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Despair is may never go away 8 these are great for the Behavioral Changes we have all make to live with. Said dont do dont know one of us want to take 2020 could be the darkest winter in modern history. Also coming up if you are sick if youve lost your job if the pandemic has you panicking feeling like a stranger in an even stranger world we may have just want the doctor ordered. These. Ones who our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with americas whistleblower and the worlds Mental Health today dr rick braun one of the u. S. Is top immunologists testified before a Congressional Committee dr bright used to be director of the federal agency developing back scenes but he says he was fired last month for refusing to support the president s pandemic policies dr bright told lawmakers today that the administration has no master plan for ending this pandemic and he warned without major changes the u. S. Faces a deadly future the darkest winter in modern history and the white house has dismissed dr bright as a disgruntled employee now at the same time there was a new disturbing prediction for the entire world today the United Nations is warning that the pandemic is not only impacting our physical health but also our Mental Wellbeing months of isolation anxiety added to unemployment and fears of poverty threaten to cause a global Mental Health crisis a world in lockdown and its people headed for a breakdown here is the u. N. Secretary general you terry. Mental problems including the pressure in the society are some of the greatest cause of misery in our world the covered 1000. 00 pandemic is now we think families and communities we divisional mental stress those most at risk front line else workers older people a dollar sense and young people those with preexisting Mental Health conditions and those caught up in conflict and crisis lockdowns and quite in times must not the screaming made against those with poor Mental Health. As we cover from the pandemic we must shift to more Mental Health services of the community and make sure Mental Health is included in universal Health Coverage there was the head of the United Nations there speaking for more im joined tonight by isabella horns or call your head of the department of psychiatry here in berlin at the shards a hospital doctors good to have you back on the day what are you hearing from from patients what are your colleagues saying is this pandemic is it making us mentally ill. Well it does it it is it is actually taking a toll on all of us and that is you know normal but and that were all worried and but we will get through this i think however those vulnerable groups the elderly the mentally ill to begin with our patients. Younger people middle aged people who might be losing their jobs or who have already lost their jobs and their businesses who are facing economic and then also health care especially in the United States Health Care Worries those people will certainly be affected you know as much as they will develop depressive syndromes and depression leads to you know not only mental. Mental suffering but also physical suffering and addiction might increase so its really a vicious cycle here between mental and physical illness and a cycle social well being you know we hear almost every day that once a vaccine is developed all of our pandemic problems will be solved do you agree. Well it depends i think when this vaccine will be a bailable if if if the vaccine will what the book seems will certainly have a tremendous beneficial effect yes i do agree with that no no no no doubt about that but if this goes up if the big scene takes a longer time to develop if we get affected way if we maybe have to go back into lockdown or if lots of more will die. And more and more misery in terms of economic ms we also will ensue then im really worried about the whole well the state of the world actually i want you to take a listen to these 2 very sobering observations about the pandemic and all of us taking the emergency fatigue sit ins depreciate gains we have made against this virus reports of distrust in a photo piece and conspiracy thinking or fueling movements against social and physical distancing mistrust resistance to measures a desire to guard for the behavior changes we have old mate to live because at 19 vincent dont devote no one of us want to take i think it is important every realistic and i dont think anyone can predict when or if this disease will disappear its myras may become just another endemic virus in our communities and this why this may never go away this virus may never go away i mean the warning is that there may be no end to this viral threat d how do we keep it together doctor in our minds knowing that we may be forever at the mercy if you will of this pathogen. Well i dont think you should be that has a mystic concerning resilience and also. A lot there are a lot of reasonable people who will still feel that they have somewhat of a control about their behavior who are not falling for the conspiracy. Theories and who are really reasonable who will have will practice physical distancing and increase their social. Being to gether you know. Telecommunications virtual in so. I think and i do believe that science will figure out a vaccine within a reasonable time but until then we really have to see to live with the we have to live with the virus and its actually problematic because we feel so out of control there is a there is not a unifying theme like you would have when there would be a war against an enemy i mean people are saying this is like a war no it is not like it war because its not a unifying enemy in a in a sense it is nothing we can touch and its nothing where we can say ok im going to do that and that and then this thing will go away thats not what it is we have to trust science to get in a vaccine which is really really important and until then we should all it here to washing our hands frequently covering our nose and mouth and earth. Having physical distance you know the social diseases going to snip its very important other then i guess fear for our health and our will being theres also the stress of extreme isolation for some people or extreme togetherness for people in the lockdown families having to stay in the same apartment for weeks and months at the same time are we humans are we made for either. No we are actually not we are actually not we all with we need intimacy emotional closeness intimacy but we also need. This feeling you know im not fenced in i have freedoms i can go i can see see Something Else im im im the actor of my act and i have agency and yes i mean there are a lot of poor families who live in cramped quarters there are a lot of dysfunctional families where addiction and Domestic Violence is is prevalent so thats thats highly problematic and there are the elderly who are living in Nursing Homes or all by themselves just by themselves count have visitors nobodys coming i mean there are people dying in hospitals without their loved ones on their side although i think now at least in in germany this has been you know a nuisance and a bit so that if youre really in the hospital and elderly you can have visitors now all right doctor. Which is important visitors is very important. So if you call here joining us tonight from here in berlin as always dr we appreciate your insights thank you very much. Youre welcome good night for. Infectious disease specialists are telling is that we are at the beginning not the end of this pandemic and that is important to remember as countries around the world loosen walk downs and reopen their economies now the goal is to achieve a balance between our desire for our normal life and our need to contain the virus its not easy to do and it is easy to lose again and again in lebanon people are once again living in lockdown after the number of new corona virus infections surged in and out and in lockdown is that going to be the new normal. After weeks of closures people in lebanon had finally begun to savor a gradual return to normal restaurants and cafes has started operating at reduced capacity shops and hairdressers had to reopen their doors to customers but a jump in new cases 100 over 4 days brought the reopening to a sudden halt. The government announced a 4 day long total lockdown exempt only 2 essential sectors like health and agriculture once again people are being told to stay at home the hope is that a short lockdown will be enough to stop the virus from spreading further but not everyone agrees. With. What a 4 days of lockdown going to do against the coronavirus the virus is here the real aim should be to guarantee peoples basic needs this is a miserable country. About a. Weeks of coronavirus restrictions have taken a toll on lebanon is already fragile economy food prices have soared triggering protests calling for the government to intervene but the need to contain the virus has trumped the looming financial crisis at least for the duration of the lock down lebanons backward slide could be in store for other countries as they navigate their way through the pandemic temporary lock downs followed by reopening to avoid a 2nd wave of corona virus cases. You know the new normal in and. Joined by dr cortines an epidemiologist at the hospital here in berlin hes also director of the institute for Public Health in berlin there to court its good to have you on the show what do you say are we now beginning this roller coaster. Its a good question and i think it all depends on us and it depends on how the infection actually is turning out in the future i think that since were opening up over the last days and weeks that the numbers have been stabilizing so i think thats a good thats a good news to actually give to people we also have to understand that we need to focus very much on identifying the clusters that occur and really isolating those clusters as well as being able to trace to people who have been in contact so other than thinking of everybody in lockdown everybody down opening up and then theyre going to lock down it is better to think of to identify clusters regional clusters and then deal with those clusters i think in many regions in germany we have very good numbers right now in outer regions we have to clusters so i think that it is important to really start working with the virus and we think it will be. Attacked is in a way that we can deal with as few of them being afraid that we have a complete lockdown and a complete opening and so forth and so on i want you to take a listen to what dr rick bright hes an immunologist in the u. S. What he told the u. S. Lawmakers today take a listen if we fail to improve our response now based on science i fear the pandemic will get worse and be prolonged there will be likely a resurgence of covert 19 this fall and we greatly compound it by the challenges of seasonal influenza without better planning 2020 could be the darkest winter in modern history so obviously hes talking about the u. S. Situation but he mentioned influenza what will happen this fall and winter when flu season begins enjoy this corona virus pandemic. Now obviously this will be a difficult combination if you have several. Hitting the population and we have to be aware and were learning every day and i think we have to well be prepared for that and watching these numbers very carefully to corona virus will stay with us for likely years to come so we really have to deal with it and certainly there is a risk of a 2nd wave or 3rd wave in diffuser but also we are getting ready you have reported about the development of vaccinations and so did many scientists trying to understand how we can deal with this but if we are trying to live alive as before certainly that will become problematic fall and winter season. I want to ask you about the approaching summer if travel restrictions if they are lifted here in europe and people take vacations is that going to increase the likelihood of the new surge in infections i mean will our holiday travels trigger new lock downs difficult to really predict precisely of course if you have a mingle of a relation if you travel you go to other regions and you allow people maybe to get to your country theres a risk that if i was with spread again and those who are infected and dont have symptoms yet will actually infect other people so theres a certain risk about on the other hand we have to understand that we need to travel differently in the future and potentially protecting ourselves and others so that some sort of travel will be possible certainly not immediately the way we are now going to travel. For example like in the last year dr court epidemiologist at the starting hospital here in berlin and director of the institute for Public Health in berlin. We appreciate your insights tonight thank you my pleasure have a good night. Sharon oh yeah oh yeah. This is just home. That evening. Theres a. Phrase. As song about home in a time when more people than ever before are being forced to confront their notion of home and belonging all things of course to the coronavirus of the video we just saw was a project of the jerusalem youth corps a course that brings young people from east and west jerusalem together in song and at the same time creates a space for dialogue between palestinians and israelis you saw my next guest in that video j y cs founder micah handler who joins me tonight from washington my kids good to have you back on the day you were on the show what was it about a month ago to talk about the kooris and talk to me about the course and this video. Sure thanks so much for having me back its really a pleasure. So the gerson is corus interested very well our an Israeli Palestinian youth choir and Dialogue Program bringing together folks from east and west jerusalem who otherwise would really have no opportunities to meet certainly at eye level and become friends and create something beautiful together in this kind of artistic fashion whats interesting about this video of home is harlem is one of these songs that weve been singing for years and its really one of the anthems of the chorus but in this age really takes on a new meaning as people as you said are stuck at home and thinking about what that means and what home means and really the question is also how you can still create shared space when physically you need to be distinct from other people so how can you still bring people together how can you still create community and we were going to make a video of home of us from our homes as like a cute idea and a way of keeping our singers connected and then one of our volunteers for many years before actually asked me for the sheet music of home because he wanted to sing it and i thought you know what why dont we open this video to everyone in our global family and then why dont we just open it up to anyone and so we ended up with this huge video of people from all over the world and i also used this chance to reach out to these different artists and weve had the chance to work with over the years from david bros. Me to actors from animal to and you tube stars and just asked anyone if they wanted to be part of this project and we ended up with this amazing unique collaboration that in any other era wouldnt necessarily have happened you know when i was watching you. Remember the 2 things that made me think that this is kind of like the zooming modern version of the live aid for africa project. Did you get that kind of feeling. Yeah well i think theres something really beautiful about people coming from different walks of life together to spread a common message through music i think thats a timeless you know expression of humanity its a way that humans have always been and i think in this era were now thinking about space and our relationships to one another very differently and that obviously has a lot of challenge but it also poses a lot of opportunity in the same way that were now much further apart from the person down the street or the person in our city or in our country you know we cant see then were now equally distant from everyone around the globe on line. And i think that is an interesting. Opportunity to explore and deepen yeah i mean its a great idea its a great video and were going to listen to the video more in just a 2nd. Its been great to have you on the program were going to close the show tonight was more of your home video but im going to get you to help me in just a 2nd the day is almost done the conversation that continues online you can join us on twitter either w news you can follow me or brit go off t. V. And remember whatever happens between now and then. Tomorrow is another day tomorrow is another day well see you then everybody. It. Could say show it here yeah oh yeah. This is holy somebody weve had broke her little sister to her this is me now what i love. Most about her my family they are. Going to use my home how do you like this from the complaint. Cited to everyone because this is just holding. Me sees these to. Her. I. Guess. I. Eat his im going to take this that is the. I i. I. Feel close. Leave. Me. Cold. Luck. Luck. A or they. Can sleep slowly. Into the complex. Sounds. Maria has been hailed as a model country in bringing this corona virus infection rate under control but the methods have raised privacy and public shaming concerns and now there are reports that the virus is back again my guest this week is south Korean Foreign minister can children often cause her government means too many compromises on citizens privacy in its efforts to contain the pandemic conflict zones of 60. Next song w t. O. Its a deadly sin. And the whim of nature. Motivates us. And threatens to ruin us. Greed. The insatiable desire to know. The motives that drives our own moral codes are. Not good enough ive come to oppose come to listen because i see the harm is done to the world while south of the top. I would say that selfishness and accumulation of material goods is really a sump pump of fear we literally run the risk of being the 1st formal quiets to be responsible for all the expansion. Going on we should we go in search of answers in a documentary show. Stars may 21st t. W. We realize that we will never be able to go back to life precode at 19 we have to live with this risk privacy is a very important human rights but it is not an absolute right to have you sacrifice calls to improve human rights in order to keep the dialogue going what you keep saying concerned were not concerned south korea has been hailed as a model country in bringing its corona virus infection rate under control but the methods have raised privacy and public shaming concerns and now there are reports that the virus is back again my guest this week is south korean for