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Viktor orban an open ended extension to Emergency Powers in the battle against a pandemic but critics are calling it a power grab. Im sara kelly welcome to the program as more and more countries impose lockdowns because of the coronavirus india faces a bigger challenge than most its 1300000000 people have been ordered to say at home since last week but for the informal workers who form the backbone of the economy that means losing their income overnight leaving many without enough money for food and those hardest hit by the lockdown may now also be most at risk of catching the virus. A social distancing is a privilege that these people cannot afford all across india deliveries rushed to transportation hubs carrying whatever they could. The nationwide lockdown has put millions out of work and started a mass exodus from the cities. For these people who are leaving new delhi for their home towns the fear of starving is currently greater than the fear of infection with the coronavirus. If we had food why would we have left were not enjoying this we know that a pandemic is spreading but we are forced to leave were taking precautions and keeping as much distance as we can how you know in other words i mean if the government did nothing otherwise we wouldnt have left. Indias efforts to contain the corona virus has plunged the country into chaos. After transportation was shut down some state governments arranged buses to bring Migrant Workers back to their home villages. But in other states people were left stranded and forced to walk hundreds of kilometers home. Deliverers Street Vendors and other informal workers form the backbone of the indian economy. With Police Chasing them off the streets and no savings to fall back on block zone puts many of them at risk Prime Minister Narendra Modi who had ordered indias 1300000000 people to stay home has apologized for the hardships they are now facing. Especially when i look at my poor brothers and sisters i think they must be wondering what kind of Prime Minister i am put people in such a difficult situation. That i especially ask for their forgiveness. So far roughly 1000 people of india have tested positive for corona virus but experts worry numbers could be much higher. Fears are that an outbreak in one of the worlds most densely populated countries could result in a catastrophe. And around the world social distancing has become the mantra of the day but in greece is overcrowded migrant camps like moria on the island of lesbos thats not possible conditions were already unsanitary and many migrants stuck there also have preexisting Health Problems aid organizations are now calling for the most vulnerable residents to be evacuated to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe. In the maria refugee camp very few have been able to get a mask to protect against corona virus there are more than 20000 People Living here in dire conditions lack of food washing areas and medicine are the norm. There is a lot of disease here people are sick they have fevers and skin conditions like scabies and lice they cough and have breathing problems like asthma officially there are no coated 19 cases here but also no government plan to prevent them says Doctors Without Borders such a scenario would be a disaster for everyone lesbos refugees and residents alike. Voted. In. The 1st full day. Do you want to. Before the pandemic germany had agreed to accept unaccompanied minors thats off the table now an effort to avoid bringing in outsiders from at risk groups opposition parties have criticized a lack of political will to end the humanitarian crisis. Many politicians say we dont want a repeat of 2000 to 15 but were not talking about millions of people here just a few tens of thousands if youre really serious and want to do Everything Possible to prevent a further outbreak then we have to evacuate these camps if youre. A camp intended for 3000 People Housing 20000 that makes social distancing here close to impossible. And lets get more on this were joined now by eric marker he is an m. E. P. For the green party and joins me now from eric we understand that you have been on the ground in the past few weeks monitoring the situation there in the camp how do you assess if this calf is coping with the threat of cope at 19 at the moment. I think i have to make clear that it was a humanitarian crisis here before we have a hospital here which is 10 times overcrowded at the moment result of 19 and now everyone is fearing that over 19 will come to the camp too and theyre actually not prepared at all to deal with the situation and in the meantime we have some aid organizations also the European Parliament calling for the evacuation of these migrant camps how could that possibly be done. I also think that its not a matter of possibilities its just a matter of political will we have empty hotels all around you up and we have to support the Hotel Industry in the summer and we will have to support then it will be an economic crisis which also affects them and i think if we speak about hotels but we can also speak about cruise ships who are empty at some moment who have no guests and we just have the possibility to deal with the situation here to evacuate that which if you count and we should do that actually not only because of humanitarian issues but also because of the fight against corner should be fought everywhere and i dont understand why everybody is talking about social distancing and do up was overcrowded question comes as you can say overcrowded its often our interest in the fight against corona ok so relocation to hotels thats thats one idea that you have on meantime we have the coronavirus also impacting germanys refugee policy domestically what do you think the German Government should do right now. At the moment i think we just need some Member States in the European Union or at least one member state who just tried to solve the problem we had discussions in germany since beast christmas about the education up on accompanied my notice but in the end its not enough discussions now or the big catastrophe at the corner of i respect in the refugee camp at the export of bottles and we just need one or 2 or 3 or whatever Member States who try to evacuate people here and its really not a matter of possibility is there for example 25000 empty places and persecutes respect and thats in germany at the moment theyre empty you can give some to places to Homeless People from germany but you can also give i dont know tents are the places to refugees from the external part of. A lot of ideas there any p eric market from the green party joining us from lesbos thank you so much for sharing your view. Well meantime hungriness parliament has voted to give Prime Minister viktor orban broad new powers that he says are needed to fight the coronavirus there the new law allows orban to rule by decree for an unlimited time the Prime Minister declared a state of emergency in hungary 3 weeks ago critics say that the anti coronavirus defense act has known gives orban on it necessary and limited power allowing him to cement his leadership under the pretext of fighting the outbreak. And joining us on the phone we have w. R. Soucy he is live from budapest for us arent we seen several World Leaders introducing Emergency Powers why is this bill in particular so controversial. Well this is. d going to be now the only country in europe that has unlimited powers for an unlimited amount of time there are not a lot of countries with on limited powers now but that only lasts for 306090 days things like that i think in the case of britain my be 6 months but here its unlimited powers and opposition parties are concerned that that means that there could be an abuse of power 0. But the hungary unfit as membership it as being the ruling party here in hungary and has a 2 thirds majority with their with their Coalition Partners the christian democrats they say dislodge the shit we talked only about the Health Crisis the Coronavirus Crisis and nothing else so thats the only thing that theyre going to be dealing with when it comes to our limited 0 unlimited amount of time and there were a number modernization members to go actually said we agreed with the unlimited powers not with the unlimited amount of time down to 30 days 60 days 90 days but that didnt go through so now this is indeed a very unique situation here in europe are what kind of powers are we talking about here. Well they can initiate anything that they think will do will help and is protecting the citizens of hungary against the coronavirus right now can be open until 3 oclock in the afternoon and that may drastically change to a lot of jobs just on their own have just closed up totally and there is a lot right now that Senior Citizens get to choose of entrance to shops between 9 and 12 and that again may change 5 1 law that concerns a lot of people is that if anyone is caught. Spreading false information on purpose they could face serious prison time anything up to 5 years in jail and again this would be up to the court says not up to sit as the government itself and so they dont agree with the criticism that this could be abuse that reporters might have to go to jail because they wrote a story and it turned out not to be true again then if it s. As good a hunger in government as that they would have to have done this on purpose for reading false information so you can see theres both sides are at loggerheads over this. Is our god so the joining us from budapest with more on this law which allows hungary and leader to rule by decree for an unlimited time are thank you. Thank you. Lets take a look now at some other corona virus developments the number of infections worldwide has now topped 730000 people according to a new tally total infections in spain have spiked to more than 80 5000. 00 making it the worst hit country after the u. S. And italy israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has gone into quarantine after one of his Staff Members tested positive for the coronavirus and the price of oil has fallen to just over 22. 00 a barrel the lowest since 2002 thats because of plummeting demand due to the economic slowdown. Germanys wise men thats a panel of Economic Experts believes measures to deal with the coronavirus will slash growth this year by over 5 percent of recessions starting in the current 2nd quarter is unavoidable according to those experts in the best Case Scenario similar to china where the situation appears to have stabilized germanys economy would rebound strongly in 2021 the economists say that the governments priority must be funding the Health System to provide adequate care to patients and to limit the spread of the virus while the race is all defined as a drug or a vaccine to defeat the corona virus and researchers are working flat out around the world in some cases theyre using drugs or vaccines already developed for other diseases that might also combat the virus but another approach is to use antibodies from patients who have recovered from covert 19 the Hanover Medical School is one of many Institutions Research in covert 19 in one joint project transplant specialists and human toll of just are trying to derive a drug from the blood plasma of patients whove recovered from the virus. The voice we want to test healed patients for that counts and whether these antibodies a suitable for helping cure of the patients under the books is a century ago that idea proved successful during the great influenza pandemic and in dangerous measles outbreaks antibodies latch on to the viruses before they can infect other cells the 1st blood donations from recovered patients are expected soon. Researchers in often are taking a different approach theyre producing ventilators using 3 d. Printers in case existing supplies run out. We hope that doesnt happen here but these machines can also be used in countries where thats already a reality the devices are not safety certified but they could help in a crisis. Youre watching database dont forget you can always get more on our website www dot com up next its our covert 1000 special im sorry thanks for watching. Combating the corona pandemic. Where does research stand and. What are scientists learning. Background information and news. From the 19 special next on d w. How does a virus spread. Why do we. And when well. Just through the talk. Radio show is called spectrum if you would like any information on the crawl of virus or any other science topic you should really check out our podcast you can get it wherever you get your podcast you can also find us at. Slash science. In times of corona they might be one of the key weapons to curb pandemic the data on our smartphones for example. Every step we take every step people around us take scientists estimate that one infected person passes the virus on to iran 2. 00 to 3. 00 people on average so what if we used all that we already have on our smart phones to track people infected with the coronavirus and warn those who have contact with a carrier prevent more infections build Something Like a digital image in south korea that seems to have been one of the keys to keep their infection surveillance candidates are trying to help us find the Current Crisis. This is the news welcome to our special coverage of the global covert 19 outbreak today want to take a closer look at south korea country was hit hard by the coronavirus but now it has seen a steep decline in new code 900 cases compare that with the numbers in germany they are currently nearly 10 times as high. Number for germany in recent weeks it appears south korea has largely reined in the disease and without closing down public life to a degree we are seeing in europe and elsewhere how. Nobody knows exactly but making use of Internet Technology to share confirmed patients locations and travel information directly with the public seems to have helped quite a lot actually. So theory a seems to be battling the coronavirus kovac 900. 00 effectively without implementing a complete lockdown in addition to rigorous and innovative testing for the virus online applications and social networking have been crucial to encourage ongoing Public Participation in the battle against the corona virus every day south Korean Health authorities send Text Messages to everyones smartphones the advisories remind people to avoid large groups practice to meter safe distancing and regularly disinfect their homes leaving the windows open. So Korean Health authorities emergency alerts share the locations of new coronavirus patients people can then follow the links to detailed patient tracking data Web Developers like ryan have collected and aggregated that information to more user friendly websites. Provide the troubled history of each patient also thats in the text so even if you. Read that placing you dont really know where exactly to locate it so i try to put that out on the map so that people can. Officially see where its exactly look at it so that they know if theyve been to that place in public has become a bit complacent as the pen demick drags on so websites like this may help remind people that the risk of infection is still out there and possibly nearby there are people like thiel in korea. Because they think they didnt have any contact with the patient with this website they have a better idea of that. Really deal with the situation since their creation in late january in early february independent coronavirus patient tracking web sites have received millions of page views offering users a reassuring information on. When the corona virus became a threat i downloaded the app since started using them to understand the situation you can see where infected people have been and avoid going there so it helps to stop the virus from spreading. So korea has managed to flatten the curve and reduce new pieces of the corona virus in recent weeks although Health Officials here still worry about potential new clusters. Well from Seoul South Korea im now joined by Professor John one son associate professor at the bar and school of Planning University College London professor after a peek at the beginning of march south korea has kept new infections very low you say besides a Testing Program thats due to surveillance how yes tracing through to Surveillance Technology played a pretty part in this fight against the corner. If the country has played it be complicity with testing if you dont know who to test the Testing Capacity has only limited the use so to find out who to test disobedience technology was really cool so the cool east to find though that everyone every single one patient to come from the patient contacted in the past so ted way you can find out who this patient fighters from and the who this patient could have to keep in mind as to what kind of data exactly has the government there gathered. Because the initial data is the interview of People Experts interview or interview patients who too is king rarity but then they sent up with. This to police state. Resources at a time through police and thats a credit card transaction move. And this is the tedious so this movie a form every every move i Ponder Service networks have information about where mobile phone has been through g. P. S. And intensive sieber connection and its taken the critic cars. Again the bangs can tell you. When the testing action happened so combination of these 2 will it gives you a lot of cars so for example if a keshia was patient for example everest every single customers or potential patients they had to be tested and using credit card of course you can find out all day with the clinical steamers and then see if the t. V. s can give you even more finite movement to data. To the patient to talk to in the past who the patient to pointing to poor example and answer one. That he did the only thing profess a this is it is dangerous when a government can track every step of its citizens it is certainly is so this is this is an emergency measure one only when the only when the president of troops it is then to put it is a control gets ochs us to tease authorities or with a towel through police so when this situation is over they dont have the data dont get us to stay longer Professor John once on joining us live from seoul in south korea thank you very much for this and what. If you think you. Know the answer few questions about how south korea handled the fight against the virus but fresh questions around the globe arise every day. Your questions most important and you have sent us plenty Facebook Twitter and email and to answer them at least the part of them. Every day heres our science correspondent williams. If we start jetta tracking are there any assurances in place the Technology Wont be used against us in the future that depends a lot on the country i think where you reside any assurances put in place will have to come from governments now theres no question that digital surveillance measures like cell phone tracking that are used to trace the contacts of someone who has been infected are one of the most effective ways that we have now to find out who else might have been exposed but the big fear of course is that once given the right to track their citizens in this way some governments might continue to do it once the Current Crisis is over and it needs to be addressed and the legislation expanding the rights of governments to track their own citizens striking the right balance between outbreak oversight and data privacy is not going to be easy. On what data can be used to track the spread of the coronavirus. Well nowadays practically all of us leave a kind of trail of digital bread crumbs behind us as we move through our lives if you had g. P. S. Or bluetooth turned on on your phone for instance then that can provide pretty specific information as to your whereabouts or who you might have come close to other information that can be used as for example when or where you might have made purchases with a bank card or a credit card and then of course in places that are directly monitored by c. C. T. V. You can employ facial Recognition Technology to pretty precisely determine exactly when someone was where in south korea which has so far had some of the greatest success at containing the virus without resorting to drug kone and measures like lockdowns tracking the Previous Movement of people who tested positive has relied on the companys. Of all those measures. Can big data help us avoid a 2nd corona virus outbreak. The short answer to that is no the only thing that will stock over 1000 for gerd is herd immunity which hopefully we will acquire through a vaccine in the not all too distant future however there are many ways that big data techniques can help us better control and in future outbreaks they can help us recognise when ones beginning at an earlier stage to start with and dell also tell us a lot more about what measure is being instigated all over the world at the moment actually work best so even if it doesnt solve the coronavirus problem for us big data it is providing valuable information all the time on how we can hopefully solve the problem ourselves. And that was covered 19 special coverage for today for more on the pandemic to check out all social Media Channels and our website that city w dot com which has a dedicated cove of 19 pages in 30 languages. At the end of the show we leave you with pictures from a back a long body into lees region hit hardest by the Novel Coronavirus streets that. Empty country and sacrificing almost all folds of Business Activity to fight and death. And that crowded again base of tracking will be an issue to avoid the 2nd wave of the pandemic and to stop company governments and companies from tracking every move. Climate change. Sustainability. Environmental projects. Give globalization effect biodiversity Species Conservation exploitation equality. Human rights displacement mumbly global incurred to a local action. Global 3000. Next month d w. Is quite as good as it seems. To understand the world better we need to take a closer look. To experience knowledge tomorrow to. 60 minutes. Of. The global corona crisis you can find more Information Online at e. W. Dot com and on t. W. Social Media Channels. You know that 77 percent of opic are younger than the fox. Guts me and me and. 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