Of civilian casualties and be enormous human suffering all being for nothing. Ill have to any covert so thank you for having me you have much to say about the violence that the. Human Rights Violations that theyve committed but you appear to have almost nothing to say about the shocking casualties and bombings by the Saudi Led Coalition thats killed many thousands of your civilians why is that well thats not accurate actually you know the war is ugly not. Even going to sugarcoat that for you or for anyone a lot of civilians are dead yes this is this is shocking of and you hear the news and you know its a big campaign but theres a difference between having human shields like that who these or some mistakes that happen in every conflict and every campaign and the suit is no different but you know that human rights have been massively violated by Coalition Forces but to look the other way which means going to a certain extent your complicity in the social well im not sure what you mean by looking the other way we have this diet which is an investigation body that has investigated over 170 claims we know that some mistakes we prove that there are some mistakes some of the more i want to talk about the United Nations and loads of both but since march 2015 according to Human Rights Watch become aleutian has conducted numerous indiscriminate and disproportionate strikes killing thousands of civilians hitting civilian structures in violation of the laws of war but you turn away on his us about how horrible let me put it on record this is horrible killing any civilians in yemen is horrible we want to end this war killing even one life let alone a child which happened even by coalition let me finish so why go on with indiscriminate and disproportionate attack it ok this is a big campaign right and there are some mistakes and we approve of we know that some business more than some wenzel i think the u. N. Need to investigate more and we know its you know this thousands and thousands of circling and that if theres an airstrike a mistake everybodys reporting a part and they should report a pilot we should hear about it but theres a lot of mistakes that the host is and im not here to talk about the who hes on the coalitions having mistakes i want in this war im from san am from those territories my family says that were sick of it and we need to end it and just blaming now the coalition for and for all these will not end the war we need to end it yes we do we want to stop the killing even if they dont. Well why did so many civilians have to die for the sake of saving a chaotic divided government such as yours which barely has legitimacy with a wintry blast either with Digital Service the gentleness is not populated im from a different country than the president but the president is the last effective president 6 and a half 1000000 people elected our president 2012 for 2 years where he will to use his mandate run out of his moments i must go 2 years is and tell that we have a democratic system that we allow this to elect a new president who is going to give us and who decides what a democratic city has. Exactly to get many people and who would do that those who were elected ok im not going to allow you or anyone to tell me you have to choose this leader to get you out of this week ok let me if we choose a leader and we need to get out of it we dont want to be there for life thats why we actually had the revolution back in 2011 most of the worst thing about the bombings is that in all these years they have proved absolutely futile you have won nothing and the who says remain unchanged so the catastrophic injuries and deaths among the civilian population because i like i havent spent a change in the way the coalition has been conducting this war theres no more campaign to actually targets the cities theyve been sometimes some of the escalations with the who it is and the sudanese renard involve them and then it didnt happen because we know we need to end this what are we need to talk how to end this war we you know everything that happens in yemen is a reaction to the who things actions we could be and someone one week if they just do the right thing and there i think is not hard to do and why dont we ask them why dont we actually answer that question more than 17000 civilians killed and injured since 2015 the lives were sacrificed for a stalemate proxy war that created the Worlds Largest humanitarian disaster you really believe your government is worth that horrendous human i believe our future is worth the. Fighting not about a future without you can go the future without crying or i could resign even today not tomorrow you know what if you know the who thiis and few know their ideology if you know that they want to have this of the american who view as a figure nobody could at that buffer zone and then well have a puppet government they want we will not accept that i will not give up the future of my children and their children so you can sleep better at night you know it is my country my people are dead they are dying every day you expect me to just to saddle for any peace that would explode in our face any time in the future no im not going to concede to the movies im from the territories im a cd we dont approve what they do and they have to come and park peace soon and we have to actually send them our signals to do that they have these illusions of power that you and others would feed in but as i say theyre called action has to go where the coalition would end if we end the war but not before that if they end if the coalition ends yemen would descend into more chaos its not about me the government or the president how he stays in power is about as they have in yemen from the us that you talk about the investigations that have gone on into what you term euphemistically mistakes in most cases youre not going to find the perpetrators and bring them to justice are you we know that 3 attacks on civilians several years ago are being referred by investigators for possible prosecution just 3 out of countless bombing strikes that have repeatedly this civilian infrastructure shingles or. Change or let me put it in a should check sure chuck change it look i let me put it for the record any civilians are that those responsible wherever they are they should be hold accountable they should be but they will be and you know it factors previous investigations dont encourage up when we do have a investigations and when we know what we were some for show 3 thats what mistaken and i say come in many many years to get. Started or we could classify what you think the facts i mean yes. Civilians are dead this is horrible we do the investigations but we need peace we need peace i mean were talking about having peace and its not easy you know the thing is you want to get away from the subject numbers to go to now because they did not let me let me just be able to national slowly it is International Justice unfortunately sometimes dont come hand in hand we have to have peace and then wed have Transitional Justice afterwards to get all this done youre the one whos refusing talks with the who thinks thats what you think of it thats what youve said now your ministry of innovation said it no no no i represent the Foreign Policy if you meant we need to park soon however im not going to let the horses get off the hook and who they that we went to sweden and we signed the deal they came back one year they havent done anything to prove it should i just let them go off the hook and then move on no they have to be responsible not destroying your country piece by piece child by piece of in those terms i am for a structure that is no road and continue with this humanitarian disaster one is a documented asin disaster if you think or case and i report let me let me just jump to that why do you think that these are holding it hostage were open it in for internal flights theyre refusing because they want to commit this seizure this aggression against them and to hold on to power which they dont have who gave them the right to speak in front and behalf of me on behalf of millions if you have a nice and they use or power and they have this illusion of taking this badly for 62 will the minister youve dug in your heels the u. N. Is seeking unconditional talks unconditional talks between you and the movies youve dug in your to your heels and rejected all the talk as didnt i didnt who says soul january the 28th floor minister of information said we categorically reject any talk about negotiation haseks what we said is i am willing to go now to peace or if were going to talk peace however we need to have the right conditions to god are ok the u. S. Wants unconditional talks hala i dont want to go full time. R. P. So they could have a good report for the Sunni Council i want to go and peace to make sustainable peace for yemen and if there are these would sign degrees sign i like what they did in sweden and come back and not implement we should actually hold them accountable for implementing something i dont like yet you keep on going on going then because you wont sit down and know who that is not your set english ask or a im not going to be met and youre ignoring the advice of this is not a conditions were just were just saying they have to implement what this site is that its really hard to ask we cannot just go on by them signing our course and not implementing anything you know what we did back in 2014 we had a peace deal just a few days after the coup 2 days after the call it was the partnership of Peace Agreement you know what they agreed to be agreed to partnerships but the security measures they never talked about it why arent you talking about that i mean it is there you want me to go again about would you responsible for most that i understand there are no angels in war but according to International Investigators your forces have nothing to be proud of last year the u. N. Panel of experts on yemen accused all sides in the war of committing or if it could be uses from arbitrary killings to rape and torture with impunity so not only have you not won this war you also lost any claims over my moral ground havent you im not going to claim were angels nobody has we just need to end the 2 and i can tell you its a long way from being it was government going to address only aged still says were not arbitrarily deterring forcibly disappeared schools of p well we have no respect for the rule of law we do we do but sometimes its really hard to control everything i can tell you but its not systematic killing of the only people like you want to show it to be you know you keep just talking about 2 sides have you been to yemen have you been to santa have you been to i didnt have you been to for dinner and matter you listen to the people themselves and that you cant just brush everything as as as you know here us in the divide as a rich countries fighting a poor country that is not the way to. And this what we know theres some atrocities happened i mean we are few you know a few miles from from just that we know what history is like why continue to block a vital goods and fuel from coming into this and this is good this is a good question were not actually doing so what we did is were trying to block the Oil Shipments that come from iran to that all the social rights watch are going to be wrong have been the latest report they say that basically the Saudi Led Coalitions restriction on imports have worsened the humanitarian senate were not sure and let me tell you why if you were you know what we said as her data was opened we were a few kilometers from the port the humanitarian came in the u. N. Says you cant do this we said fine lets go to sweden and we need to change this out of School One Year is nothing habit then we go back to the question that questions that we had actually holding her leaders that this is not true we have reports from the you one pound on the server that youre probably not going to mention that shipments of Iranian Oil Coming with counterfeit documents today for free you know we said by the crease 75 lets just check the papers theyre saying let me just give me just finish and then ill hear you we just said lets just check the papers the papers came the who things hold hostage and asked every mercians not to submit the papers so they could get to phony shipments so whos holding that and then we can see that we let her go but all right mr minister Human Rights Watch is saying the coalition has delayed and diverted fuel tankers closed critical ports and stopped goods from entering who controlled seaport what is the fuel d thing and i just finished fuel needed to Power Generators stars because and pump water to homes has also how in stock how do you justify preventing the harder than i was justifying preventing anything in the past 3 months have been more fuel than that and in the previous 3 months or so you checked the statistics and were talking more than 2 years ago the u. N. High commissioner for human rights big both you and the goofy rebels to let splays of food. And to the country all parties to the conflict so the panel of experts on yemen have obstructed the distribution of humanitarian assistance the high commissioner begged you. Have mercy on the people of yemen you know far as this go on when you are actually doing in order to show mercy on your own people we give you something you know what i dont like something about the u. N. Its that they call everyone when they know exactly whos making the problem let me just give you an example a few days ago they had a meeting in brussels above the charter he said the hooters are doing to the humanitarian field you know their want to tax your taxpayers money that comes to yemen so they could steal it im not justifying going to a bias against you is this 1. 00 of those not more dishes that want to see in a neutral party you dont want to say ok i am willing to receive any criticism but dont say all the parties tell me what i did wrong and ill fix it but you have to point fingers also at the truth is point a finger at me and also point forward that you cannot just paragraph their kind of bad point to change your leavings those are they going to be always clear to them now i know what i do and we are trying to struggle and as i said to you earlier government 3 affiliated forces arbitrarily deterring forcibly disappeared schools of people when you say mistakes happen in war. Its the its not you know i mean we cant i mean give me specifics and we would actually fix them im not saying you havent read the report but i have read their own no expert yes yes and there are plenty of those areas and it was handled by is the very 1st report so it is not you have kids and they were being fired but were talking about different everybody who violates human rights accuses the ideas of that but mostly its just be more specific so we can know what we talk about we have an expert group which is the u. N. And our panel according to that is actually following the 3 counsel that movies are not even met and if get to sign up we believe whatever they say and whatever that is not biased we will check if we have mistakes would. Theres another really expos to come from the Human Rights Council the 1st really the 1st report was so by it just took exactly from the propaganda of the who thing and we looked the no we said you cant just have and factual checks you have to check them before you reported and then you can just say you know everyone you limit let me give you some facts 20100 strikes in yemen by the Coalition Forces since the war began an average of 12 attacks a day these attacks have blown up hospitals school buses markets mosques farms bridges factories went on Detention CentersCoalition Air strikes the u. N. Human rights commissioner said in 2017 Coalition Airstrikes continue to be the leading cause of child casualties as well as overall civilian casualties so he didnt know what he was talking about its not your luck we leave you i said national for human rights they have no idea what theyre saying is that ive been and i told you before but you have to be a penalty more than this you have to be clear on the report now its a policy of you start using civilian infrastructure other privates that incompetent but they cant tell the difference to muffle up in the end we. Had happened then we can then that we would continue years later that if you like half your life you will point out for what they are doing we need to make peace we dont want to continue this war and we have to do it a few just weeks ago a few days ago they are struck at hospitals its not right but we dont want just to dwell on it we want to know what is now required to make peace and i know what is required to make peace we need to crack the illusions talk that jumping is required or it is the mark talking over this is going to end as a negotiating table otherwise surely it wont be changed and the sooner it gets there the better and at the moment you know what it is and prevent those anyone in yemen including the who these no one needs to be done we debated it for 100. 00 days in kuwait and you know what happened at the end they changed their mind you know why because they know that they would have a. The thing if they dont sign unfortunately the International Community especially some party sending the wrong thing and that maybe if you just hold on to take in yemen hostage you would get a bit of the if thats what happened and thats what we need to close the last year as well as fighting the rebels you became embroiled in another civil war this time with forces in the south known as the Transitional Council so not only are you failing to beat the who feels you cant even keep your own side together and you cannot ignore the great reality like i was that if it was not a great record now let me talk about that as i recall what happened is another complication that is not worth something of course you know and for what it was a seed determined to succeed on the comp of complication what it is it went of its really hard to discuss something without really prompted those just in of where this is actually happening if the s. T. C. Our brothers and the things you really really represent or sufferance it would be an easy problem to solve the s. T. C. Have a problem with South Koreans themselves not with the f. T. C. If s. T. C. Is just units outside of the control of the government that ive been beefing up with another at emirates and then eventually they decided in august to oust the government from our 2nd capital that cannot happen and we made it clear to the un again they were difficult for and it was only the saudis that patch together the agree i agree you called the riyadh agreement because thats not working either is when it is now working because theres some intransigence and we believe this it would ease would be on all sides and the s. T. C. Site and we could prove it we have the facts we have the metrics that actually explains what we did but you know we have to pass that youve given away a lot to get the 3 Agreement Term to youve basically given saudis control over the major decisions that your government has taken you say no according to the Carnegie Middle East Center several articles of the riyadh agreement emphasize saudi supervision of this new government but very in the u. A. E. Will continue. Intervene as they wish in new york in term of that and i was there a price for your dream and that is not completely out of the price of the riyadh agreement is to get united so we can get back and make peace you know you can just have everything perfection is not really a possible way out in yemen and it is actually the enemy of good and thats what we want at the sun our center for strategic studies says that your president hadi s. T. C. The southern Transitional Council have accepted that all major government actions become warden aided by saudi arabia so basically you saw you know something that is not true i am the form compass of a society governed thats what you think the foreign minister of yemen and i say word i believe it is for the right to the yemenis now with the saudis want to know what the iraqis one Network Anyone wants and thats proven yes rian brilliant we go back to add a bit we speak our minds and it is our responsibility and decisions we have in the reality greenman conceded to have some way in actually dealing with the south sudanese know that instead of them that are these and we need peace we dont want to fight a war in the northern wall in the south and we know that the ethicists do not represent all the whole southron and that thats an issue too and they have to know that they cannot just continue being outside the form of the government if we if this government is dissolved you would have more chaos in yemen then you would think it is not as easy as you think liz that last year the saudis actually expelled one of your Government Advisors the in the mood because work it was a size criticized coalitional out in the sun idea that a man is a diplomat with me he actually came and did something against protocol its not because he still has to do anything they dont expel him his chairman ended and we did it from the office because he actually vitalism of the cause of the diplomatic corps now you cant just politicize everything like this i dont think it is right i dont know if i stay for the whole matter how do you not hes a diplomat who actually didnt actually respect the rules of law can conquer about to be one but we could go back to yemen he could be anywhere else we could go back to saudi arabia why not but not as a diplomat it ended. Talk to me about corruption go on in your state because its not enough that theres a huge war a humanitarian disaster it seems that the state money is not being siphoned off and corruption is combs involving the central boke of yemen where is that going where the central bank i where the report which youre referring to now we have from the u. N. Panel of experts yes yes of course thats what youre trying to guess you know talking about and some paragraph. You know i spoke to the Prime Minister about it weve sacked 2 governors already our books are open Anderson Youngers coming to i then to actually check the books of the central bank its open there we also the bank having been audited for 6 years i asked the Prime Minister of this report why dont you just let the pound on check the books you know what he said didnt ask to go and check now Anderson Young and come in to check if we have some mistakes if we have some corruption charges we would be ready to act upon them were transparent comment check them send them in the team you want to do so we need to end this war we dont want to continue yes theres some corruption im not going to deny it but we need to end it and were willing to crack any cases if you if you just find them i mean just point them at us and we will do so you keep saying you want to in this war do you really believe that a single unitary state is going to emerge from the turbo destruction that you only other combatants of inflicting it on something i think we as yemenis need to know whats the difference between and means to approve something and the goal you know im talking about the massive divisions in your arms and i get to that so the goal is to raise up the standards of living of the yemeni people unfortunately some camps would actually create the means which is unity Central Government that is as actually their goal which is wrong you know so we gave the Central Government to go it didnt work and the National Dialogue everyone including the who thinks the thousands decided on a federal system lets just given a chance lets just give this for the summit chances. Not all of it quite a lot of it knowing why the law said zoolander said so you know the central no longer the law go along and i took the division on your Interest Rates and our center that you actually quoted had actually sunk paul in the south and not all of them more than 50 percent even 60 percent want to stay in some form of federal government not not everyone in the south want to secede and even if they know you have a civil war within a civil war thats quite an achievement isnt the its not a civil war than a civil war there were so few skirmishes back in the south and its over now skirmishes that kicked you out of aden yes you know we went through all the asylum issues and yes but now theres all the disco who was another no Prime Minister just came from adam yesterday and hes gone back now i mean its not like the whole south is turning against the government he checked the south showed what had been violent in the hedge i mean it is not the case you know the s. T. C. Need to know that they have to cooperate to be part of this government they dont they dont have the backing of all the south and those in the south opposed them more than those in the new serving need to know they have to cooperate they are dead set on well known as a session who said so they did know that is not correct ask ill do as the others who signed the riyadh agreement i mean it is not correct they want to stay and they said so the southron issue for them not what we say would come after we finish the war with the who thinks and then we can discuss it thats what they say so you know just the facts. Piece the new book over in world com and we wanted to come but were not just going to have any peace with the who you know im not going to give the future if you happen to those who believe that they could just you know men and have this defined way to all of us like what they do in iraq were not going to accept that they need to know that they could share power that they could not get to do it with guns facing and you know pointing in our face more hollowed out on but thats very much being more thank you so much for this particular discussion. The country sometimes distances. To use from the windows in to them. And want to the passengers expect when they disembark. Riding the rails across mongolia an extraordinary experience. In 15 minutes on the job of. Equal opportunities for everyone regardless of ethnicity or appearance unfortunately for many migrants in germany that remains a distant dream. 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