Way out. Also have. A long way to go but i think its going to be decisive. Also in the very fears of the pandemic spreading that leads kenya to people from entering refugee camps housing 400000 people. There is a lot of fear we cant sleep and disrespected theres not much work we pray to god that there will be no criminal cases here. But its the 1st day of a new month but the story dominating the headlines remains the same tens of thousands of people are contracting covered 19 every day many survive the disease more than 230000 have died many countries now believe the peak of the disease has passed an increasing number of governments are cautiously beginning to ease their lockdowns but theres still no vaccine and no proven therapy for curing covered 19 so what could be a Pivotal Moment for many of us is a timely warning from the World Health Organization. The corporate 19 crisis has illustrated that even the most sophisticated know systems. To cope with a pandemic w 2 has grave concerns about the potential impact the virus could have as it starts to accelerate in countries was weak and the systems so as governments around the world declare their infection peaks flattened pandemics manageable and past the worst what will a new corona future look like well done if indeed quick is adjunct professor of Global Health at 2 universities of Global Health institute in the United States hes also a former chair of the Global Health council and author of the book the end of epidemics the booming threats to humanity and how to stop it joins us from durham North Carolina welcome to the w. I like to start in africa theres a really interesting infection a map from Johns Hopkins university this shows quite a mucked a difference in infection rates and numbers between europe and africa which has a significant number of weak Health Care Systems why do you think thats the case well 1st of all we have to ask how do we decide that there is an infection and when we look at the rate of testing in the countries in africa per per 1000000 population its its a fraction of what it is in in europe and north america so the 1st question is are we getting all the cases and we were certainly are not getting all the cases but the reality is its there and it will be a real challenge for we kill systems. Ok so its there and its coming we heard from the World Health Organization today that it is worried about the increasing rate of infection across the continent countries like China New Zealand south korea austria germany theyre all starting cautiously to loosen their Movement Restrictions where would you say the world is in this pandemic well its a Different Countries are in different places in that and even in the u. S. We have countries that are still receiving state senator vitter increasing we have states that are decreasing and states that are plateaued so overall worldwide was still pretty close to a plateau with notably a handful of countries that you mentioned that have really ringback seen a significant decline in and have gotten on top of that so little time did i say so overall you expect in general terms its still to get what you dont think the world is past the worst yet. Well. Globally we may be past the worst but the point is being past the work the worst and being at a sort of a steady state where we can open up the economy without refueling the the epidemic thats the challenge because the reality is that the vast majority of us probably 90 or 95 percent of us are still vulnerable we havent been infected we arent immune the virus hasnt changed because we we if we can for social distancing for a period of time so we need to open up very cautiously and have anough testing to really catch the recur breaks which which will have it its inevitable that as we loosen up and weve seen already in a few countries there will be some recurrent outbreaks and we need to test those quickly and i think to have a look at the role of the World Health Organization in this because i know you have a background in and dealing with the movie themes Multi National agencies went when you look at the w. H. O. Which seems to have responsibilities but no power its funded by countries more likely to put National Interests ahead of what you might call the worlds best interests how much do you see politics getting in the way of sensible Public Health policy. Well yes internationally there are some of that but also we in countries when politics gets in the way and particularly if it if it gridlocks action i mean what you need in a pandemic is a war mindset you need a general you need a the your top officers you agree on the strategy and you pursue it collectively as as one state one province one country one world and its that collective leadership thats lacking and gets whats happening. The concerns about the World Health Organization and the authority of the country need to come together it needs to be within the e. U. But of the g 7 the g 20 they need to come together collectively the the World Health Organization can provide great professional expert advice and monitoring but the political leaders need to come together and say were going to have a plan to open up and coordinate worldwide so you dont think the w. H. O. Needs more power well i needed it has the authority to. Call Global Health emergencies it yes if it had more power if countries had given it more power to actually set the rules and all that that could make it more effective its been its been extremely effective in ringing alarm getting information out already had a cut within a week after this was 1st called they were already thinking ahead to africa and other parts of the world that that had been hit and how to start getting them prepared. So looking at ahead a towards the back end of a spoon say the world is going to get over because he does look like this is going to be around for some time to come what do you think of the lessons that show that will be learned from this rather than those that should. Well the lessons it will be learned is is whether people remember and what i what i say to people is remember this moment remember how you feel to see your gayborhood locked off to see your children totally frustrated to see the future of if you remember this moment because its going to be us collectively holding our leaders a car accountable to do the things that Public Health leaders and scientists know could be done and if they had been done could well have kept this local outbreak local and not let it explode global the way it s good talking to you thank you so much for joining us i dont have an a day quick from Duke University thank you. But the government of kenya has banned entry to 2 of the countrys biggest refugee camps because of concerns about coronavirus aid workers say it would be catastrophic if the disease took hold in the camps which was more than 400000 people a groups are warning that the camps lack the Health Infrastructure to cope with an outbreak the w. C. Reports. You know a place miles away from home this group of vulnerable refugees is facing an unknown enemy. Its the fear that keeps this up but night see the mohammedans a disadvantage of violence and drugs in neighboring somalia before arriving in this crowded field you come more than 25 years ago. There is a lot of fear we cant sleep and just restricted theres not much work you pray to god that there will be no criminal cases here because if the virus reaches us i dont think a lot of people will survive. A concern it could buy you and its the u. N. Refugee agency which has called for a large unseen funding to help displaced people though there have been no confirmed cases of the virus here yet the existing conditions would will it spread to half of us do we all live very close to each other to certain people live in one camp section this includes children of the lead people with diabetes and high Blood Pressure that could become a big problem a tragedy also one that. Many of the refugees seem more concerned about their livelihoods than the virus itself. But what have. You just had to be glad there are so many businesses have closed how do i run a small shop but im also been affected its really hard for us to make ends meet it seems like were not making any money i said. But on the whole is a much more satisfying. Problem what i have. And im like most people here i follow the news and social media very closely corona can be prevented by washing your hands covering your face with a mask and if youre feeling unwell youre seeing a doctor was someone you can take a. If you. Know you see this very much to believe that the virus could be stopped everyone plays their part. In south africa has begun to ease its coronavirus lock down one of the strictest in the world factories and agricultural businesses will be allowed to reopen in phases restaurants can also open but only for deliveries for many South Africans though perhaps the best news is that they can resume limited activity outside in the fresh. South africans can exercise outside again for the 1st time in more than a month its a relief for many you can bike right or even some handstands. If. You do it as. I do do something it feels good to be back we dont you dont actually actually take for granted i mean if you look at the. Do the save the day. 5 weeks ago the countrys president ordered most citizens to remain indoors and shuttered all but essential businesses as part of the response to the pandemic its been one of the strictest lockdowns in the world and doesnt result many people have been struggling to make ends meet. Or now when i get this good life in bed up because im not working. Now. Im feeling good today when im. Wanted table although the looked and seems to have been affective there have been dozens of complaints about Police Brutality when implementing it the United Nations has expressed concern about the heavy handedness as the country slowly americas from lock down south africa now faces the challenge of boosting its economy which was already in recession before the coronavirus struck. Lets get the latest from cape town that and join correspondent Andrea Creech welcome adrienne the government has this delicate balance to strike between restarting the economy and containing the pandemic just walk us through its approach so basically they introduce a lockdown in 5 stages that will be constantly adjusted depending on the growth of corona virus infections that we started 45. 00 weeks was stage 5 for the strictest level and the best case in the next weeks we might go back to stage one which would mean most people could get back to work but at the moment its stage 4 and that means still no sales of cigarettes no sales of alcohol only a few industries are allowed to get back to work and also only a limited capacity so its still quite a long way to go youve also seen the exercising pictures there before and you saw some shortcomings there as well 6 to 9 oclock is a very limited time obviously in cape town the sun is rising at 7 30 in the morning so you basically had one of the half hours where almost everybody tried to get out which obviously lets do some pictures as you have seen of congestion which shouldnt be the case at this point of time but generally i would say the society here in south africa is quite divided about the strict measures you have half of the population roughly saying well it is very important government must protect us and must do everything they can to stop this outbreak and on the other hand you have more and more people also arguing that well yes coronavirus is a problem but we also hungry and this is a modern problem for us. Around the world what weve seen is that inequality plays a big part in how hard this coronaviruses strikes whats the situation there in south africa. Absolutely its mainly the poor that suffer under this lockdown here and the treasury has announced that probably 3 to 6 or 7000000 even people might lose their job because of this outbreak depending how long this whole crisis will last or this is going to of course have a lot of negative impact on the Economic Situation on the situation of a lot of people here but overall i think theres also a little bit of optimism that people will get a bit closer together because ive observed here many times neighborhood initiatives all over the place people trying to help each other trying to help the less privileged and i hope that actually this crisis might bring people closer together and not further apart. And one of the challenges facing the country as it tries to open up again well i mean the major challenge is that basically the numbers will keep on growing Health Experts here expect the 1st peak to reach between july and september so in the beginning south africa was praised globally for their strict and approach to to really have the street blocked and to bring the numbers down but we will only see then if that was really successful if they could use this time to fix the Health System which was basically collapsing over the past 2 years under increase in capetown thank you. And one group particularly affected by the covered 19 pandemic is Health Workers in addition to physical exhaustion doctors nurses and carers also have to deal with the emotional strain of seeing so many people die so also risking their own lives because of a lack of personal protective equipment next to bridport looks at the difficulties faced by community Health Workers in india who suddenly find themselves on the front line for an extra 12 euros a month. Every morning this is how dodging the debris gets ready to vote. For she has to protect herself Tim Scott Anaheim watched must as she was its homes in her neighborhood to check her symptoms will never. Be doing is an accident to social Health Activist in india also known as an. In addition to demean her community her educators asha workers have now been deployed as the very 1st line of defense in indias fight against school with 19. To return assigned area where she conducts sobeys with other workers rajan has to even visit our farms by area called red zones where new models positive pieces of the wires have been detected despite this she has been provided with only one mosque that she washes and uses every day. Most are shell workers also cannot afford protective equipment on their own. Does that make it or not if government would have it i gather the 1st time when i was made to visit a red zone i had never gloves nor a mask we received just 33 rupees a day the government treats us worse than bonded labor. You have with us from the Carter Family on the. Other russia workers have also at times been forced to visit just curious without gloves marks and sanitizer. Some of them have refused to work as a consequence the Indian Government has promised insurance cover for each Health Worker on the front lines of code 19 but that is only if they die in the line of duty. The actual workers are not insured if they fall ill with coronavirus the Delhi Government however tells us that they are ensuring a regular supply of protective equipment to all the frontline Health Workers but workers like arjun are not the only ones struggling to reach people without sufficient protective gear this is one of hundreds of Community Clinics in delhi these primary Health Centers run by the State Government have been especially important in providing health care in underserved areas now they play an Important Role in the capital in the struggle against the spread of the virus while the doctors at these clinics are equipped with basic protective gear day to run a risk of contracting forward 19 from in symptomatic areas this doctor wanted his Name Withheld because he feels professional just a question of 100 percent risk. 100 percent risk because there may be asymptomatic patients coming to us who have not been tested we too can be asymptomatic carriers we should get tested this meeting. With a number of cases in india still on the Rise CommunityHealth Workers like large and have a tough task ahead. When everything we might also be infected something we do want to work on but not by putting our lives at stake at midon divide as dragon passes by this red zone every day to conduct her duties she and many Health Workers like her breathing a life and death threat. German chancellor Angela Merkel and french president Emmanuel Mccraw have thrown their support behind efforts to raise billions of euros to Fund Research into a Coronavirus Vaccine they use convening a donors conference that next week in an effort to raise 7 and a half 1000000000 Euros European Commission president sort of on the line says the goal of the fund is to develop a widely available vaccine treatments and tests at an affordable price. As scientists around the world race to develop a vaccine the e. U. Is trying to rally Global Support in the fight against corona virus in an interview with details Commission PresidentUrsula Vaughan the lion called for a cool water in a city approach have to build up capacities to manufacture it zillions of those and then we have to make sure that we can deploy to every corner in the world in a fair and affordable price and thats what exactly were working on for that we need money and we need to go global corporation. The pandemic is also putting a strain on state finances countries like italy and spain want support in the shape of socalled corona bones effectively shared debt between eurozone countries but illustrating the blocks north south divide the plan for each use solidarity has met opposition from germany and the netherlands. In the whole instrument we will have certainly the right balance of loans and grants this is the process where we have to negotiate with all 27. Amber stayed of course and i think this is democracy we have to speak about the detailing out the tailor made programs but all i do agree that it is important to support the countries that are hardest hit by the virus and the economic consequences. The majority of e. U. Countries have declared states of emergency in a bid to contain the virus but the lion had a warning for any government seeking to abuse those powers. Were looking very closely to how these measures are implemented when it comes to the European Values indeed the freedom of speech the freedom of media for example so we stand ready to intervene immediately if this is not appropriate and time limited for now the priority remains saving lives and stopping the spread of vaccine the key to some kind of return to normality. The chinese develop Artificial Intelligence and augment Reality Technology has found a new focus in the Global Pandemic the company has developed a pair of glasses to help screen for coronavirus symptoms in so the device will be able to screen several people at once in crowded environments like shopping malls and pause. What if you could see the coronavirus and help stop it spread one Chinese Tech Company is trying to make that happen rocket has created a pair of a commented reality glasses that enable the waiter to reach temperatures from metres away. Compared with the thermometer its more convenient and we can keep a safe distance. Glasses have an infrared sensor and a camera and theyre in demand around a 1000 payers have already been sold to government offices and schools the president of this office park says its even getting rid of its fixed their moment or stands and using the glasses instead for employee temperature checks. With more new products coming out especially these glasses we think we can use them to do contactless temperature measurement they are very efficient when faced with a big crowd of people and. Their mill Imaging Systems made by face recognition giant sense time have already been installed in real the stations across china rocket a startup says its never up creating this model so that the device can take multiple temperature readings similar. In crowded areas wherever and whenever people can get together again. And finally singapore zoo is close to the public in order to curb the spread of coronavirus its penguins been able to roam the premises without visitors getting in the way to stuff the trying to keep them entertained during the lockdown so they take the african penguins are a regular to explore and conquer areas like the childrens playground. And that was the day i was ever the conversation continues online you can find us on twitter. 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