A member of the upper house of parliament and the National Spokesperson for the ruling b j p why does his party seem to show so much tolerance to those who found the flames of communal hatred. For gonchar jervey the welcome to conflict zone. Lets talk about indias response to the pandemic 1st of all various aspects of your governments response have been massively criticized both inside and outside india a much the 24th your Prime Minister mr modi gave indians just 4 hours notice of a lockdown something that one indian writer called the most punitive and least planned lockdown in the world what did you expect 100000000. 00 Migrant Workers spread out across the country to do with just 4 hours notice. If you want to understand what very high status of the situation and this is your wont say please keep up our china theyll be out of it yes nation in the world but under the will to fight or nation with 70 percent of the People Living in rural area. Then just 7 percent is still illiterate but people are sent living below poverty line you know or indian various every day 25000000 people are terribly lonely and they go well so every scene that. They should have been given a lot. If you see for it its number one well the spend the week broke out in the month of january there was only one level. It must have been arguing that this now we are under some so or at a time we were not that much good. Second thing at the time there were a lot more actual hits because they were not for a lot for the actual values or in the hospitals and the ok unit 2nd now. That its 2nd day there will be less number of until it has. Look i understand i understand mr trevanion but millions of workers were left stranded in city chiefs with no food shelter money or means of transport did nobody in your government think of that when the announcement was made. It gives you here military i would like to say this is the totally wrong. Crop of would have been provided all those weary i did it are even for those who i did those who are not having any idea the. Second thing direct money is being transferred 1000 rupees to every farmers 500 rupees to every woman and daughter who are living below poverty line they were or why did gas not seen once we offer this i am talking about the only double edition well i want to see and im just telling you that that the un the un did not buy your comforting assurances u. N. Experts said just 3 weeks ago we were appalled at the disregard shown by the Indian Government towards internal migrant laborers especially those who belong to marginalize minorities and lower caste they said youd failed to address that time humanitarian situation subjected them to Police Brutality and failed to stop their stickman ties ation as virus carriers. Telling you telling me they dont know what theyre talking about at the end i did nations. First i would like to complain to 1000 or repeats that people like that deny her or. If for farmers if 100000000 farmers what i get. In there is do alts so there was nothing of this sort and imagine the awkward nation are if one took millions. If they are living in rule it out what would that mean a situation the government in. Your district i would like to see on the International Media there are certain elements in our system which try to give long if only shown to them that are certainly lets talk about some of the bodies within india because some of your leading medical bodies also trashed the governments response didnt they the Indian Public Health association the Indian Association of preventive unsocial medicine the Indian Association of epidemiologists they accused you of incoherent and often rapidly shifting strategies and policies relying on the predictions of mandalas they said well way off the mark i view out of that charge. Not in our hands those who are saying this we are the biggest democracy of the word and to do it a sect i would like to see from Eastern Europe and japan we are the only surviving i mean democracy the Prime Minister has to get in and search and of all the up with. All the chief ministers of the state and then the lockdown will do all this started rival sense of what went to the announce foreign minister if they want to be and are the lokpal and the name of what in a stiff wind up. There or not we sovereign by the opposition government so it was the other Political Parties do it it was realising that it was a wideman lock down like im allowed to have a 2nd 5th of what not so it was a state yet you closer to each other about what is. Right it is an instance of the explodes vituss dance or does it by hazardous answer. Which are. Analytical 1st part done to their fate not to trivia if that was all true why by the 2nd week in june was the Supreme Court ordering the government to transport workers back to their homes within 15 days it also told the police to cancel all that charges against those who went able to get home by themselves its something of a disgrace isnt it that the Supreme Court actually has to order your government to do the decent humane thing that most other governments would do by themselves so who looks after the interests of the poor certainly not the b j p is it the law or not it is a step suck it 100 percent a 3rd subject Central Government at least go. To the feds object centered only controlling the central units. Stole on the stand it was a primary responsibility of the spirit governments to look up that sentiment but i do support them many of the sources unfortunately because of some misguided and some mysterious im not like. Some esteemed governments one and able to offer all that much as i have action that has created a little bit and in some State Government of the day that they have the if it wasnt. An 11 or migrant labor camp and. Give it all i have at this and then the subsequent. Men are never coming back people with it by bus it really will be managed and the Central Government has the ear or if the 5 percent of the cost of the remit to get if you want to say what it was they said government so if there is any thing to be said arm up coopted comment as to what has gone by been limited. In what at the bottom is still government because finding out what is the lesson government when he says something yes i think that is you know heres something that is your responsibility talk to each of a lets lets talk about food by the end of april the Food Corporation of india had 77000000 tons of cereals in stock but instead of giving it to states with very little money or ruling party tried to sell it to them at market rates something which shocked economists rita kara from the Indian Institute of management for instance said the governments unwillingness to relent and give it free to the states is mind boggling it couldnt understand why you were trying to profit from this grain instead of giving to people who not you dance of the lead on the moment has given free of cost. Millions of those who are not having i been to god but then the government has given for your cause like a jeep all if i give your rice some elses and not double back and say saw that it just died it wasnt whether the stuff or didnt cost but not only did. It just been provided free of course by government and mr gore but also so you would do this one bill im saying was already saying you dont like janet and that can provide the start just. Not when his is a statistic from the Financial Times which reported that of the the money most of the money that was given in extra funding it was less than 12000000000. 00 or about not point 4 percent of indias g. D. P. G. D. P. Thats one of the lowest levels of relief provided by any asian economy you proud of that on the contrary the government of india has provided a. Well it took 21. 00 macro rupee if were just 10 per cent of the g. D. P. Just 10 percent of the g. D. P. But that figure isnt filtering through to International Experts thats not filtering through and and also dr trevenna lets look at the special fund called the Prime Minister cas pm cas that has also brought a fresh deluge of criticism from around the country the promise to launch this fund with great fanfare in march received some one point 27000000000. 00 in funds which the government matched why so few details on how this money is being spent and why no official audit from the government know what it is the c. A. G. What have you got to hide here again i would like to say. One difficulty to get in the month of march and the audit is done better than the Financial Year doc needs. Who said in the 2 months of what you. Did you can barely even fitting is not properly completed 50000 mentally tears i call the music leaving given my youngins fun and it is a purely Government Fund and even the Prime Minister is the chairman home minister the member and the defense minister is a member nobody for me not the other parties nobody from the other party why why arent all the documents related to this fund made public why the lack of transparency but if the question of lack of justice and an issue to get ends then anybody asks that what was left and it was done and if its actual anybody in the question at the time got me and then its too late and then its too late why dont you release the information now people are giving money what because workers have been asked to give money government workers have been asked to give money why shouldnt they see where this money is going now the government have already given. Them. It is by 2000 farmers have been given to this separate details have been given which thankfully chosen on them and that was when they were. Under expenditures. But we did as you know theres been considerable controversy over the fact that oh all the people in charge of this fund are from your party and if its public money tell the public whats going on with it thats the point that people are making to you you know perfectly well its been well reported in the indian press you are misled. It is not done by the members of the by be done by the members of the government its not usually thats my point its meant run by members of the government only theres nobody from any of the other parties involved in making the decisions on this on this body nobody and nobody why not get you get me any financial body in the government of india. In which a member of the body of their identity learning to do should the teacher of id its not just your response to the pandemic thats attracted criticism agency after agency has highlighted the falling levels of democracy in your country i noticed a few months ago you were highlighting the fact that your country is a democracy this years report from he that Freedom House spoke of the Indian Governments alarming departures from democratic norms under the Prime Ministers b j p it also warded you the largest score decline among the worlds 25 largest democracies in its 2020 Freedom Index are you proud of that can you tell me only one fact on this the most criticized aspect of your decline has been the passage last december of the citizenship law which uses religion as a criterion for deciding which Illegal Migrants can be fast tracked for citizenship the measure favors members of all south asias religions except islam which just happens to be your 2nd largest faith thats hardly a coincidence is it i will get down student number one in the eyes of the oldest. All of the artists not only get it bob. And the particulars an awful lot of islamic people is very much there so it was incumbent on the i prefer to be the secular and the Democratic Caucus that gives shared with those who are religious liberty we are not selected and welcome yes there in those states. Bullis why do you stand secular un high commissioner for human rights doesnt agree with you he calls the law fundamentally discriminatory in nature and he should know shouldnt he deals with human rights abuses worldwide community. And actually discriminatory in nature yes because that muslims are well suited in their country that we cant see got there it was we have given 500 muslims citizenship but you want to start of i love the i dont want to come and openly say theyre just muslims also or dont even consider that is why does your party why is it so brazen in attacking its perceived enemies and why does it tolerate so much hate speech we have your home minister ahmed shah referring to migrants as termites to be eradicated in order to protest the b j ps chief minister yogi and thats promised revenge against those who protested against the citizenship amendments act and said they should be fed bullets not biryani why are these people never reined in by your party or disciplined by your party and allowed to say these these things. Again i would like to say if you go by the records was the. Biggest abuse. Is being used the words of it being used against the planet and they are saying that theyre not going to want a last doctor before this have been frequently used openly on their National Media only in the us openly on this to both nor no body or on the contrary you know the most awful at english and of of the country the public t. V. Was. Being held by police and question what just was shown to a political. And other journalist and pissing you lot doesnt apply are going to put a signal isnt it about an journalist who says that you have to be a bit unfair there why does our Capital Capital mishra for instance of the be j. P. In delhi he led a demonstration calling on people to shoot the protesters why was he allowed to do that knowing it is wrong you have never used the word through i cant convict 2nd fact he has used the word though you must take us what are you wind of or illegally or one month he has used the word or i am saying the list that were given today if you remove this illegal occupation otherwise we are here who you thought you are i mean if somebody might be legal there were ordered for the house and if you 17 years it would not. Go by police then you decide whats important to. What is the shooting to achieve 80 dr travail in the aftermath of the february riots in which more than 50 people died and the most of the muslims in the aftermath there was one of the most telling episodes when the Delhi High Court heard petitions about the riots in the city and asked why the police had not filed cases against b j p p politicians who had advocated violence the presiding judge dr marandi da want the delhi police of serious consequences for not investigating statements by b j p politicians he said im really appalled by the state of affairs of the delhi police the court had earlier watch videos of 4 b. J. P. Leaders kapil mishra faca abhay vama and partnership them which the drop described as hate mongering hate mongering how do you get away from that i would like to correct i think you were that it on one instance that she didnt say what was said by. The shooting was in the context of a. But to quote of what he said you did just local to the traitors of the country people said to them yes i actually meant this type of slogans that really should have a friend and start us but yet not use the word should then yes not the judge the judge called it hate mongering and you know what happened of course to the judge days later he receives a transfer order at midnight to a completely different part of the country and the federal law minister says it was routine and a great by the Supreme Court routine transfer at midnight do you seriously expect anyone to believe this you you managed to remove a judge who was asking questions about your politicians thats the sum of it isnt it. I want to i want to be for you and make it a point number one that im sort of a bitch i guess if its not done by government it is done by the g. M. Of the corps that its 2nd thing how convenient how convenient that it was just after he had our socalled questions let me come because and then suddenly the time for that was done there before and ive judged him question and also given the concern throughout the day before it was done but it was not exist to do it if were going to do what he should have been believe much as. I did and im saying it was done rather they have the full atlantis in this is miserable little bit like going on in the short time that we have left up to to evade it id like to just talk about the recent battle between indian and chinese troops in the northern lot that region once again this has raised questions about different versions coming from the b j p government where exactly did the fight take place between indian and Chinese Forces we know that some of the Chinese Forces died we also know that 20 indian soldiers were killed where exactly did this fight take place specifically on whose side of the border. Prime minister a little bit earlier niger. But it will. Not allow any of it was still under there and. Thats not what i asked i asked where the fight had taken place. There are light i see no defense in the lineup or. So light on military control is there there there i would. Seem that out so that it got me just off it which is a low lands so that in understanding in that is the Pacific Defense of. Who can come and what they will not elect and stuff. But the bottom one and. Our troops are gonna be find out that head of debt and if he in the us that is the op there try to find out it everybody sucks they have decided to force them back so where does the battle took place well on whose territory in the no mans land are you saying if it happened on here that chinese the chinese site in the chinese medically country or like the west this is where the battle took place with your forces yes and we have 4 young forces were in chinese territory or in no mans land where were they. Why is this so difficult why is it so difficult to tie down that you might get good line of military can and can be the several kilometers of. Genuine and human that people not fire any on you do not do any art you will i. P. O. D. And you do not any temporary object are going to hold up a moment when our troops are truly their final that in that all mans land and all of their you know yet want something pretty structure so that. They didnt know that despite that instructor and then brought him back and they were. So this all happened in the no mans land is that right is that what youre telling me it didnt happen in chinese territory and it didnt happen on indians territory the clear implication from all this fudging is that the chinese did cross into what you regard as indian territory but you wont admit that because you dont want to appear either weak for letting it happen or worse being asleep on the job and not reacting until it was too late which was it no it was very clear that the chinese to one of their ducks will be shocked and still is exactly there as they were there. But groups of that meet with each of your groups is the 2nd there as they were before and in that in which there is an agreement that nobody should come thereby to conquer. Why not just say clearly the chinese violated your border or they didnt we had 2 different versions we have the Prime Minister saying no no one has intruded into our territory or taken over any post and we had the foreign minister who said the chinese side sought to erect a structure in go one valley on our side of the line of actual control on our side in other words 2 different versions from 2 leading figures in your government no there was no difference at all as far as the chinese if you sell in the land and some just saw whats in twos and. They have got a certain if you are over it early in 1062 years of the us there you know what but now that the fight will be shown if then military vote but if you believe so now the outdated. If you say that the i dont know what theyre going to be just the you know what it. Is yes and what the militant group doesnt it is not. 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