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During the day on the monday. Together with my doctor ive been told that the symptoms could be a possible cause with 19000 fiction. Considering the symptoms are the medical team decided to use hydroxy kill records. Pleasures time hunting taken the test i wouldnt know how tos and it turned out to be positive. Up with you. Also coming up tonight the new security law in hong kong what does it mean for free speech online and what about social Media Companies can they adapt or will they have to pick up and leap wythenshawe like it will and that even the same. Rights to. Receive for funding we have to somehow. Their worst scenario than me may also think to move to. Other countries. And to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the coronavirus and president ial powers today u. S. President donald trump notified members of congress that he is withdrawing the country from the World Health Organization with the number of new corona virus infections soaring in the u. S. And with hospitals filling up taking the u. S. Out of the w. H. O. May appear self defeating but it is in line with trumps attempts to deflect efforts to blame him for americas Coronavirus Crisis while trump continues to ignore the reality of the pandemic another president no longer has that option today resilient president is liable sanaa announced that he has tested positive for the corona virus the 65 year old has symptoms but he told reporters today that he is feeling better thanks to the entitle larry a drug pushed by President Trump olsen r. O. Is known as the trump of south america both leaders have a lot in common they downplayed the pandemic and theyve refused to stand behind efforts to stop the virus from spreading the virus however does not recognize executive power or privilege of any kind so far trump has avoided infection today he and the world to solve firsthand that the title mr president Means Nothing to the coronavirus. From the very beginning of the outbreak which i am both repeatedly played down the risks of the coronavirus and initially described this as a new flu he also floated sensual distancing recommendations and other measures including planned facemasks in public sonata has been tested 3 times previously who came back negative however on tuesday preceding and run 3 indeed it confirmed to local media he had tested positive for 19. Oh silly a bit of a laugh when i dont it on sunday with a certain feeling of being on well the cult with a monday with nausea tiredness a bit of muscle pain and a fever that reached 38 degrees in the lungs of the new and i then thought that with the sentiments and with the president ial doctor believing it to be a possible curvy 1000 infection i had a c. T. Scan at a Military Hospital here in brasilia my lungs were clear. Brazil is the 2nd worst hit country in the world after the us with more than 65000 deaths and at least 1600000 coronavirus cases. Despite this pass restaurants and other businesses are slowly reopening the people still have doubts and theyre getting as long as we follow the Safety Measures have space between the tables i think its worth reopening but we are the only ones in here but if for instance theres someone on another table i think i would probably feel uncomfortable to w. H. O. Has won the pandemic is far from over as its taking its toll around the world participants that have now been moved 11400000 cases of corporate 19 and more than 535000 lives have been lost the outbreak is accelerating. And we have clearly not reached the peak will the pundit make the motown folk in isolation also placed recently in prices and also not on a speedy recovery in his own battle against the current in the finest of a more on this lets go now to Rio De Janeiro talk to journalist much he is a brit hes been following this story for us good evening to you might see is does this have any impact on both ability to execute the office of president. But so himself says no he wants to go on to govern the country from his home by Video Conference so for at the moment its not sure if he would do so really or if rice president. Replace him. In the end it depends on the severity of the symptoms of both scenarios so the next days will be turbulent him brazil once he as we know that president wilson are says that he is taking the antimalaria drug that has been pushed by u. S. President donald trump now doctors say that that medication does not work against covert 19 so do we know why is also not taking it. Yeah i think he Still Believes in this medicine simply as that he he thinks it can help hes convinced by it instead of the critics by experts a recent study in man hours in the amazon capital of brazil showed that crow kind can. Cause heart attacks can of course problems which havent been there before so it is not recommended by experts for all type of patients so. Taking it in the end maybe because his role model donald trump all that so promotes this type of medicine we know that there is a growing list of political leaders who have become infected with the coronavirus some have changed their policies about the virus some have not how do you think this will impact the policies of president bush so novel. I think personally that it wont have a huge impact on his policies in future because its an hour is really keen to get a common new economy back on track he needs a Strong Economy in order to be reelected in 2 years and this is main aim to he wants to achieve and on the other hand hes in the middle of a political crisis many ministers stepped back in the last weeks and months so hes still he was a radical in the corona cries and i think i think he will go on like this because he is under pressure. Politically and that means he might not change too much correspondents yes reporting tonight from Rio De Janeiro brazil let us thank you. We are still meat deep in the 1st wave of this if you look at the at the graph from Europe Europe the European Union as an entity it went up and then came down to baseline now theyre having little blips as you might expect as they try to reopen we went up never came down to baseline and now is surging back so its a serious situation that we have to address immediately Dr Anthony Fauci there americas top Infectious Disease expert on the worsening pandemic in the United States and now the coronavirus is threatening a new group of people more than a 1000000 International Students in america some schools including Harvard University plan to only offer courses online next semester u. S. Immigration Authorities Say foreign students in rolled at schools with only online courses will not be allowed to stay in the u. S. And could face deportation. Now this could impact more than a 1000000 students a large share of them coming from china south korea and canada and there has been a lot of reaction on social media to this the economist danny bihari tweeting the trumpet ministration has now decided to deport yes deport thousands of foreign students the most skilled and talented young men and women of the world already in the u. S. And holders of a valid visa if thats not america attempting suicide please explain what is president us Richard Haass president of the u. S. Council on Foreign Relations tweeted this having foreign students on u. S. Campuses is a great way to make none americans proamerican its also a great way to introduce them to our ideals and persuade them to stay or take those ideals home we seem now to be intent on turning them away and turning them against us but some also defending the move Mark Krikorian executive director of the u. S. Center for Immigration Studies tweeted this what would be the point of foreign students being physically in the u. S. If all classes are online unless the real goal is to get a job and or put down roots as part of a scheme to stay permanently well to discuss the impact of studying in the us and what todays announcement means to us power and influence i am joined tonight by dr andrea snicker a member of the German Parliament for the conservative c. D. U. Party and also here in berlin professor would call youre an economics professor from the u. S. Who teaches here in germany gentlemen to both of you welcome to the day mr nick let me start with you if you were one of those International Students in the u. S. Not so long ago i mean you studied at Johns Hopkins and Harvard University just to name a few what impact did that have on hugh you are today. Only on me personally but i think for generations of International Students coming to the United States d that has deeply shaped their and form their perception of the United States of their of the ideals. Of american democracy and has been a great element of soft power of the United States around the globe and i find it almost incredible that you would to deliberately. Have to hate that enormous element of soft power in shaping views and perceptions around the world professor call your let me get your take on this would be you have seen 1st hand what studying in the us can mean for your students right here in berlin havent you tell me about that. Ok for 25 years i taught in the john f. Kennedy institute for north american studies at the university for women and we require our students to go abroad and naturally people would go to canada and the United States and to a student they would come back with a much richer different differentiated view of america what makes America Great where america shares problems just like problems here in europe but it is an understanding. For the United States and respect a deep respect for its educational institutions they bring that back the other thing to keep in mind the American Students gain enormously they dont have to come and go broad to have close intimate contact with. Students coming from abroad they enrich the campus environment in the United States its hard to imagine the stem a Group Science Technology Engineering studies mathematical studies these are many many foreign students who named it help maintain the programs and thats where the long term innovations for the American Economy are to be found out its you cant find a better win win situation than bringing the ambitious talented students to the United States today the head of the council of Foreign Relations Richard Haass tweeted that forcing foreign students to leave will mark the end of u. S. Soft power id like to get both of your reactions to the fessor call you let me stay with you just a moment i mean do you agree is this america attempting suicide. You know. Many things going to happen one needs a longer term view but this is definitely a step and a major step in the wrong direction it also seems to signal a belief that this is not just a temporary problem the whole idea of online teaching is not to replace face to face long term and change the nature of Higher Education no its an emergency measure chosen very responsibly by the individual universities so in many ways it would almost seem like its a surrender. To the code have epidemic mr nick you know you and i have talked many times on this program about the importance of soft power especially for superpower like the United States do you see americas soft power being eroded here. I think its clearly one more decisive step in giving up the moral leadership and the soft power that has shaped him into Foreign Policy and americas wrote in the world for decades and dont forget i think this goes back much stronger to the founding of many of those u. S. Universities. In the early days of the United States if i recall. From germany touring the nazi time who came to us universities including the new school in new york and others. At the bar college which recently is representing so theres a lot much longer tradition than just people of all generation here and. Being the worlds university and being credit lee attracting to talent from all over the world has been a key ingredient to soft power and will remain so in the 21st century and i fear it is another element of what richard houses also called the education of the United States as a Global Leader yeah its a very good point its a disturbing point because you cant buy soft power either you either have it or you dont underrate us nick member of the German Parliament and professor Irwin Collier economics professor here in berlin to both of you gentlemen thank you very much we appreciate you sharing your stories with us tonight thank you. If they get. The new security law in hong kong has created more questions than answers how far will the wall go in curtailing for us no freedoms what we do know is this authorities in the territory have begun combing the citys libraries to find books that may violate the law all the wall which forbids supporting hong kong independence today hong kong chief executive kerry lamb warn people not to break the wall promising harsh consequences but prodemocracy activists fear the consequences are already real w. C. Because reports already for years now everyone has joined fellow my most obvious party on the 1st of july to mark hong kongs handover to chinese fruit but everything changed this week it isnt uncommon for such a small peaceful protest to have 100 plus police to search a dozen office by cast this movie didnt you know you may never see a picture of me then hong kong is on the street ok not because we are content not because. We are now happy with because its because yes you are free to come out right because we were sitting behind. The swastika 1st protest seems to new security will was put in place was to see offenders go to prison for life for suppression. Several parties have now decided to disband some leading activists have fled but a very long and his party are not about to follow suit. Because if the point i make to the pot is about down now whats it to say that you do wrestle hong kong psychologically. The most selfless keypad to go to prison for a long time were not going to change what we have been doing for you but depends on day to. Suppression that we are going to face in the future there will be a certain. Mortification and transformation of activists i mean hong kong theres no doubt a strong sense of fear also lose hope a supporter of selfcensorship has been the most common reaction just as many prodemocracy restaurants have quickly taken down declarations for political messages leaving empty levels as a way of silence protests. In sr long a fact only a minority of law breakers critics say political activism is under threat and thats just the 1st step in the now works for an n. C. O. Based in hong kong for decades it has been advocating for labor rights across asia hochul has been a popular hub for thousands of local and international n. G. O. S but a new law means many are now we considering the options theres a lot of m. B. A. Quitting we dont know what do you mean by somehow maybe call it with Foreign Forces because we have stuff from overseas under this law we acquired in short like how it will impact even the safety of individual staff or water stuff rights for us to if we continue to receive for funding we have to somehow p. Pair are the worst scenario and we may also consider to move to. Other countries. Beijing has played down the last impact saying he merely plans to strengthen the management of n. G. O. S and our organizations in hong kong. Even those do it clear how the security law will be implemented activists and efficacious here will have to be where the face a rocky road. Was i and uncertain future it is about that i want to bring in steve hes director of the university of londons China Institute he joins me tonight from nottingham is just wrong its good to have you on the program let me 1st start by asking you what do you make of gerry lam today threatening harsh consequences for people who violate this new security law. But it is to be expected the new law was introduced to intimidate people in hong kong and therefore it is understandable that the chief executive would be making a Statement Like that in order to intimidate people there do you see this law as part of the process that beijing is now forcing to reclaim hong kong thats going to take us to the end of this period of 2 systems one state. Well one country 2 system opposed to hong kong has effectively been pushed to end the Chinese Government you would say as it has already set that it is to strengthen and one country to system what they really meant is that the strengthening of one country 2 systems as the communist party of china understands it and he finds it but thats not the way how people in hong kong would understand it is not the way how any objective analyst would understand. What does that mean the mr song for the people in hong kong for those prodemocracy protesters and activists what what would you advise them to do when the situation. Well what they should do is read a matter for damage to decide to do and its not really for an outsider like myself to tell them to watch to do what the Chinese Government has done is essentially east to criminal minds effectively all the major pulled has actions that were being taken by people in hong kong who when those to protest in this some of year. And it includes in fact not only the action of toll tast it also include anybody who should give any 2 nations to eat protesters. For that matter any parents who go out to pick up a youngster who had been on a protest movement somewhere in hong kong they are now illegal we know that china strongly resent what it says is foreign interference in its Domestic Affairs and with that in mind and with knowing how important china is and remains as a trading partner. Can the International Community can it bring pressure to bear upon beijing when it comes to hong kong. Well that depends on whether the International Community has to winch to do so we are looking at. The e. U. Working to get there with the u. K. And the 5 countries and i think that is going to be a lot of pressure on the Chinese Government and the hong kong but you cannot to geta and the Chinese Government will be able to be by and new which is stand that modus operandi but this must come at the best time then for beijing when it looks at europe and it sees brechts it taking place the u. K. And the European Union are going separate ways theyre not coming together this is exactly what china wants is an. I think youre absolutely right to be fair the Chinese Government had clearly he signed it that they would be doing something along the light of what theyre doing now by no one but last year well people call it 19 and became a and issue but wish to call it 19 bringing countries in europe and dignity in the United States to its needy and dependent on china will keep us from their perspective to tommy is now absolutely perfect to push a very very hot mind on hong kong mr steve song director of the university of london is trying to institute joining us tonight from out of the sun we appreciate your time and your insights tonight very valuable thank you thank you again situation is show us so us ok thanks duly noted. Well the day is almost gone the conversation continues online you can join us on twitter either at u. W. News or you can follow me at or at golf t. V. And remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day well see you going over the. Coming. 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