Joined victims families at the 911 memorial in new york city. In shanksville pennsylvania where one of the hijacked planes crashed. Hundreds of refugees on the greek island of lesbos have staged a protest demanding to leave this follows a massive fire and choose day that destroyed the morea migrant camp leaving more than 12000 people homeless the greek government has been scrambling to build new accommodation. This is from berlin follow us on twitter and instagram. Or visit our website. Thousands of people being held in greece is squalid morea migrant camp and now find that desperate situation is even worse after fires destroyed the camp this week those fires have also rig night at the debate that has plagued a you for 5 years what to do about them and the thousands of migrants being held elsewhere and the others who are still risking their lives to come to europe im phil gale in berlin and this is the day. To call the shots on how you look at me without immigration was. Done conquered and. I dont care. Thing is certain to be European Solidarity which must be proved in practice and. Beyond. Beyond you know not. My since as you call for peace i have been fighting to finally get to the few asylum policy teaches us to push to the issue. 0. 03. For migration. On the ferry to the. Polls on the day a russians vote invasion all elections on sunday but can anyone believe that amir putins United Russia Party opposition politicians are going to boycott thinks he can turn the tables and not know for c. B. S. United russia has a majority if we can break the majority. Of an example for the rest of the country if you consolidate forces and go to the ballot box you can change the situation and destroy their monopoly. To begin today with a story of desperate people from distant countries whose lives became even worse this week woman due to give birth any day and a 3 week old baby are among the thousands of people left homeless by the fire of the marianna migrant camp on the greek island of last boss greece has provided a ferry to have some of the refugees and more on the way and the e. U. Governments are once again wrestling with how to provide shelter for the 12000. 00 migrants but also with finding a sustainable and coherent migration policy. The 3rd night in the open in the parking lot of a supermarket people who thought they had nothing left to lose have lost what little remained. Some of the injuries sustained in trying to rescue their meager possessions from the flames and now autumn is coming and the nights are getting colder. That it was that nothing that was there. Was sad that was not like it was. As bad as conditions were inside the cramped refugee compound the situation for the 13000 former residents of moria is now even worse. This cannot be all in this one lake we cannot be sleeping peacefully as like this. 400 miners have been evacuated to the mainland. Some of them may find a new home in germany. Has missed that the same time i asked the greek Prime Minister how we can help and if so and his request is that we in particular take the miners and who have now been brought to the greek mainland that we have contacted france and we will Work Together on this i hope that some other east states will do this also for. The passenger ferry has been pressed into service says temporary accommodation while the United Nations rushes tents and sleeping bags to the island. Where european governments are preparing to take in 400 unaccompanied youngsters from the marri of refugee camp german interior minister jose office said most of them would be coming to germany and france but hes also calling for a more permanent solution. It myself as you call faces i have been fighting to finally get a common european asylum policy. Becoming one conduct of could look for i can see often enough that migration is a global issue of enormous importance and one that you will be accompanying us for many years to come. The on yari shift you can get the e. U. Commission assures me in a Video Conference just before the fire that it would present this common solution on september 30th young guys extensive can but these humans on the loose wrong for leaving. Lets explore this with can ousters a cofounder of the European Stability Initiative think tank is an expert of migration hes also architects have been a huge refugee deal with turkey which was signed in march 26th to welcome back to d. W. Lets start with where the e. U. Is a migrant policy yet another call we have today for the e. U. To develop a coherent asylum policy Member States have been arguing about this for 5 years what what is the hold up. Well look at this very concrete problem here we have 12000 people on one greek island lesbos and the big question is why are we keeping them on the island. Until 6 months ago we had the un turkey had an agreement and the idea was people arrive you assess whether they need protection in europe and if they dont need Protection Europe their return to turkey if they do need protection they have moved off the island to the mainland but the trouble is that since 6 months we have no agreement of turkey turkey is not taking anyone back to e. U. Is not greece are not negotiating with turkey so these people are actually now on the island of arrived end of 2001000 they are stuck there its not clear how much longer we want to keep them and i answer to the question of why they are there that suggests itself is that they are terrorists pawns in a game of deterrence simply to show how bad things are and europe ok so again we heard one of the European Commission is this say well now it is time for us to do something has anything changed to make a new migration an asylum policy more likely to be agreed now if you ask the Member States what to do about these people some think you should keep them on the island some of said even taken i was just in vienna discussing this with the austrian chancellor and they all string government says even taking 100 children from the island would be very bad signal because then more people would come so the logic is keep them there others think this is has been the opinion in germany that its unacceptable to treat people this way so you need to find a way to bring them off the island those who need protection and share them in europe now between these 2 positions the you can find a compromise i suppose a compromise would be looking for a unanimous agreement we suppose the compromise is we have a coalition of the willing countries who are willing to take these people and move from the that is true and i think most people in germany have accepted this logic as well but one member needs to be part of the coalition of the willing and that is greece. And the message we got from greece is that it seems greece prefers to keep people on the island in there rather than calling on the european i mean if greece would not if the greek government would not turns of the europeans and say listen help us re locates 1520000 people then we can quickly move to people from the islands to the mainland we cant easily these are not large numbers we can easily house. 20000 people its been done before and if European Countries like germany with a spin off in palm and from a c. D. O. Parliamentarians calling for taking 5000 if others take a few 1000 this well. But greece needs to ask for it and why dont we hear this from greece because ministers in athens i fraid that if you solve the humanitarian problem on the island since there is no talk of turkey then more people will come and greece will be the government will be blamed so we need to both immediately solve this problem these people are out of the street debt debt situation will only get worse there is a lot of tension on lesbos theres a lot of resistance in the local community i did want to talk about that because a as you say theres resistance from the local community they dont want the morea come rebuild they dont want. The migrants there at all so should brussels and athens rebuild this despite local wishes well 1st of all i dont think this will happen weve seen this and ive been on these islands many times theyll be roadblocks still be violence already there have been attacks in february in lesbos on aid groups a lot of internationals attacking whom this is being read radical local local people unless of course they have seen their deaths be theres a sense of frustration on less boss and on the other greek islands because they feel rightly that the problem of greece and europe has been outsourced to them dont own them yes and when they ask this is get back to the beginning when the mayor of lesbos or the people of lesbos ask how long do you want to keep these people here at the moment they dont get an answer just do in the last minute lets lets talk about that the german chancellor Angela Merkel has has been a sort of beacon in all of this when she threw open germanys doors in 2050 shes not standing for reelection next year when she goes do you think that germany sort of open door policy and its leadership on this issue will go with. Shes done an amazing job for those who arrived in germany but on europes external border which is also germanys external border what we see at the moment is a complete state of lawlessness every european law every convention the Refugee Convention a Human Rights Convention is they leave being broken we are violating our own laws and standards in order to deter people with the message that its better to stay in tech 11 on afghanistan than come to europe and that is devastating because that means that a rich comes in and sends a message that even small numbers of migrants. Are pushing us to give up on our core values so if medical goes the next stage you expect that to get worse well a i expect this to get worse very quickly in the next days in the next weeks so but i think that there is a solution and the challenge now for the germans is to drop the illusion that there will be a european solution to talk directly to the greeks very realistically what is it that we need to reassure the greeks about because they have their eat faced with turkey they are very to turkey might put pressure on them what do they need so that they can cooperate with other europeans to solve a solvable problem for macros legacy this will be crucial she did an enormous positive job in germany for those arrived they were treated with dignity but ed europes external border at the moment we are not treating people with dignity and the Refugee Convention will be 70 years old next year and it will be drowning in the aegean as we speak at this moment thank you for that very interesting very sobering what comes from the European Stability Initiative thank. Opposition activists in russia say they faced increasing interpretation ahead of the weekends Regional Elections this week police in moscow raided the office of the open russia Opposition Group and an intruder smashed a bottle containing a chemical substance in the siberian office of the opposition candidates so a boy come to Office Volunteers had to be taken to hospital was the boycott was an ally of an x. In the valley the kremlin critic who germany says was poisoned with a nerve agent before the attack on his office did the blues and the show and caught up with came to hear about his campaign and his hope that this election would shake up the status quo. Yes at the moment sergey boyko prides himself on being alive and edited social media is the main way the politician is reaching out to voters in novosibirsk hes up for a seat in the siberian citys parliament on his you tube channel the politician promises to clean up his hometown and sweep out corrupt politicians and we have a mafia here boyko is leading a coalition of 31. 00 opposition candidates their goal is to push united russia the ruling party out together boyko says the kremlin is watching the Regional Election campaign closely. Of course and they are afraid united russia has a thin majority here if we can break the majority of us and there is can been example for the rest of the country if you consolidate forces and go to the ballot box you can change the situation and destroy their monopoly. Point goes Campaign Recently got a boost when he appeared alongside his close ally opposition politician i like saying. You know video that has gotten millions of views not nice team expose the alleged corruption schemes they say helped united russia politicians in the get rich and buy Luxury Properties now he was poisoned shortly after filming this video he uses it to call on russians to support the candidate most likely to be united russia in the poll a strategy he calls smart voting but we can use russias the 3rd the biggest city as an example of how to take down the insatiable told that these united russia. Novosibirsk is siberias main Industrial Hub more than one and a half 1000000 people live here. United russia current li has the majority in the city council and the Regional Assembly and their campaigning to keep it that way. Regional united russia is the party of the president of the government the party of respect. And can we work in the interest of the citizens of the russian federation. But not everyone in the city feels cared for by the russian government. People live in fear of what the future its not clear who shops could. Be fired. The situation is a far cry from how things were in the ninetys and early 2000 i think a lot of things are goodnow isnt. We pay taxes like good citizens but who knows where those taxes go. Wants to drive the city in a new direction he hopes that if his Coalition Wins a majority they can turn novosibirsk into a city for its people. People from united russia are not interested in developing the city or talking to voters instead of running the place they are just defending their own personal interests i believe that despite the extreme weather here and the fact that it isnt of the richest planes in the us a bit can be a modern european city. Says the main challenge is to convince people their decision in the polling station can break through the status quo and that smart voting against the ruling party here can set an example for change across russia. For the c. E. O. Of mining giant rio tinto has to public pressure resigned because of the companys destruction of sacred aboriginal sites in Western Australia the. Rock shelters were long inhabited by their traditional owners the. People. Of human habitation going back 46000. He is making them some of the oldest in Australia Rio Tinto blew the caves up in may in order to expand Iron Ore Mining in the area and despite opposition from the aboriginal traditional owners the company admitted last month that it did have other options that would have avoided destroying the sites c. E. O. Sebastian shack and 2 others will step down but remain in charge until march next year when the National NativeTitle Council represents australias traditional owners of the land in state executive jamie lowe had this to say about the rio tinto resignations already it is an awkward also calling for a stony and for n. Z. Group you are there. Arent crazy. And needy aboriginal where people are one of mourning race on everyone that i talk to is not aboriginal not aboriginal. Its the aboriginal red. You know nature. Well lets explore some of the matters that are rising from this with dr Henry Skerritt hes curator of the indigenous arts of australia at the university of virginias a clue Group AboriginalArt Collection he joins us from charlottesville welcome to d. W. Lets start with a quick catch up what were the joke and gorge kerry caves and what made them so special. Thats a thats a really great question and thank you for asking still and just before i said i should say that im coming to you from the lands of the monic and people in charlottesville so you know what talking here about indigenous sites and i think that one of the parts that we need to all come to grips with is recognizing when we live in astray or america that the places that we come from have long and rich indigenous histories. In the simplest scenes the these caves was sacred sites to the point of quantity could have and been a court of people now i guess most of the viewers would think a sacred site you know Something Like a church or somewhere where a saint visited. Each much its a much deeper thing for indigenous straights indigenous australians will tell you that these sites are the visible manifestations of their ancestors that during the creation time these places were made by and sister beings who left their presence in these places and so to blow up a cave site like this is really is really to. Is really to defile a family member. And i think that one of the challenges that that is faced in a case like this is that its very easy for. So many many people in the west to dismiss that as being superstition or some kind of primitive religion but really what we see in these signs is 46000 years old more often in us religious practice and that is globally significant and whats interesting about this is whether the v. A. Invading culture if i can put it out that way that says yes we respect think the aboriginal traditional owners yes we do respect that how much real weight do they give to do the the laws of the invaders actually give to the traditional owners if i can put it out way. I think examples like these show the short fully because i think that increasingly a strains of becoming aware that the country that the country is straight has had its long inhabitation and that Indigenous People have stewarded these places for a long time but i think that understanding what that really means and empathizing with the ways in which Indigenous People relate to these places i think i think theres been a great struggle to come to terms with that my i think that this incident which is really the latest incident in in the long run of problematic mining ventures in the pilbara region i think it shows these 2 systems really coming into into into conflict and you know i thought the quote that you had before was a really feeling one that its very easy for white academics white anthropologists white Mining Company executives to to to talk about this. Talk about these matters in an intellectual sense but i think until this really the guiding bodies and Guiding Principles laid down by Indigenous People of a straight face kind of thing hes going to continue to happen and we see that its not just an australian problem we see it all over the world you say youre in the United States at the moment on. Ancient Ancestral Lands i wonder in fact looking at the aboriginal behind you is this a problem that you have had to wrestle with as you say you know your your university is on indigenous latins your digging with indigenous arts to do people wonder why you or your Aboriginal Art came from dura dr ross to get some giving back. Yes well no because you know its a look at the 2 works behind me they stuart some really by contemporary artists 2 sisters when she and john kind up with jerry and what these paintings are trying to do is very much to munich case to outsiders the significance of these places to them and i think that in a stretch it really has been that since the 1960 s. Has really helped force the government and Mining Companies to recognize indigenous sovereignty but i think that the big question coming to terms with now as as as settler societies is is that for so long the ownership and stewardship of of of these countries that we call our homes has been. Has been laid on top of indigenous societies in charlottesville for instance they have been really significant moves to address the disparities. In africanamerican communities and the long and painful slave history in charlottesville but. Beyond that is a longer history of disposition and violence towards native American People so i think that really what were looking at here you know straight with the controversy that this is it has has really a reason is is a country that is really finally having to deal with to deal with it except forgive me for interrupting but suppose a cynical person would look at it and say now weve seen with weve seen resignations and thats not a small thing its a huge company so vats happened but this is this is the white mans money that the resignations of happened those caves are still destroyed and that companys. Stock market price has still shot up so what no justice is really appears to have been done at this stage no and i think that that last point is the absolute key one that were talking about one system aboriginal law that values place and another system that values money over nothing else and provided those 2. 00 systems are banging against each other is very hard to see how they are going to be resolved good talking to us very very interesting thank you for joining us dr Henry Skerritt from the university of virginia thank you for having me. I thought was the day after the conversation continues online you can find us on twitter obscenely. Instagram as well the 2nd thing to. Have a good day. Is hydrogen driving us to the future. Farewell electric power. Could heat Hydrogen Power to the 4. Germany blast. Claret. Next on d w. 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