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Standing on a german sidewalk alongside the french main street were in the summer region where European Economic cooperation began. 70 years ago last month were going to be asking whether those border controls left a bitter taste as we embark on a new phase can the Franco German motor drive recovery our title grand reopening france 24 and d w join up at the border for the debate welcome and 388 kilometers away is a little bit survive on the french capital paris chief economist at insurers and Asset Managers of yawns thanks for being with us and were joined by hina huffman he is president of germanys powerful trade Union Confederation the teaching me and let me start out with a question to you i know huffman when corona hit you urgently appeal to e. U. Member countries to coordinate their responses to the virus that didnt happen here at this border as it reopens would you say that germanys unilateral move to reimpose border controls was a mistake yes it was a mistake because. We meet experience and or understate is affected by the cool 100 and the more coup or need to response from the beginning would be much better than every Member States will be on his or her way and journey into gave the best example of the early beginning little bits of all you have roots in this part of france your thoughts. My mother is actually from there and i work from the largest insurer who happens to be german so for me closing the french german boat border was a heartbreaker and i agree that you know he was stupid and it is because trust was very low that every country in the European Union decided to manage the crisis on its own and now we asking an act of faith and reopening as if nothing. But most of the country and especially most of the companies will remember this as a scar for quite some time quite some time you say and thats the big question here locally we spoke to the recently reelected the mayor of show nick gabrial bastion it was a friday night suddenly here we are on the french side over the other side the streets the german side and these barriers come up. As well these little return moments on the divan here and the party system and devoutly counted you know all the about income security could do more than what people see on the money that is on the poor People Police on just to please you dont you could feed a massage a day to a new person a difficult problem to not only to protect wanted to poke a hole of his own film in 2004. That cool. Does it change for you personally the way you see europe just you this you can help to see decisions or is an apostate practice are you a supplier. Like im sorry for it could you want to sit data did i do these. And all those used to see it is what you like mondays are his and most are going to come in the whole place. Or. A little sensitive he thought he took a lot of the townspeople here have not forgotten that viral video of a 65 year old frenchman who was pushed to the ground by German Police when he sneaked across the border to buy cigarettes we also have people who told us of cars being cheat and basically not being welcome across the border. We are taking the show in front of a local restaurant that found in south in a no mans land when the barricades went up and cut this town in half german Restaurant Owner thomas shits says even when he finally reopened after lock down the lack of french customers badly hurt his business now shifting the modest launch to gusto to meet often but often violent on veers into often and on visas avoid v. L. T. Fun schools and redefines was an awful means of the via voyager begin again a function call from those on the lead and smitten he finds those uncommon he ones and in the 100 i get to still feel like a shift a human and can be through. Sports and fun fun too sequential fleeting what do you expect from the European Union going for lent. Me a dozen countries and each may keep vegas and ends and we have islands was on the good of a good one for them and want us soldiers at least one. In the longer freak to 4 inches off by appt. To see us from out slush this is the escalation to 1st in last month thats the solution i gave us money on and off the boat up on the solution is to come. Yeah billet doux you mentioned how the. Restaurant is in a no mans land im standing on a piece of sidewalk here that is right in france if i put my foot here im actually in germany and that gives you an idea right or half than your thoughts on whether this will leave sting scars yes including the experiences we made over the last couple of weeks is that you know of us not really in a position to cooperate much stronger together we make a lot of painful experiences a moderate each and and dont forget all the people coming from france working in jordan germany a lot of the other would be a lot more to come in germany going to to france this has been really different killers and difficult. And he changed since has been created which have even though thats my opinion entirely unnecessary if im a small coordinates that corporations. Have in the last couple weeks. Is this a systemic problem with the European Union or was this just well the panic because we weve never seen a pandemic like this one before. Of course there is an element of panic i think it was a 1st for many of us its a its once in a generation and hopefully only once but i think the resentment also starting very strongly when he was out of the 73 scandal that we went through in france people were extremely disappointed to hear that our german neighbors had tests as masks and we didnt have any so i think that there is of course the the original sin which is how weak the European Commission has been at the beginning at the onset of this crisis but very quickly we sold the divergence when he came to the number of 50 people and the number of casualties which created this sense of nervousness and there were mistakes remember that there was exports of mass from germany to relieve that was you know a bone of contention at one point and people remember this and also the way we we behaved i would say of the onset of the crisis between government was not perfect so so i hope that we will overcome these these resettlements and that now we are going to build something strong together germanys going to be going to hold the presidency of the European Union on the 1st of july and its a very defining moment for european slee darity and sovereignty which are the 1st time we hear those words even in the world of the german. Foreign office. Let us come back in a few minutes to the question of that germany e. U. Council presidency but 1st a question to both of you briefly about potential political implications from the resentments that you have both describing that we heard about in those interviews with people here in the town supply you have worked for the French Finance Ministry you know french politics very well do you see the potential for the economic pain and frustration that were voiced there sparking perhaps right wing nationalism in regions like this one i mean historically this region has been one of the bastion of independent theory member exist in spite of the very european sentiment you just described so so i think what is sure is that everybody is concerned about these health and Economic Crises morphing into a political and a social crisis especially in france because of the severity of the recession the severity of the confinement and also some of the policy mistakes that are in the making but it comes to not restart the engine soon enough so if everybody is kind of worried and everybodys looking also whats happening in germany because you need the chancellor merkel has a record high level where president macro hes actually losing steam so were also looking a little bit how the other countries are going to vote on the on the aftermath of this. And i dont have meant just briefly your thoughts on potential political implications of these wounds that you talked about a moment ago yeah 6 of the risk is high. As you have described in france the paranoia in germany if he could. Could gain critical capital out of this crisis but on the other hand if things are going better if the pandemic is under control and if economic recovery starts to win us in korea we have also a huge number of opportunities especially from france and germany going the same direction and there are some as a real answer to your committee let me ask you to pick simple can the arrestee german french motor be retold maclin macro appear to have gotten it happen running again but is that a temporary recovery or do you think that their plan for bringing growth back to europe after cove it can actually drive robust resilience here in this region. Well certainly this was what weve been expecting for the last 3 years right every one of them was giving a speech and the other was sounding a bit busy and not answering back so base time they actually agreed to something quite groundbreaking the socal hamiltonian moments on the 750000000000 euro for the European Commission to be able to finance the recovery is groundbreaking the next generation the u. S. Groundbreaking but more importantly i think we are coming out of this crisis much less naive when he comes to the us china reve already and our place as europe as a sovereign europe as a strong europe in the school will show political nightmare so ip the french and the german are quite serious about it and i think it will actually be the beginning of something then how long it will take how successful will we be it will depend on all of us to Work Together companies ive always been much more european than governments so we should trust the private sector to do that and not try to be which the french love to do a b. To interventionist because that was really what you know could be. The big. Would say disincentive for this recovery to be joint and to be shared and to be successful let me just remind our audience that the hamiltonian moment essentially refers to a comparison with the history of the United States when in the 18th century Alexander Hamilton actually persuaded the original u. S. States to mutual eyes their debt in other words to take responsibility for each other steps and that is an element of the merkel macron plan for european recovery its an element the president mentioned yesterday evening in his speech to the french nation when he expressed confidence in the plan that he and the german chancellor have introduced soprano hope often shown so far they can all get credit to me that you see i know until the moment. Like coffee or tool that. It im proud of is to small border to say economy to continue know it until now destroy together with your french Union Colleagues and a half men you have applauded America Mccraw plan but that optimism that we just heard there from president card doesnt exactly capture the mood of people here in this region what can you and your french colleagues in the french trade Union Confederation what can you do to ensure that recovery really reaches people in regions like this one. Acing it will be quite important that what the micro and merkel has agreed to will be accepted or to buy or other Member States that is a long way to go and it has been mentioned that germany would take over from the 1st of july the e. U. Presidency and i see that the German Government has a huge responsibility to get the Recovery Program on the road which is in basis and which is really targeted that recovery can take place soon and. I am quite convinced that if france and germany taking their responsibility lets we are we have an opportunity to use this crisis as a chance for a much closer and a much more soldier in iraq and as you have mentioned we have to see this in a broader context what is going on the United States what is going on in asia in china and what kind of role you are will be able to play in the future and if you dont use this opportunity acing then we are facing a big failure and nobody has no interest that you were to fail in that speech sunday night youd have extra ball we heard the french president use words like sovereignty independence of course it means Different Things for different people as you said earlier this village where im standing show next voted for mccain look then in the 2nd round of a president ial election the head of a man your next voted for the far right. Economic sovereignty that means Different Things for different people in this europe we live in. You know as a as a french working in germany you know the french were always seen as very to vention is you know we wanted european champion said it when face was with trump and jim being in and then the germans especially the Business Community was always saying no no our strength is our listen fair we are a french word by the way beacon of hope of capitalism we shouldnt intervene too much and now our germany becomes a shred sheet away because you know the stats academy give back speaks himself about sovereignty so i think we will take yet another you know a few months to define what we really mean by sovereignty germany during the presidency of the of the European Union but also talk about european goods you know present mccrone used to talk about by european that all of that of their strong words but as you say how do they translate on the ground how do the trustees see the election and where people every day lives the french german french and i think this is going to be nice for me will be approaching the putting of the next few years and full chess of marco because the elections are coming in germany and might cause a bit more time but they will have to leave it in the rio the real life of these people to make sure that hes not just a few words and a french he delectable concepts that has been thrown a crisis that has been very severe and we you know life changing moments for people like those of the next you know. Possible i just mentioned sovereignty can mean Different Things to Different Countries would you expect to see europe it may be reopening its borders as we can see by the way from all of the traffic passing on that street that was very cried for a long time europe may be reopening its own borders but are we seeing europe potentially more closed in future when it comes to global trade. You know that the corner virus has been one of the most severe shock on trade were going to lose close to 3 trillion dollars of exchange of goods and services in 2020 thats a 1st and of course everybody in the recovery is trying to have the story short you know narrative whereby people are going to try to save jobs and protect jobs and maybe you know compact supply chains a bit more and this is where i think you know the german and the french perspective will be very different the french have always been much less dependent on global trade than germany which has been marked antonys by nature so germany in the current 2 packets the Stimulus Program is trying to help local consumption germany by investing in the french german accord for the recovery strength you have outlets in europe that are stronger nearly staying friends with germanys malis very dependent on demand from asia on the men from the u. S. And so i dont know what you each extent were going to be in sync when it comes to you know how protectionist we one should be or how we tell yechury we want to be 2 or china or whats the u. S. A towards the asean country the Southeast Asian countries are clearly doing dumb pigs fiscal and social to be part of the global chain after coding and so how are we trying how will we address this when we have very different states we dont have the same providers we dont have the same clients how can we have the same voice thats going to be really something you know up for discussion in the next months let me let me ask friend of hopping for his reaction to that a lot of the jobs of the industries that you represent in the German Trade Unions Confederation depend on exports is this something that concerns you a possible Movement Toward a more closed or more state interventionist europe some people say that the governments hand is going to become much much heavier in the wake of corona. A singular you are right that especially in germany is depending very much there from a strong export industry. To 2 percent of our experts are going through in the 1000000 we dont service dont forget this and our 1st target and 1st goal should be and this is what the french trade unions and the has made clear a couple of weeks ago that we are depending so much from europe and that you appeal recovery is important for germany but it is important for finance internet and spain if people are. Not in good circumstances if they are suffering in italy then german workers will suffer a couple of months later so we have to take much more to get that 1st the 1st and the 2nd thing was in a comes to lower the ongoing globalization closed as he. Grew up and deming learned our lesson that we should use evo as a tool for a new Agenda Setting. For Agenda Setting that it will be much more fair it will be much more sustainable as it was in the past and again this cannot be done by a Single Member state cannot be done by strasbourg germany alone or we can act only as strong partners together at the european level together receive opinion if weve seen a spike reiner halfman in the rise of populism this past decade its because we already had a continent wide emergency here 2708 and theres a feeling among citizens that the banks got bailed out but not the people. This time around what will be different will it just be multinational corporations that will get bailed out all and also be workers that will be helped no i think 1st of all workers have to experience that they. Got this a part which. Which is needed and secondly we have to make sure you know the companys. Responsibility and that means for the next couple of weeks that dismissal being limited that he should through an increase in unemployment if unemployment figures are on the increase of the year old will be in a very difficult situation and this could be a new source for ripening parties and g. O. P. Movements if we dont deliver what workers are expecting expect in security and safe jobs let me ask both of you this as you have said and as president emphasized last night german french cooperation is reviving its looking stronger than it has in quite some time on the other hand germany is vastly outspending all other e. U. Member countries when it comes to National Recovery rescue packages couldnt that unfairly tilt the Playing FieldGoing Forward in others words represent a Real Advantage for this already disproportionately strong German Economy compared to other countries. Right i have made a start with you and i get a reaction and this is a very serious point and so the risk is very high and. Absolutely necessary that the the German Government has to take up their responsibility as they have agreed in the Coalition Agreement on the future he wrote that germany has to spend more there are 210 opinion that germany has a responsibility that we get our own fiscal capacity then the much annual Fund Financial framework will be handled under the german presidency this has to become a success if this will be a failure a single you will be at risk and this is not good for german citizens its not good and since the effects of your reaction to that perhaps as a frenchman working in germany do you think germany is ready to really. Take European Solidarity seriously in the sense of putting its money on it. Yeah i think so but i as an economist im always looking at you know whats whats happening underneath and the shoe is of course that you still have voices against the European Central bank and low or negative Interest Rates because germanys savers feel that theyre being taxed. Is that the Business Community fears for the future Corporate Tax increases and so of course everything that is spent now we see as a debts to the future of this is still very much what the german Business Community ease looking at but i believe that germany is coming out very strong from these crises in the way each is committing its. Own. To its neighbors to its outlets germany east taking a form of readership that economic but at the that is also in terms of policies you know in france we adopted quite sound bites the 1st no from germany because we know each works the nates other 9 to safeguard jobs how you know much more cooperative can we be than this right but the future is of course about you know making sure that you mentioned this the sphere that is there present in france that france is lagging behind that the french Manufacturing Sector will never be stronger you know than the you know its neighbors and that we see germany which in a lot of money and france you know because of the past money spends we kind of do as much so thats going to be of course. Something that leaders federations like hair off mens federation and you know the unions will have to discuss and to reassure one another to show how it is important how important it is that supply chains Work Together instead of trying to see these can you believe secure up we need to go from rules to trust we need to go from safety net to springboard we need to go from you know a real. Operation that means that yeah maybe we shoring will mean that will we have more workers in one country but another then another but in the end it will mean more workers in both countries and this is something that we really need to start explaining now to avoid that sue years down the road we have another greek moments for me thats the biggest fear i have and i once weve all got out oh closely explain reading what we doing right now and what should happen but you know you mentioned earlier how the private sector is often more european than the politicians nonetheless there is that fear that those corporations are going to yes take advantage of this crisis well to fire a lot of people increase their productivity as was the case again in 20082009. Well this is the actual this is the real 2nd wave right jobs and bankruptcies on the mind of politicians thats why for example the German Government decided to do the stimulus package now to avoid you know a massive you know a period of unemployment and an bankruptcies in france we suppose flown the decision to september but but we have these very strong you know shorts emplacements programs and we working on trying to make sure that bankruptcies dont happen and hes eager bankruptcy dont happen but this is this is going to be of course you know a very domestic issue to manage if some governments dont show that they are that measure up to the needs the social needs of the countries then the anti european sentimental come back but that the one difference is that we have on both sides of the rhine leaders that actually dont blame it all on europe we will not you know make the mistake of 2012 again weve been vaccinated against these mistakes we cannot blame it all on europe we need to explain deposits even europe at this is all what it takes to make sure that even though we may have social difficulties in each country it doesnt jeopardize the group the broader need for stronger europe and more industry industry independent europe a more autonomy and sovereign europe and just a politics question the domestic one we divvied survive on you mentioned how america announced that rolled out that huge stimulus package it seems to be coming piecemeal here in france why didnt we have a big bazooka moment from him on your own back home when it comes to you know do you talk about the auto Sector Aerospace the tourism why didnt you do it all in one blow. And we dont have the same countries right so the french and the French Police makers right now are convinced that the mens is not the problem that we should all do supply and productive investment and we need to boost potential growth because we were so profit before there is a part of truth. Here but its true that in a sense it means that they are choosing theyre picking the sectors that is very french to be interventionist of a country germany because of the room to maneuver and because of the need for quite some time to give the seats in chief to consumption any best mans because that wasnt best and then you had these big asuka temporary v. H. D. Reduction and so forth so i think its the history of 2 countries last question to both of you with the group press for a very short answer if you would because we are just about out of time right now hofmann mentioned earlier in the program turning a crisis into an opportunity essentially a quote from churchill saying never waste a good crisis the fact is the e. U. Has had quite a few crisis in the past 8 years and it hasnt always made good use of that what do you think how optimistic are you that things will be different this time around hoffman im quite optimistic and weve only peeled present towards a German Government soon to take up their responsibility in the 2nd half of this year and to fix upon well i will do like mr hoffman of my side of the right just to make sure that we keep them accountable for what theyre probably see the people because be kind of missed that one absolutely. And lets make it that way thank you very much to both of you for being with us here on the debate as d. W. Joins up with fastback hats are many thanks melinda crane many thanks to you for joining us as well bye for now. Beyond. The stories that matter to. Prove. Whatever it takes. People are running. Up your claim to know that. You made 4 mines. This week on world stories. Italy once again open to tourists ukraine surrogate mothers babies are waiting for their parents but we begin in india sit down restrictions have been eased the number of corona virus infections has risen sharply hospitals are strained to beyond capacity while temporary morgues are reaching their limits and the situation is bound to worsen apart from pockets of Containment Centers the deed to day lives of people in india seem to be returning to normal as logged on restrictions east but these sites hardly reflect the real situation india is fighting a tough battle with coronavirus and for the capital city delhi which has a big surge in the number of covered 1000 cases the fight just caught up with a number of infections spiraling theres great concern about the Health Care Systems capacity to pull. Things family is one of many who lost a loved one in the pandemic. His father in law saying who was asked a magic death to positive for the virus after hours of waiting in line at the hospital where the test was done became unresponsive to their cause and the family struggled for days to get proper guidance. Even took to twitter to share their ordeal. Be tried on business numbers of private hospitals. Produce computer. Produce. Space produce clearly said no we dont we dont have beds the hospital or the Government Hospital which was. Really built through the government on that day morning the doctor initially refused to take him in. This has been done in a different hospital here and as we were trying to. Get inside the car by the time received medical attention his condition worsened and he. Especially since records indicate that there are enough hospital beds available to treat patients. Some experts say the problem is not entirely due to the infrastructure. Hes going to. Make they should be working in. Human resources greatest scared of you know theres a lot of panic in the doctors not coming forward with access to Government Hospitals becoming increasingly difficult delis private hospitals are charging exorbitant amounts of money which makes the treatment and affordable. The government says it just. To deal with the rising number of cases. Seem to be falling short and for many it would be too early. In ukraine. Mother is both legal and lucrative but. The countrys borders were closed and many parents have had trouble picking up their babies like this. One month and 3 days late but at least theyre together. And your elders have traveled more than 10000 kilometers by car through a continent in lockdown to finally meet their daughter. She still has to get used to us she doesnt know who we are. Their daughter spent her 1st month with a carer in an apartment her parents are only able to see her on a screen. You know hes so sad we were crying just seeing her pictures and unable to do anything for her you just feel so helpless all you can do is wait. As their daughters birth came and went and with no end to look down in sight or pull out and your oldest could do was scour the ukrainian press with the help of a translation app on the lookout for some sign of hope neither the Spanish Government nor the Ukrainian Embassy could hold would help when they read that ukraines human rights on woman have promised help parents into the country. Just jumped in their car to drive the 3600 kilometers from their home in madrid to kiev. First trip was a live in the dark we didnt know what wed encounter at the borders on route they received a long hoped for permission to enter ukraine yeah i cried when he received this i didnt think a piece of paper could make this happen. But it wasnt enough. The checks and were just 500 kilometers from kiev then they told us no we just couldnt take it anymore they were missing just one document enough for them to be turned back at the Ukrainian Border returning home to madrid was the only option without their baby week later they were back at the ukrainian frontier after 7000 kilometer round trip to madrid and back this time with the right documents and they were finally allowed into the country. Other parents have been less fortunate separated from their children by even greater distances and still unable to enter ukraine how many babies are still without their parents no one can say with any confidence. You know weve lost months of our daughters life. Super important. It was actually a month or 3 days to me it felt like a year spanish must sound strange to her she doesnt want to sleep she just wants to listen to us. In spain as in many other European Countries surrogacy is a legal gray zone not a legal nor illegal the coronavirus lockdown was just the 1st of many obstacles on that path. South africa has been locked down since the end of march with devastating economic consequences for the poorest people the government did announce aid but its been slow to deliver again bosses are using this as an opportunity to burnish their reputations. Many charities in the cape town feed the hungry what sets this one apart is the fact that it spoiled by a former gang leader. Leon meyer used to head the mongols one of the most feared gangs in this city. I know now most of the people going to have financial wise start something he just told. That drug. The slogan on his t. Shirt says the harder you fall the stronger you brice it could describe meyers own life he was behind bars for 18 years for crimes including a murder conviction this area the cape flats has a reputation for organized crime and Drug Trafficking keep time shes an average of 8 murders every day but not done has led to a drop in gang warfare according to a local pastor. Theres a resign when a mother of 4 says leon meyer has become a symbol of hope in the area since the last time she used up her welfare payments halfway through the month unemployment is rife here. Its because the media and people like that in our neighbors to our people. I think you can. Be delegates up for anything that only tell you when the vote for anyone. Ever known to you. Its the community and support the community. But criminologist dawn pennock is convinced gang members have an ulterior motive for helping out their community. Killings in my experience all didnt do anything for anybody else that they its all about themselves its all about what they can gain so you know what 1st question would be if they distributing food parcels why you know what are they getting out of it and. You know they might want to look good in their communities but there might be using that isnt locked out so you know how do you get out and distribute your drugs. Back on the cape flats leon mio admits that breaking with the past is easier said than done. But it is never going to go away i going to be gets on that note it again says will always be there will always be gangstas in the way we stay in the way we love it all together i used to considering itself again that im still. A nutcase im a born again im alone little i will thing against him. Is the only way out. And through this i got supplied by people. In the meantime you guys are we simon is headed home with. She says she doesnt judge others a priority is making sure her children dont go to bed hungry. Venice was strangely empty during the coronavirus lockdown it was a rare opportunity for this normally brimming lagoon city to recuperate but now visitors are starting to return. Venice is legendary waterways without the masses a rare commodity here gondoliers are slowly returning to the citys canals but so far only a few visitors have indulged themselves usually packed with tourists at this time of the year pizza san marcos seems almost deserted after the Coronavirus Crisis brought the city to a near standstill venice is gradually opening up to visitors again. But not everyone is looking forward to the return of the masses jane demo still sees this as an opportunity for a much needed change she has been advocating for a more sustainable form of tourism one that doesnt put the future of the city at risk the problem with fantasy is that its in an extremely fragile delicate system and and you cant just. Do anything you like to venice it needs to be. Treated carefully otherwise there wont be any venice left in the future and we need to be responsible about. The legacy of venice and think about what venice has given to us other people have a right to get that too she tells us venice has a unique way of life that is threatening to disappear jane the most who wants to risk to engage with the city again spending more time in restaurants and museums and not rushing through in a few hours. While many agree venice needs to change the way it handles its visitors the citys tourism counsellor wants to further assess the situation before applying any drastic measures. This is not the museum. We dont. You know some capping the city in the ward i dont think so many many people speak about the. Tourists now there are 50 millions 30000000 on song and its not i want to count i will know how many people. Every day and i know with travel restrictions now being lifted all over europe the nations should not take too long to decide what kind of future they see for their city. Entered the conflict zone with sarah kelly swedens unique trust based approach to tackling the coronavirus pandemic project in the strict lockdowns imposed around the world but the policy has come under increasing criticism and pressure my guest this week is swedens foreign minister and linda with a death toll much higher than its neighbors to sweden needed deadly our conflicts of. 30 minutes w. 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