Transcripts For DW Mugabe 20240713

Who did give me a little did they do swear that i really and truly loves that were. The ones. Who are going to came to power as a Freedom Fighter and were at war with the instruments i dont believe in regard to your theory but. Not in the stars in years we have tried to be spending the past people got locked up people got shot everyone suster their hopes and dreams for a new Zimbabwe Mugabe inspired a nation and brutalized and tortured tens of thousands of people and one of his biggest legacy was that he led the country into Economic Disaster i think what that being destroyed everything that could have been just cried and said Democratic Society in zimbabwe. Could have been the next national mandela. After more than 50 years of colonial british rule rhodesia known today as zimbabwe was pushing for independence from britain the British Government was prepared to work towards this with the rhodesians but only on the basis of no independence before majority rule meaning britain would not recognise rhodesia as independence before a majority rule was implemented as opposed to rule by the white colonial minority unhappy with britains conditions and the rising black nationalist movement the ruling white settler minority voted in the 1st rhodesian born Prime Minister conservative rhodesian front leader Ian Smith Smith set rhodesia on a path to independence this is something were going to do the stuff that they do their intention to maintain real danger. That we all know so. In 1965 he proclaims the unilateral declaration of independence a move that was denounced by british Prime Minister Harold Wilson and the International Community. Mr wilsons answer to the declaration of independence has been do i draw the additional government owned up or is it through economic sanctions one of the most Ominous Development in the few days that the feed of this illegal action has been the progressive creation of a police state in the shape. Of. The black african majority now saw nothing for themselves in this white ruled rhodesia paving the way for conflict which would soon become open warfare it was incidents of racist policies that started this war which led to thousands of mostly blots and dying in this war the liberation. People were shot up or the white. And there wasnt one person. He represented a Brighter Future for zimbabwe he was seen as this fearless Freedom Fighter he managed to change the narrative and people in africa love him for that. Robert mugabe was born in 1924. In what was then the colony of Southern Rhodesia mugabe was a gifted boy and even trained as a teacher in his early teens. 4 years later a scholarship took him to south africa to complete further training it was here that mugabe became interested in politics attending political rallies. He was influenced by gandhi teachings and his time at university in south africa at the same university that nelson mandela. Was turning point in his life. By 960 a yearning for freedom from white rule consumed mcgarvie so much that he quit teaching to devote himself full time to the cause. Here aligned himself with the n. D. P. The National Democratic party led by joshua in the fight against ian smith. Mcgarvie spoke of african nationalism land and liberation and openly called for a guerilla war against the ruling elite in december 963. 00 he was arrested as an agitator he actually spent more than a decade as a political prisoner. Meanwhile some were growing frustrated with what they saw as a lack of action on the part of income oh and his party a new Political Party called zanu the Zimbabwe African National union was created and mugabe was appointed secretary general in absentia in those early days when he joined politics popularity started to grow he was seen as. A figurehead because of his Leadership Qualities and also because he was an orator he spoke. So he was able to explain. What. You were seen as. Dictators sell themselves to the public as a man of the people who will solve their problems quickly and rapidly without all the other past you know wars that are soon. Politicians and thats why people trust. Blacks made up 95 percent of rhodesians population and they now had Robert Mugabe officially fighting their cause. Thats the. One guy. For mugabe there was only one way to deal with smith we are at war with the smith. And the war must continue and. To tell the British Government and then that. They that he. Before you surrendered. Are fighting his will continue. To combat in smiths despotic and racist policies mugabe formed an allegiance with in comal together they set their Guerrilla Army on smiths Rhodesian Security forces escalating into what became known as the rhodesian bush war farms owned by whites were attacked while civil unrest erupted in towns and cities we have tried passive resistance in the past our people got rocked up our people got shot. Various attempts were made by the british and americans to end the violence but talks ended in a stalemate smith refused to back down from his opposition to black majority rule there is some sign that the white producers are willing to accept pretty much of an early vote to georgia rule until next principle has been accepted but what would you change the British Government not to intend to kill another initiative and thats photosphere United States are they really full support. Good reception of negotiation. And a greater majority in the future i dont believe in majority rule ever. Not in a sows year we havent come here to cause this to be about this is for we come here to determine whether we shall be free or not talks broke down and on the ground violent clashes became more frequent and widespread this is one of the latest atrocities in the guerrilla war it happened last month at a british run mission known tali in eastern ready. 12 whites including missionaries their wives and children were dragged into a nearby field and murdered with the savagery that was horrifying even by the standards of this brutal 6 year war the butcher it was widely assumed to be the work of guerrillas belonging to Robert Mugabes son which is based across the border in mozambique. After 15 years of fighting the british attempted to bring an end to the violence once and for all on the 21st of december 1979 the lancaster house agreement was signed in london it stipulated the creation of a new country to be known as the republic of zimbabwe it was subject to 2 conditions firstly ceasefire would be declared secondly democratic elections would be held to form a new government. The black nationalist groups zanu and suffering who had been waging the increasing violent insurgency put forward candidates standing for is up who was joshua and co mo and for zanu comos ally Robert Mugabe. If we had. To. Go it was. A different expression of the wishes. Of. The one the majority making him zimbabwes 1st Prime Minister. Gabriel. That. I bet. To zimbabwe and. Everyone. Wins because of for the 1st time we had black majority to rule in the country to jim the power of a moment of National Crisis and change with zimbabwe attained its independence and people vested their hopes and dreams that he would create this new fresh zimbabwe that would deliver for the people he brought home to nation that had suffered for a long time and. Seen and he was a very charismatic leader. Mugabes rhetoric was exactly what the people of zimbabwe wanted to hear it mean floyd struggle to achieve political independence we must employ back political independence to achieve Economic Freedom most dictators inevitably are corrupt though they may initially try to act in the nations interests power always crops so in the case of gabi he started off investing in education in health care in infrastructure. Everyone vested their hopes and dreams for a new zimbabwe and dictators exploit vulnerabilities so you have somebody like me gabi who splits the end of colonialism and brings in a new form of government and absolutely transforms the system in a heartbeat. But it wasnt long before power and paranoia went to mccartneys head he was sacked accused of plotting to overthrow him removing komo was mugabes 1st step to uncontested rule and dictatorship. The key to survival for any dictatorship is finding out where the threats are and nullifying those threats as quickly as possible. 980 zimbabwe was finally free from both british and white green thanks to the man hailed as a Freedom Fighter and man of the people Robert Mugabes. Name was euphoria in the country independence just finally zimbabwe always free and people were free to do what in where they wanted and they really hope that in the National News to deliver on the promises. But while the black population were enjoying new opportunities cracks were already forming within the political sphere there was a lot of apparent animosity between certain members of your party and his party. There is no such thing as most of the dogs are the people that we dont have. Existing between you and your. Hatred. A spirit of hostility towards you. Invited him to join my government accepted it. Was. The tensions mirror. Boys divided political allegiances. Just ruin comos she lost the political battle in parliament against Robert Mugabes zanu faction but in his massive billy homeland and como support was challenged and captured weapons showed that some followers of a coma went prepared to accept the an easy status quo. To secure the loyalty of both his rivals and people mugabi focused his attention on building up the army. Life in the regular army will be quite different to that in the guerrilla units. About 25000 guerrillas have so far been formed into battalions the socalled super sausage machine is processing about 3000 men a month the training isnt comprehensive but merely the 1st stage right why oh why so i felt. At the top the 6 most senior positions in the new army are divided equally among the 3 factions. That he wanted to project an image and story and he did this by providing funding to the military he needed to keep the military happy to prevent them from staging a coup against but he also wanted to show to the world that zimbabwe was a strong country with a strong military. Be spared no expense. This large army has already put a strain on the economy there arent enough barracks for the men yet the government is already spending a 5th of its budget on defense when the integration process is complete the new Zimbabwean Army will number between 6065000 men this is an enormous and expensive regular force for a country with a poppy. Of 7000000 military rebels against them theyre in trouble if you mean in uganda was aware of this he came to power in a coup so he knew a coup could replace him they have to coupe proof the regime they have to weaken the military did this by creating parallel armies that could offset the power of the national. Guard even brought the north Korean Forces to train his infamous crack unit the 5th brigade he didnt hesitate in putting his new army to use. Beginning in 1983 thousands of people in the provinces loyal to him como were killed in what were known as the massacres Prime Minister Robert Mugabe is determined to wipe out of position in much of the labor. Party and its leader joshua Government Troops swept through northern much of the land looking for the socalled supporters of joshua thousands are believed to have died or sustained horrific injuries during that search sadly in just a few years the freedom to change from one who helped to remove this and brutal white minority government to actually brutalizing is people mugabe had a huge Security Apparatus and used them as a tool against his opponents he used them to kill over 20000 people and use them to torture and to brutalize anyone who opposed and. Numerous talks held between mugabe and in como to end the bloodshed broke down. In regard to this relationship im sorry to say we have been deadlocked full. On the question of unity the Central Committee of my body is a recently decided that the talks be discontinued for the d no useful purpose i have suffered. For this country. For. Oh work song. To make it stick and this. Traitor. Meant for this country so much. Inside this war by 987 an estimated 20000 people from the ethnic minority have been killed this violence largely ended after mugabe and in como signed the unity according to simba 987 zanu and merged to become zanu p f bringing mugabe one step closer to his ultimate goal. The merger of zanu and was a recognition of the need to submerge traditional philosophical differences and unite the country. But it also fitted in with mugabes ambitions he had long expressed the wish to create a one party state that was tied to a more democratic system during the 7 year lifespan of the lancaster house agreement. I think that this biggest threat was hidden self you know while he was in power and hes really. The opposition had been weakened over the years and and silenced to some extent. The most dangerous type of dictatorship is a curse or ship or one man and thats because theres no institution to check their power in these dictators tend to make their decision in isolation in the case of a babby he was trying to personalize the regime he was trying to make every decision on his own and he almost a cheap that. In late 1987 the position of Prime Minister was abolished and mugabe became president within como as Vice President mugabe was edging closer to one man rule but he did make some concessions all that remained was to find a way to appease all right. The hummus is up to dissidents and that too was a joke. Government decided to grab the general atmosphere the following judge agrees on one visit to. The political field to jeeves road just as 3 persons under the to general imprisonment for our internet. And como was no longer a threat but mugabe needed to maintain the loyalty of his people. Usually dictators are able to stay in power to a point without using violence so long as they control the flow of information the public could know called the press the louvin press the lying press he said that anyone who stood up to his narrative was effectively lying to the public he called them the enemy of the people that were echoed by mao and stalin and so this idea that anyone who says anything that the dictator doesnt agree with is lying that there are some sort of force against the people its a common tactic to turn the public against those sources the challenge the dictator mugabi exiled critical zimbabwean journalists and foreign media was strictly controlled or banned its the mugabe governments efforts to close down the press both foreign and domestic plain and simple they dont want a Critical Press they dont want a critical overseas press and so theyre trying to stop. Has over the years managed to stay in power by controlling the media. Be shut down all but one Television Channel and heavily censored its output. During his rule that there was no freedom of movement no freedom of speech freedom of expression as generalised many a time you know just trying to have a demonstration you also get quartette and get beaten up or i reseated you have to control the media because once you control the news. Of once you control the information the public consumes you can control how they think about problems. They also take control of independent sources of information by shutting them off to the public and that means state media it means shutting down press outlets to criticize them and it means jailing their opponents and this way theres not really an alternative narrative for the opposition to exploit because theyve already been silenced the. Other areas of society were also beginning to feel the pinch in 1996 strict austerity measures prompted Civil Servants nurses and Junior Doctors to strike over poor pay. Despite the economic crisis at home mugabe sent troops to the democratic republic of congo in 1998 to fight in the conflict that became the 2nd congo war as a result International Economic aid to zimbabwe was halted and the country was millions of dollars worse off. Than me to the late 1990 s. Characterized by civil unrest student protests and this was wrong to do with Food Shortages and crippling economic crisis in the country at that time. The people of zimbabwe were beginning to rebel against mcgarvie and in 1909 he was faced with a new political enemy when one of his greatest supporters turned against him. You cleared off for the people they see. Morgan chang began his political career as an Ardent Supporter of mugabe and zanu p. F. In 1999 changer i cofounded the movement for Democratic Change or m. D. C. Party which was formed in opposition to mugabes rule. But mugabe was undeterred and turned his attention back to land reform for 20 years since we have been seeking a more equitable distribution of land but. Aggress was painfully slow and 70 percent of zimbabwes Agricultural Land was still owned by white farmers. Mugabe called for a new constitution that would allow the government to seize the property of white farmers without compensation. In view of his work out live with the masses of some of the pupils was about waiting for these few past but chang to write through all his weight against it. Ensure that if existence observes the law. In learning the distribution will remain the governments job priority. Continually or. By b. B. C. One in abject poverty. In a referendum the new constitution was blocked mugabe was furious with his support a mix of Government Troops and vigilante groups began seizing white owned land by force. War veterans they were drunk. They were starting to kill us one common pattern of most to cater ships is they have to either manufacture or amplify a threat so in the case of hitler he villainize for jewish people. In the case of mugabi he amplified the threat from white farmers its not a fight against the whites as such its if ideas are good is that particular section of the whites were on the left when the european columnists. They forced black people off their farms to control over the countrys agriculture that changed in 2000 with the introduction of land reform and this is a story you might not have heard before that land reform is working land reform or is very important in zimbabwe this is people went to war to take the land back from the white minority but when were going to be decided to deal with this issue he was doing it for the wrong reasons and thats why we ended up with a disastrous policy where he allowed disparate prisons to take white commercial farms without it and many of his cronies had multiple farms and did not been if its the country in 2 or. The new occupants of confiscated farms often included prominent members of the ruling elite they were either inexperienced inept or disinterested in farming Food Production plummeted and the country nosedived into famine and economic decline. Up to a quarter of the population fled the country and 3 quarters of those who were left living on less than one u. S. Dollar per day. International sanctions were implemented against mugabes land crap policy. The sanctions are targeted not at the people of zimbabwe they suffered enough but against the leadership of the government. For mugabi the sanctions proved to be a convenient scapegoat for the. Most serious. Injury. She. Says. A decision. That. Is essential for a dictatorship because it provides them political cover to deflect blame when things go wrong it wasnt my fault they say it was these enemy of the people who you should blame look at what britain is trying to do mobilize the roar of europe i didnt step merely because of the land christian russian big. Protest group against mcguffeys dictatorship including from Opposition Leader morgan tsvangirai. Cheez a. Fair man always occupied such a very Important National position to join others to their local village thank you. Oh. I. Do the despicable. Shanker i was proving a thorn in the gobby side and in the run up to the 2002 elections mugabe accused of plotting to kill him i was arrested. Mugabes tactics paid off. As the. Next president is 6. Years as i sit here. Robert mugabe has been sworn in as the president of zimbabwe after this bizarre. Situation in zimbabwe no one could possibly call it an election most in d. C. Leadership is in custody or on the run there are thousands of People Living up in the mountains in the bush they have been burned out of their homes. And terrorized mugabe managed to stay in power by controlling the state mission he controlled the army he also controlled the police and to really niger stand he controlled the opposition will all weekend inside him is that after years of fighting this brutal regime. When the country went to the polls again in 2007 before he could pose another threat to my god these rule was arrested again and severely beaten at 78 mugabe entered his 27th year in power. The big difference between dictatorships of the past and today is that today theyre less brutal but theyre also more durable and one reason for this is they started to mimic democracies they hold elections they have Political Parties they have judiciaries but they figured out clever ways to always ensure that they never lose power there is no no chance at all one could have imagined that this could be described as a Fair Election as a free election it was neither this is a breakdown in Civil Society it is a blood stained regime that is letting down its own people the whole International Community reflecting the outreach people feel about the violence the intimidation and the legitimate holding by the government government what weve agreed is that well send you my submissions and voip it to press for change in zimbabwe and what weve also agreed is Financial Model sanctions that will be imposed a members of the Zimbabwean Mission the. International. Condemnation had little effect. We had a software instinct that is easy and they can shout as loud as you like from washington. Or from any other courts our. People only our people ringback will decide. Mugabe responded to sanctions by attacking his own people he withheld food aid from opposition supporters 4000000 people depend on foreign aid to feed themselves and their families but the mcgarvie regime has now suspended the work of the International Organizations that provide and distribute it observers say its a crude and illegal attempt to bully the electorate. I had the opportunity to meet with the Food Security experts there for the money for. The qualities of this is. A state of emergency Food Security and the messages that we believe the government be sending to the communities that we hold to the person that they have food and if you do not going to be of in this election you will be you will go hungry look at me has over the years learn to use the fear factor to control the masses whether its controlling the media through how he controls information and communication through Food Distribution especially in the. If you dont support if you dont get food period the economic crisis deepens and mugabe responded by printing more and more banknotes by summer 2008 inflation had reached an estimated 200000000 percent severe Food Shortages continued and Health Services deteriorated coinciding with a cholera outbreak seen the links mcgarvie was prepared to go to in order to hold on to power. I had little choice but to withdraw his candidacy in the 2008 Runoff Election and concede the presidency to mcgarvie. You know that whatever we did he was going to lead to do good to deliver. Discredit he was going. To this is what is up with. Us the world of zimbabweans are so. So. Its an exercise in delusion he did not solve the economic problem. Percent inflation. Mcgarvie was sworn in for his 6th term in office. After the 2008 elections. Faced. This electorate and he used the state machinery to silence perceived enemies of the state is. Generally opposition members Civil Society organizations and even human rights organizations were not. Surprisingly in the parliamentary elections zanu p. F. Lost its majority in the house of assembly for the 1st time since independence in 1900. Forced to form a government of National Unity with the Opposition Leader morgan. Tsvangirai was made zimbabwes 1st Prime Minister since mugabe had abolished the post in 1907 when he became president. I dont see any reason why would together. And. We are all sons of the soil as we said. The economic and political situation stabilized for a while during this 5 year power sharing period in zimbabwe when the country converted to the us dollar inflation dropped from 50000000000 percent to nothing. Overnight. 5 years later with a date set for the 2013 general election campaigning was in full swing. In the heart of zimbabwes capital the largest rally ever held by the opposition tens of thousands packed in to hear the final speech from the man vying to unseat president Robert Mugabe morgan chang derive believes he has the support to do it but fears this election could be bricked but too many people died so its afraid to die. If i dont have this in my house. So whats with the counting here nearly complete theres a growing error of resignation that these official results will be anything but a true reflection of the voters wishes the opposition say very incensed by the vote rigging they claim has taken place by t. V. News has uncovered evidence from the Voters Register showing there are more than 100000 voters aged over 100 in a country whose average Life Expectancy is just 51. 2013 saw mugabe begin another term as president. Spearheaded by mugabi a significant new constitution was voted in which a polish trying to rise role of Prime Minister for a 2nd time. After 33 years in power Robert Mugabes rule goes on and the hopes of those who dare to dream change was coming to zimbabwe have been deflated. Despite Health Concerns mugabi announce plans to run in the 2018 president ial elections. Dictators never give up power willingly theres not usually a peaceful ending or resolution to dictatorships but the fear that theyre going to be killed by an angry mob is sufficient to force them to use more and more brutality the closer they get to their regimes to. Me you know and left me forget i suffered most on my head because i tried to protect my head is it tiring to use it to tend to is someone who is sitting maybe maybe is someone who has written many many people suffer you know what you are there are the protest. And the crackdown is over the governments desperate answer to a crippling economic crisis that called bomb notes for the 1st time in a decade zimbabwe is printing its own money so over night they queue for the banks to open hoping for some of this nations shrinking store of u. S. Dollars said bob with currency since the days of hyperinflation they get is the bomb note and the fear it will lead them back to those ruinous times to zimbabwes leader in the coming months will tell if this is a quick fix for economic failure or a final fatal folly in the lead up to the elections mugabe sacked his Vice President and this and. This field speculation that he was paving the way for his much younger wife grace to become his successor. Handing power down from the way. They want to make it did in must. Sometimes dictatorships are able to survive even after the dictator dies because they grew to success very often a Family Member so you have rumors of this happening in zimbabwe its grace mugabi the successor to Robert Mugabe and this already have. And in north korea were kim jong un replaced his father kim jong il who has been groomed since birth for the eventual job of becoming a dictator zimbabwe decided that enough was enough mugabe was placed under house arrest by the Zimbabwean National army theres also the exit strategy by military coup which ends very very badly for the dictators is it there. For good cause it would. Be just this one was an. Expeditious intervention or in a situation if you do to do it it should. Be was given an ultimatum resign or face impeachment. Others quick to the next and i know ill be happy for him despite everything that he has done to be with dignity and to just walk away the gym a little bit more freely and we did but he refused to do that. To the world surprised days later mugabe changed his mind and stepped down at 93 years old he was granted full diplomatic status he was given a mansion with up to 23 Staff Members and several vehicles. For the 1st time in 37 years general elections were held without mugabe as a candidate. I think the worst thing thats what got me in the ditch was bringing this hayden a to his own people i would never have thought i spent more than 17 years living outside of my country because of him when he went and brooklyn journalists including myself. Millions of zimbabweans have had to live in country because of. The legacy that mugabe left or zimbabwe has been catastrophic its not just the fact that he led the country into economic disarray but he has left in his wake an authoritarian regime. If. They had. Balanced. And put in place proper led reforms political reforms. And really thought of his people and not just. Wishes of a few maybe he could have been the next. Robert mugabe left a legacy of nearly 4 decades of political corruption bloodshed Human Rights Violations famine and guerrilla wars zimbabwe was left with a momentous time ask of rebuilding the country in hopes of securing a Brighter Future for its people free from dictatorship. The new president. Has promised to restore zimbabwes economy and corruption and promote human rights but in the wake of the regime change the challenge of rebuilding zimbabwe is proving to be a difficult one. On the 6th of september 2019 Robert Gabriel mugabe died after weeks of disagreement between his family and the government about where he should be laid to rest he was buried at his family home and given a heros funeral. Once a hero of zimbabwes struggle for independence Robert Mugabe has left behind a difficult legacy. 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To the it would be a real shame if we were not to suffer a relapse and end up with fighting the battle because we must not be careless or responsible even for a moment if you