President. The president. But people demonstrating for civil liberties. Welcome to the program. Has been given a 2 year suspended sentence for his role in the killing of thousands of people during world war 293 years old was found guilty of being an accessory to the mother of more than 5000 prisoners at. All and he insisted he sponsored for the killings that took place to try. Of those involved in the holocaust. Thomas sparrow for more thomas whats the political significance of this verdict. There as you mentioned already one of the key elements of this verdict the fact that this is one of probably the last cases of the type that were going to see in germany bruno he was 17 at the time and thats why this took place at a youth court and one of the key elements is again his age now the fact that this is one of the last cases of the type but there are more elements that explain why this is important it has to do with a 2011 a verdict in a separate case that was seen as a precedent back then the old german prosecutors were actually focused on trying to find concrete Evidence Attached to specific crimes and back to 1011 verdict so that you could also convict people as accessory to murder and nazi crimes basically as being part of the nazi machine and this is what happened right now in this case as well theres lots more to talk about thomas but 1st lets have a quick look at who bruno di is and the crimes he has been convicted of bruno these conviction is for crimes that took place here at the foremost it off concentration camp near good danskin want is now poland its estimated that around 65000. 00 people were murdered here in a gas chamber or by shooting through disease and exhaustion. Records show bruno de was a good steward home from august 944 to april 945 used to keep watch to prevent inmates attempting to flee. Because he was just 17 years old when he started work at the trial has been held in a youth court bruno de said he was not guilty that he was too young and insignificant to disobey orders and that he was not aware of the killings. But the judges disagreed they found that he did have a role in the deaths of more than 5000 People Justice in this case has come very late and many will wonder why so few similar cases of going to trial during the 7 and a half decades since the end of the 2nd world war. Thomas perez done with us thomas why are these trials still happening so many years later and why havent we seen more of them. Has been indeed a very difficult process here in germany how the country grips with the with its past that reckoning with the past has been a difficult sometimes very painful process and one of the reasons has to do with what i mentioned already that 2011 verdict with change the way that german prosecutors dealt with these kinds of issues since then there have been a few more cases german media reporting for example that i think there are around 30 cases similar cases now under way but this just shows how difficult the process has been in germany in the last few decades but also how important it is also for the future this is not only about trying to understand the past its also about trying to send a message because its becoming more important than ever also given current developments here in germany to try understand what happened in the past and how it can be prevented in the future as well thomas prado thank you very much for that it took almost 5 days of exhausting negotiations by European Union leaders but will the 750000000000 euro coronavirus recovery package make it through the European Parliament members the start of scrutinizing the package and many of them are critical also that the package is the 1st joint Borrowing Fund ever to greed by the e. U. And consists of 390000000000 euros in grants and 360000000000 in norms members of parliament are due to vote on it in a couple of months time. I did have a marine corps top with qatar. Shes Vice President of the oregon parliament which is looking at the ball the interest of all of that was the voice of the people and would take a chance to make the better. Disparity your leaders describe to deal they struck a sorry what are the words you would use for it. Well it was a compromise and it was a compromise between leaders of Member States and so you see it as well a mixture of interests of Member States but the European Parliament is the voice of the people the only directly elected bodies so we are here to add more european perspective so its the 1st time in history you sort of rule of conditionality might be introduced you must be happy about that well i would be if it was clear how its going to announce and the interpretation of these few paragraphs is rather different and this is what worries me a lot because we need a strong conditionality between financial means and the rule of law we are seeing the rule of law deteriorating in a lot of Member States and we have to stop that viktor orban for example the hungary in Prime Minister youve been criticizing him a lot so that theres no conscious analyse did he understand something wrong thats exactly the question have there been some kind of deals behind closed doors we dont know this is why we want much clearer formula i mean what we have now is not a legal text yet we have still to see the legal text that comes out of the council and we will really focus on the rule of law there this year was very hard for us and were in an emergency situation here time is running we all know that so what power does that European Parliament have now to yourself to do your basic. I have to say yes now. Thats the pressure that everyone the Member States in the 1st place like to put on of course but also some parts of the media sometimes the population says well it has taken so long now and it has been so difficult you have to say yes but that woods would waste a chance because its not only that we have to be fast we also have to be very very good at what were doing now and i think the element has the chance to make it better. Now to some other stories making news around the world the European Unions chief negotiator says a forced briggs a trade deal between britain and the e. U. Looks unlikely. Was speaking off the latest round of talks and he said the main sticking points were fair competition guarantees and fishing rights. The 1st female Prime Minister of on has been sworn into office rose christiane. Was appointed by the countrys president in a government shake up she takes office as the corner of august and Falling Oil Prices hit the economy. New u. S. Unemployment claims have risen by 1400000 in the single week bringing the official talking to 32000000 its due to a spike in coronavirus cases and marks the 1st rise in job disclaims since march. And staying in the u. S. President donald trump is to send federal agents to several more u. S. Cities he says its to combat rising crime but federal officers operating in Portland Oregon have been targeting protesters demanding Racial Justice city Officials Say the deployment has only increased local and. For the 55th night in a row protesters flooded the streets of portland but theres a new chant being sung. The feds go home a clear message to the federal agents deployed by the Trump Administration to crackdown on demonstrators. What are you doing there pressley support controversy dressed in military gear the unidentified officers have been accused of arbitrarily arresting more than 40 protesters some like this demonstrator hauled away in unmarked vans to undisclosed locations the local governor a democrat not mincing her words this is a democracy not a dictatorship we cannot have secret police abducting people into and putting them in unmarked vehicles. I cannot believe i have to say that to the president of the United States i know that were gone eons are outraged american should be appalled but the controversy hasnt stopped President Trump announcing that more federal agents will be sent to other u. S. Cities today im announcing a surge of federal Law Enforcement into American Communities plagued by Violent Crime will work every single day to restore Public Safety protect our nations children and bring violent perpetrators to justice federal offices will be sent to albuquerque in chicago both democrat run cities critics say the deployment is political an attempt to make democrats look weak on crime and so burnish image law and order president ahead of the november election. The mayor of chicago says she welcomes a partnership with federal agents but she once again shes in the same tactics as important ive been very clear. Not happening in chicago we dont need federal troops we dont need unnamed secret federal agents roaming around the streets of chicago thats not democracy that we saw unfolding in the streets of portland as a result of this federal action thats what we call tyranny and dictatorship and were not having it in chicago. Residents of chicago say extra police wont solve the issues facing the city they say action on gun control would be more effective in tackling Violent Crime and from Portland Oregon im joined now by activist and journalist laura just did. Youve been a part of the protests you also can you tell us what youve experienced in the past few nights. So weve been doing this for 50 i think its set and last has been a real shift. For that. Is that enough extra thanks that go on our own organizations and have a wife its very bitter. Or hot or tear gas. And raise that i dont im not a lot of my friends have been injured and its getting really scary. Speaking of. Brown the governor of oregon so i dont know we cannot have secret police abducting people on court is that really whats going on there. It seems to be i have been lucky enough not experienced myself or witnessed it but i have friends on threat why they think they get that after all. She said she was taking. Most part out on terror and then a few hours later they turned out any work and its good that she was released or is a problem is since all shes very expert on is that very release people. Are not wanting to rock i especially after protests oh very scary its disturbing would you say the vote is basically having the impact and these moves were supposed to have and therefore protests are going to subside. Oh no i dont think so portland is very angry a couple weeks ago we got a couple 100. 1000 and mike that last few nights now i think we know this is that you have to take a stand against this kind of thing this is the kind of thing that threats from ocracy none of us are going to stop fighting until it stops but when real change at the ballot box and do you think that these moves from the Central Government will go down well among us voters. I mean that is that is the real question is better talk just for extremists some kind of car work here at the great. Britain to Good Health Care and thats not because you had bought it out there are very regular horrible and theyre beginning to buy them and that the rebels and i think as long as that happens and as long as the 1st. People knew that this isnt an issue theyre still called by letter but instead people express anger. Violence perhaps that night i hope very much that backfires on top after its really. Important thank you so much for speaking to us thank. You what you