton of lithium we know that 2000000 liters of water are required and there are 71 kilos of lithium and one tesla this is an area already plagued by drought. If we start to excavate lithium to satisfy the consumerism of todays capitalist Society Everyone who lives on the edge of the the salt flats will die. Along with the animals and the vegetation there and the communities who live there will be forced to leave. School is in pain or thats why we are asking how can we change our habits so that it doesnt lead to Climate Change. What kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium. And. We cant wait for everyone to agree air travel will have to be very different in the future. I think you need. The saddest and most project has become a Global Movement on tests scientists designers and activists have joined the ara Scene Foundation that he sets up. A community. Its one that comes together and engage is in regular dialogue. Moment of truth i like the thought of a community that works like a collective and. Thats why we have established 2 foundations. One of them is called arachno filio. They like arachnophobia its members are friends to spiders and their webs it is a Nonprofit Organization that is working to save certain ecosystem and the kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio to. Do this community is researching how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms. Is a 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio is called aero seem to consist of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people outside who are pursuing it as a hobby there are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not just by changing individual mobility led by founding a movement for change. And the Arab Community have developed an explorer collaboration with mit and the red cross it enables anyone to build a floating explorer sculpture and calculate its flight path and flight generation via east Source Software each flight gathers data about air quality Temperature Humidity and pressure which is fed back into the software giving us more a more information about our planet and what set ascent oh calls its highways in the sky like the jet stream for instance. They are seen as an open invitation to everyone who is fighting for a future free fossil fuel and dreaming of a new kind of boundless borderless may be. Set. Center slogan is from home and set the. Time. For me art always means an art dialogue or an exchange. That for example the art involving the spiders and spiders web. We have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world. In the categories that exists today tend to separate us from one another rather than to unite us. It seems to me that art can help us in this process of what we can do art has this ability this generosity or this innocence is that they are producing those in art you continue to search with childlike innocence and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world with other raw. Data center is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the wild he said that he can better understand our planet and of course most. All of. Those. Projects and Event Horizon has taken him to the new unis salt flats in bolivia the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. Is going to. Be good in the early hours of the morning a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats and for just a few moments the horizon looks as if it has been ever a. The surface of the earth forms a giant mirror of the universe that surrounds us d its a fascinating meditative phenomena and. You can even see reflections of light emitted by the large magnetic cloud and neighboring universe 163000 light years away. If were short of reflection about the future is of central significance. What plans does he have for his own future. One of the employees when you. Were going to do a course in the 104 when he was my plans for the future are to continue working as we have done recently and they found that the same time to increasingly question the logistics of the art industry the transport of artwork and my own mobility christians who are for and to consider alternative ways for us artists to be present or if if we become conscious of our planet and its atmosphere then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board the Co Passengers in our world that we need to consider how we can continue this journey together to see if we. Must set a center as well. Hes opening our eyes to whats going on yeah unfound. Its also an invitation to engage with questions about feature. P f n 1000 can i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who we provinces will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people. 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