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Through through one weve got us going to play to the future the fear has been security i believe kids will be spending big to get only thing i did he said to get it would fall apart. Also coming up with a coronavirus has made solidarity in europe hard to come by and very expensive a stimulus package to rescue e. U. Economies is on the way the price tag half a trillion europes when france and germany give a say can now i think the hold off the europe is in better shape to form an opinion and to progress. To our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with proof that there is strength in numbers last month when australia 1st called for an International Investigation into. The 1000 pandemic china immediately baulked at the idea beijing accused australia of doing the dirty work of the United States which claims that china withheld information in the pandemics 1st day but in just the past 2 weeks australias suggestion has attracted global attention and Global Support today 120. 00 countries and the European Union said that they are in favor of an impartial inquiry much of the world wants answers and now china apparently does to beijing also wants an investigation as soon as the pandemic is over of chinas position change did nothing to change the stance of its main critic the United States i want you to take a listen to what representatives of the u. S. In china said today during a Virtual Summit of the world health cope at 19 as tragically taken hundreds of thousands of lives impacted millions of people and a deep damage to the World Economy we must be frank about one of the primary reasons this outbreak spun out of control there was a failure by this organization to obtain the information that the world needed and that failure cost many lives in an apparent attempt to conceal this outbreak at least one member state made a mockery of their transparency obligations with tremendous cost for the entire world we saw that w 2 failed at its core mission of information sharing and transparency when Member States do not act in good faith this cannot ever happen again. But not in the long china has acted with openness transparency and responsibility. We have provided the information to the w. H. O. And relevant countries in a most timely fashion. We release the genome sequence of the earliest possible time we shared our experiences in control and treatment we have done everything in our power to support and assist countries in need. It when i thought in troops. Well more now im joined by dr Margaret Harris from the World Health Organization in geneva and doctors its good to see you again weve got 120 countries that are in agreement that the w. H. O. Should carry out an independent investigation of itself is that possible. So what they are in agreement with is this should be an independent investigation of where what we have learned from this outbreak and thats really really important to know at whats gone right whats gone wrong and what we can apply Going Forward of course how thats going to be set up and how thats going to be done its not clear and we as a secretary of the tame that of fighting this outbreak no thats not what we will be doing but it is up to the Member States to decide how it will be done so when be done by us the secretary of. The w. H. O. Will obviously use science to guide any investigation but if the w. H. O. Wants to deliver clear answers its going to have to do forensics investigating its going to have to ask labs in showing that have worked with corona virus before to open up their books does the w. H. O. Does it have the forensics expertise to do that and does it have the Political Authority to make that happen. So under the International Health regulations we all school countries and all countries under the i dont think action to share data but we cannot compel so but again any comedy of investigation of that kind you need to set the questions you need to set the parameters you need to have agreement by the countries how these things were done so were quite a long way off working out the actual needs he gritty of such an investigation we know that all stroy in the United States reportedly want a resolution calling for harder measures against china china has agreed reportedly because the resolution has been watered down the European Union we understand was the mediator in the Bridge Builder between the 2 sides can you confirm then is that what happened. All those discussions happening between the Member States so you have to understand the weight of you h. O. Works its a member state organization and they are our bosses but we the secretariat do the work so thats like policy but like the politicians and like them the the stuff of the Health Department and we have the stuff to do the work the Member States do the negotiation certainly from australias presentation they gave. It they had a desire for an investigation looking at what we can learn from whats gone on before and what we can take forward. China says it wants an investigation to happen after the pandemic is over but you and i both know that that could be of some time a long time in the future is that in anyones interest to wait that long. So refuse things that you you know especially when youve got something thats going as long as it is there we actually review the evidence all the time in fact we have already had need to bend an investigation over a really response by something called our independent oversight Assessment Committee that look at our Emergency Response they were set up in 2016 when we were formed in order to have much stronger Operational Response and they were already built and said the things that with that have just been mentioned giving w. H. O. Of maybe more powers to ask countries will compel countries to give better data these things theyve already raised so ongoing investigations could certainly be done its not clear exactly when they can be done. And let me just ask you dr harris as a as a medical professional want to get your reaction to news today that a pharmaceutical modena has reported success in its early human trials with a vaccine what your reaction is that thats the 1st report that we have so far that. Well i havent actually actually seen the studies but quite a number of groups have certainly said promising. The same promising responses in the human. Studies but the issue is you need to have a study for quite a period with a large number of people in order to ensure not only that they are effective but also the safe safe yeah and but were certainly happy to have the good news to report tonight dr Margaret Harris with the World Health Organization joining us tonight from geneva as always dr harris we appreciate your time and your insights thank you. Thank you. What china cannot lay all the blame on the United States for the international communitys suspicions and dell the Chinese Government is accused of trying to silence and even punish its own physicians who tried to alert the world when the outbreak began and there is chinas heavy hand in Foreign Policy china reportedly blocked taiwan from participating in todays w. H. O. Assembly and remember taiwan has valuable information to share about how it has successfully limited the outbreak lessons the world could benefit from if only beijing werent standing in the way. No lockdown of any kind despite its proximity to china taiwan is one of the few spots on earth where life has continued close to normal throughout the pandemic with only a few 100 Coronavirus Infections and less than 10 deaths taiwans handling of the crisis is a unique Success Story all the more surprising that the w. H. O. Doesnt seem to be interested in taiwans approach the organization blocked taiwan from taking part in its annual meeting several years ago under pressure from beijing that has deprived the island of access to crucial information about the virus. We were successful yes. Without that platform it was very hard like we dont have many serious cases so treatment what bobby tees protocols for serious cases a living will taiwan we will stop this kind of political rhetoric we will talk hold on to that more important issues like health of everyone involved dr lu used to be a delegate to the w. H. O. When taiwan was still allowed to attend the assembly as an observer but that ended on beijings behest when taiwans president from the Pro Independence Party Took Office 4 years ago china claims that island as its own territory and therefore deems taiwan has no right to w. H. O. Membership. Politics should be set aside when it comes to Health Issues yes its good for taiwan to share its experience with the world but you know again our tehran has made a contribution to Public Health so its unfair to be excluded now if you have a problem. Taiwan has maintained its infection rates lower than almost anywhere else with 0 domestic infections for over a month even so the taiwanese havent let their guard down. Perhaps this is one of the things the world and the w. H. O. Could learn from this island. Half a trillion. Trillion thats 12 zeros and astronomical song which german chancellor Angela Merkel and french president. Have pledged to speed europes economic recovery from the Coronavirus Crisis or how do you get your hands on these amounts for the 1st time germany is offering its excellent Credit Rating to help borrow money for the fallout heres more now from merkel and. Its Wishful Thinking to hope europes economies could bounce back as easily as these parisian after months under lockdown even before the e. U. Commission presents its aid package by lynn and paris are rushing through a joint initiative for economic recovery in a bid to put this crippling face behind them. In a joint News Conference with the french president chancellor Angela Merkel stressed the coronavirus pandemic is in danger and european unity. On most a recovery thats why the fund has to help ensure that all countries in europe can react appropriately inspiration this requires an extraordinary one off effort also which france and germany are ready to undertake a stunt of funk ice but i think that if we dont this is the result of bilateral work in cooperation with our partners im convinced that this plan provides the groundwork to revive our lives our economies and our societies. To offset the drastic decline in production transport and tourism across europe this Development Fund will get an injection of 500000000000 euros e. U. Budget funds will be made available to the hardest hit regions and sectors. The overall plan is designed to strengthen the e. U. s future viability of team dean and these and these resources to live course serve this purpose we will invest in digitization and the green deal to cope with the climate catastrophe one stomach and that will inspire a new dynamic for the future in the field of health we will aim for cooperation to apply all weve learned from this crisis together one night that sounds like support for the e. U. Commission whose economic Recovery Plan is being drafted the commissions president is expected to present it next week if more now lets bring in eric jones hes the director of european and your Asian Studies at John Hopkins University school of advanced International Studies in below italy and that is where he joins me this evening professor jones its good to have you on the program 500000000000 euros is some of it will not have to be paid back what about where you are will italy be able to live with this well i think 500000000000 euros is a lot of money lets not kid ourselves its a very small amount of money compared to the scale of the crisis that we face so i have to figure out how were going to scale the gap between the number thats being offered right now and the number thats required i think it will greatly receive any support that it can get but obviously if the crisis continues to deepen and italy is going to need more support in the future so lets hope that there is sign of agreement it is a sign of good things to come you wrote last month that now is the time for europes leaders to do whatever it takes to save europe whatever it takes is half a 1000000000 euros doing whatever it takes. Look across the atlantic at the United States and what youll find is that the very 1st stabilization act that was passed was a stabilization act for about 2 trillion dollars this part of nonmoney was 500000000000. 00 that youre talking about right now is what it is equivalent to one quarter of that coronaviruses Economic Stabilization act at the end the bottom of the big package with us at so i think this is a good sign in having france and germany come to agreement is excellent but its not going to be enough overall and we know that there will be no carona bonds and this economic package but as we were saying earlier germany is willing to lend its excellent Credit Rating to help borrow money for this fund but we heard today that the german chancellor said that that is a one off what do you make of that well i think its going to be interesting right even though the whole purpose of this fund it is to use the European Commission as an agency to incur a significant amount of debt and if the European Commission develops the kind of expertise necessary to run those kinds of treasury operations then why wouldnt you use it in the future if the need were to arise they started with the sure program which is the commissions Assistance Program for unemployment now the french and germans are proposing to expand that with this new 500000000000. 00 package or a 500000000000. 00 euro package that you mentioned if they can go even further than that then i think that would be a Good Development for europe. Yeah i wonder if they can go further than that and you also wrote last month that e. U. Leaders they should unbind europe or they should risk europes demaio talk to me a little bit about what unbinding should look like in europe it. Well unbinding that were talking about in that context is there are a number of different constraints that are placed on europes ability to spend funds and the most important constraint are the constraints that are wrapped around the european stability mechanism which is the mechanism thats supposed to bail out sovereign states and the question is whether that mechanism can lend money without conditions and weve already seen of that possible so the unbinding has begun now were seeing another form of unbinding as the European Commission is allowed to take on debt against the multi annual Financial Framework i think thats an Important Development as well the question is whether we can scale up this level of activity necessary to meet in a manner necessary to respond to the scale of the crisis that we face professor do you foresee a future in which the the dutch and the greeks will be able to see eye to eye when it comes to dealing with National Finances National Budgets i mean will there ever be in this european project Common Ground or harmonization of any kind to me we still have these separate fiscal and monetary policies well i mean i dont think that the dudgeon the greeks are ever going to see eye to eye on a large number of things but i think that the differences in physical terms between the dutch and the greeks are probably smaller than they are between people who live in massachusetts and people who live in New Hampshire lets not forget in massachusetts they have income tax in New Hampshire they have very little tax at all and i mean end of the United States can hang together with that radical physical culture is living cheek by jowl but i think the European Union can live together with the differences that we see in the euro zone now well that if its so minor then how do you explain the resistance i mean the resistance is its almost in the d. N. A. Of northern europe. Well i mean i come from the south in the United States and their resistance to the federal government is pretty much baked into the d. N. A. As well and a lot scarier than it is here in europe the issue in the european context is the extent to which we can convince everybody that theyre all in one Economic Situation together in the end i think that that conviction is spreading that the french and the germans have come to this agreement is an important 1st sign all right eric jones of johns Hopkins University and below nya italy professor jones we appreciate your time and your insights tonight thank you thank you very much for having me. And you thought your trainers or your sneakers were expensive i want you to get a load of this the basketball shoes worn by the american hoops icon Michael Jordan have just sold at auction for more than half a 1000000. 00 thats right they look a bit Old Fashioned today as athletic shoes go but this pair was among the very 1st socalled air jordans made especially for the star of his 1st season in the n. B. A. Remember that i did sell the b. s auction house took advantage of the renewed hype surrounding jordan a documentary about Michael Jordan with the title the last dance in streaming right now on e. S. P. N. And netflix it is currently the most popular documentary in the world not bad when you get that kind of good p. R. Journalist k. J. Matthews joins me now from los angeles good to see you a. J. Im going to just start out by saying you are not allowed to ever again complain that high heels cost too much i mean half a 1000000. 00 for a pair of air jordans thats crazy isnt. I know unreal right it is crazy i mean yes youre right youre correct we do complain a lot we do spend a lot on shoes woman but Michael Jordan has a beat as of today i mean unreal you know somebody is not in the sneaker auctioning business until now you know before this sale for 560000. 00 u. S. Dollars for the michael air jordan tennis shoes they really had only sold another a pair of sneakers for about 437000. 00 obama last year and now yet now this is a record so it just goes to show you there is a huge fan base out there that loves Michael Jordan but who loves basketball and that collects sneakers we see that youre going to have a lot of money to collect those sneakers do. Talk to me about the timing of this and weve got Michael Jordans documentary that is now airing on e. S. P. N. And netflix. Yes yes well i dont know if you know but it is i think im told the most highest watch sports documentary as of now really in the world there are more people that have logged on to netflix and watched e. S. P. N. This documentary which is a 10 part series that chronicles the life of Michael Jordan in his last season with the indy 18 the Chicago Bulls and it is fascinating to see all that went into helping them when the kind of athlete that he was why he was so popular how he made his 1000000. 00 now 1000000000. 00 deals with nike and how he became a billionaire its fascinating and the last part of the series if i may go on actually aired here in the u. S. On sunday so the timing for this auction is Online Auction was southern these are yes perfect for the way to get the the maximum output there we understand the Michael Jordan demanded complete editorial a sortie over this documentary so can we really call it a documentary or is this more of a story told as jordan likes for it to be told. Its bo if you think about it i mean he is one of the most famous athletes in the world former athlete in the world but hes still extremely popular he is being the best in v. A. The best basketball player in the world so when you have the best basketball player in the world a man because currently worth 2100000000. 00 if you want to do a story that involves him and you want to interview him guess what youre going to have to play by his rules so im not surprised. You know hes from North Carolina my home state i grew up watching him play for the u. N. C. Tar heel so i mean ive seen wind of this fortune grow over the years and i want to i wonder how does this all sit there where you are in l. A. You got half a 1000000. 00 for old air jordans and the same time got people dying in a pandemic youve got People Living in a lockdown youve got these long lines and food basics how does that how do you square that circle. You know its very interesting here on the news locally about 2 weeks ago i believe the air jordan 5 were sold online and also sold in a couple of a Sneaker Stores around the u. S. And guess what even though we were in a lockdown even though that certain stores and malls were reopening in his last days there was a line even though the air jordans cost hundreds of dollars and where in the middle of a Global Pandemic people steal lined up to buy the latest versions of air jordans so yes were in the middle of a a pandemic yes were slowly reopening yes there are people out there who have lost jobs but it still hasnt slowed the demand down for the latest versions of these air jordans so i just dont know what will it take to make them not popular you know these air jordans have just been popular for more than 30 years you know the true i know what my grandmother would say but yours would say the same is she would say that Michael Jordan maybe should be a little embarrassed by this obscene price do you think yeah i would say the same thing but you know the thing about it is if you watch a documentary Michael Jordan is self admitted he was never very political he was never very much of an activist he is an exceptional basketball player and even Better Business and hes in the business to make money so whether its timing the right idea the sale he says he wants to sell his tennis shoes or his knickers to everybody here regardless of where you are circumstances are so thats probably would be his answer. By the vege that hes if hes always good saves good to talk with you good to get your insights take care and stay safe there in l. A. Thank you. All right the days almost done with the conversation continues online you can join us on twitter either you news you can follow me and t. V. And remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow dues another day will see that. Empty stadiums strict regulations the bundesliga has resumed after its coronavirus shutdown the decision is highly controversial and abuses questions how long can this go on in. Terms. Of the matches be in sport in china. To go. W. For preservation german businessman feel free pub still owns a large frantic wildlife park in zimbabwe the organizers of sustainable hunting tourism there other Animal Protection activists in zimbabwe say hunting should not be allowed and the danger of abuse is to bring out trophy hunting can save species. In 60 minutes on. When the rises cities will sink into the sea. 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