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Is planning to organize a summit which is a few of them. Because we all work in the same direction of the police is. No good libyan will accept any bloodshed from the sun cease fire is a wise decision. Also coming up tonight an exclusive report hiding his identity to bring the truth to light to what one Hong Kong Police officer thinks about the prodemocracy protests. Im just frustrated because some offices really dislike the protesters and honestly they really want to beat them up i have to say the senior offices have basically messed it up. On to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with libyas unlikely peace broker in 2011 germany Drew International criticism when it refused to support a Un Security Council resolution that authorized military intervention in libya early ends fears at the same time would soon be realized that libya liberated from a dictator would soon become libya front line of a new proxy war the capital tripoli remains the target of fighting militias and the latest attempt by russia and turkey to mediate a cease fire collapsed today were now in germany were trying to mediate on sunday german chancellor Angela Merkel plans to host a peace conference here in berlin a negotiating table reportedly with room for everyone who wants a say in the future of libya. The talks were meant to bring an end to the conflict in libya and be a diplomatic victory for russia and turkey but after general. Left the talks in moscow without agreeing to a long term truce they appeared to end in failure speaking to meteor a day off to hell with the Russian Foreign minister Sergey Lavrov played down the outcome saying the peace plan put forward by moscow an acura was still a work in progress. Representatives of Libyan Society met in moscow with the participation of the russian and Turkish Foreign and defense ministers we will continue our work on this track so far there has been no definitive africa. Libya has seen heavy fighting for months the countrys internationally recognized administration the government of National Accord led by fires sarkar raj is based in tripoli its facing up our challenge from general have todds rival administration based in the east of the country and the city of tobruk. After its forces calling themselves the Libyan National army are reportedly being assisted by russia and regional allies egypt saudi arabia and the u. A. E. Meanwhile ankara along with the United Nations is backing tripolis government of National Accord earlier this month Turkeys Parliament gave president reject type one the green light to send troops to tripoli. And after the moscow talks failed to offer a solution on tuesday other one provided a clear warning. You know theyre not vigilant in the coming days we will be closely following the choices that the coup plotter have and the countrys legitimate government will make. In the event that attacks against the countrys legitimate government and our libyan brothers continue we will never refrain from giving hafter the lesson he deserves i did little me john. Now the focus moves from moscow to berlin german chancellor Angela Merkel has invited top officials from a host of countries to peace talks on sunday in the hope that this time around something might be different. And for more tonight im joined from london by monti hes the head of the zadok institute thats a think tank focusing on Libyan Affairs and is going to have you on the program there is i want to i want to talk about this conference in berlin in just a moment but i want to remind our viewers there is a legitimate government in tripoli at the moment supported at least by the United Nations yet it is under siege what does that say in your opinion about the u. Wins ability to secure the peace in libya. Well the u. N. Framework by the Security Council is ultimately broken in libya another is the u. N. That came in and does letterman will give its members 173 he says 11 to rely on its responsibility to protect doctrine led the coals internationally its a day late in the safe civilian lawyers from i look at the after the arab spring started until it doesnt happen and 9 years later all something about the situation is radically different it is the u. N. Security councils framework which is working as the in many allegations maybe little rocks but how they support it discreetly put it out there since the 101415 during the 2nd civil war and then not allowed to sanction him or threaten him or condemned and that this is the members of the Un Security Council framework and the framework that is just the result of conflict and im pretty steadily and learns has really been threatened by the example of the convert well we distill this down for us if we go back to 2011 there was disbelief the arab spring was beginning there was disbelief that something good could happen in the arab world and in Northern Africa the u. S. President barack obama he put the resolution to the u. N. Security council and intervention took place and it did not work the way it was planned didnt do you want to venture an explanation there what happened was the International Community then too naive. Well it is certainly believe it or think the slogans alone like that and i am of mubarak are down there with them with sort of an alley that these things would result in men or men of us change all on their own ethics slogans are one thing but programs and really significant change beyond just the head of the states because those states had pretty deep hands of goals and and that is an element of what has been going on across the arab world where you have the deep state that is the remnants of those former regimes theres networks as political and economic and Security Networks as patronage that works how the government or a country beyond just that they are has i had to limit security and almost disenfranchise many of the population theres things no one had a clue about have assault them let alone the local populations that had rose up in different cities that was sort of egypt that it was so and so autocratic regime it doesnt it seem. I turned it into this it as in sudan very very recently as well as the crackdown. With lebanon and iraq so this movement doesnt lead to where some i did for but it doesnt mean that people have kind of given up on this on this because i think there is really a movement that is going across the world that those things but. The danger is miller standing in the way that those things that the thats about it because ultimately when you look at a place like tripoli the way this war over the last 9 months you had a small little flicker of flame left the democratic aspiration theres a musket extinguished but no under the pretext of that and a spring or early that human rights of expression of that moves us those things or you know that you cant lets you fashionable because of the rights of what has happened is there has been a Even Movement called the returns all too apparent instability and that has come at a Group Expense across the arab world and especially india and back in 2011 you know as i said earlier in the program in germany did not support the Un Resolution the no fly zone over libya was something that germany did not want to participate in and it proved that germany despite all the criticism was probably right at the time in looking towards the future and now we have germany this coming sunday trying to mediate some form of peace but were talking about 9 years between 2011 and today is a European Countries efforts to bring peace to libya too little too late. I think we have to really look at certainly theres also such a Research Place in europe because there are so many things that could have been done but we brushed under the carpet leave later well until you are can do very very easily and very very you know with adequate political will is to enforce laws and bugger you can only fight if you have arms and weapons supplier and over the last 3 days alone. Moscow talks of and that there had been need shipments from the u. A. E. Special forces base but not without any go into Eastern Libya that has been somewhat. Who left moscow knowing they had the backing to fight now if the u. N. Role in germany it well it started falls on symbolically that would force the local players to have lower action but you need to make peace a little and you have to make because its easy to say dont mess up the but somehow its better to look at both of these things because for every situation that libya the west would like syria we have genocides that were likely to run 20 years ago. You know Standing Police assistance is looking to let them go to live like this the situation and you know i was wondering im going to look im sorry if theres a fit of feedback here and im sorry about that me just ask you there what about the credibility of the german chancellor i mean its its its clear that europe and germany dont want another migration crisis like we had in 2015 and they dont want one coming from libya which would explain why they want to do something in libya does the german chancellor in your opinion is she the one leader right now who has the credibility to get people to make promises that they will keep. And it has a great reputation at least in the north of us just policy at the very least its a trial is not being called into question any moment given the announce that theres been a conference for over 4 months ago so i think its the adequate forum but the question really is and certainly angular merkel is you know as all the credibility that any should enjoy when theyre trying to host a conference like this but the real question is is that adequate political will in europe can emanate from germany and at it from that meeting because to be frank were going to have this meeting of scott my months ago at the participants are all members of internationally that at least get to journalist the question really is are other members of the international a right enough so i want to solve this because theres only one thing you can do with fear and fear is easily manipulable you know its something that could be manipulated by other actors like russia you know could continue to manipulate the situation and ease the militia crisis that the great movie are about. The question is is that a political will to put this to bed not a letter its yeah youre right it could have been as simple as a skype video call but it wasnt until the money joining us tonight from london and as we appreciate your insights tonight thank you. The investigation into the crash of that Ukrainian Airlines jet last week its just beginning iran has admitted that one of its missiles accidentally shot down the plane near tehran and this tragedy is the latest in a string of events drawing the worlds attention some say casting the worst a light on ukraine and you dont have to go back so far in time you remember just a few years ago in the capital kiev those demonstrations in favor of closer ties with the European Union that turned violent and deadly scene there after russia annexed crimea and illegal act it also sent military aid and personnel to help fight a bloody separatist movement in the eastern section of ukraine the fighting is still ongoing and the hope attached to the election of president vladimir is alinsky in ukraine earlier this year well it was dashed quickly when a phone conversation between the president and us President Donald Trump ignited a political firestorm in washington resulting in the impeachment of drop the other day all of this recent history prompted alina by the cover of the Brookings Institution to write this ukraine seems to have a dark cloud over it its finding a war against russia and its become part of the political war in the us this tragedy again puts ukraine in the middle of conflicts that have nothing to do with it all right for some analysis lets take you now to kiev where w. s Nick Connelly is joining us good evening to you in nic i mean theres a very sad perception when it comes to ukraine at the moment we saw it in that quote right there which ukraine do you see as a correspondent living there and reporting from there. Good evening brant i think most ordinary ukrainians are fully aware of that dark cloud over seas hanging over them but it is true has been an extraordinary few months and a real baptism of fire and it is that phrase is for ukraines new president William Zelinsky in office less than a year having to deal with being at the heart of this us impeachment conflict something he didnt choose he didnt seek out something it was thrust upon him and now again with this ukrainian plane being shot down over tehran being in a essentially the finding himself in the midst of the west conflict with iran again unexpectedly again without having done anything to be so i think its a very intriguing its a very winning line im not sure theres so much to it i think the Bigger Picture is that ukraine has to deal with the fact that the u. S. Is absent from europe especially now in this impeachment period any kind of involvement ukraine seems to be toxic in washington and that means that ukraine has lost significant support from the u. S. And might now be pushed into some kind of deal with the russians thats the baseline rather than some kind of course make. Astrological set up thats really doing ukraine is present in. A lot of hope that was invested in the election. And a lot of that hope was dashed i think when this tragedy occurred last week just because hes president doesnt mean that bad things are going to happen that are attached to ukraine has that do you think in the minds of people. Told them that he is unfortunately already a disappoint me. Im not sure i mean this definitely has been a puzzling time for people here in Ukraine Ukraine has to be had to fight to get attention especially in the west and a lot of people i mean its basic as is it called ukraine or the ukraine people not really knowing how to spell kiev with a while the russian spelling it is basically is that this is a problem that ukraine really has faced for decades and now suddenly to find itself at the center of the International News agenda has been very strange having said that theres been some really positive signs for ordinary ukrainians over the last few months something that hasnt got the same kind of internationally ukraines currency that who even has really added in value against International Currency and that really is an important psychological indicate for ordinary ukrainians people here might not be able to tell you what was happening in politics 5 or 10 years ago but they will be able to tell you how much the dollar cost them back in 2004 back in 2010 that is something that is the peoples minds and that strength in the currency really makes people feel that theyre getting wealthier and theyre getting back to some kind of Economic Situation there before also just before the news hole days you have big exchange of prisoners with the production separatists that again a big feel good moment that presents lets give the form a showman was able to really explore it to the max and to really ram down peoples kind of threw in a really not a highly publicized with tears on the tarmac here in kiev so it is a mixed picture but definitely nationally it does look like one disaster after the other also it may look like that ukraine is all alone in a very ugly and hostile world is that one way of seeing it and you have to ask you like you said the beginning of what about all of this just being a you know a case of a lot of bad luck and nothing. Definitely you crazy looking in a more difficult International Position than it was even just a few years ago i think as i said the main problem there being the us and the us broadly more broadly withdrawing its attention from europe and kind of closing in on internal matters and weariness in europe theres no real sense that the e. U. Is willing to give ukraine any kind of roadmap to membership in the u a weariness there and a weariness also in european capitals to maintain this standoff with Putins Kremlin its been going on for the last 5 years now i was in paris in december of last year just a few weeks ago and theres a real sense that at least france wants to get back to business as usual as fast as possible with the russians and is willing to go into considerable arm twisting with the ukrainians to get them to make concessions to make that possible some kind of deal of. The infancy of any kind of resolution here but there is a sense that ukraine is coming under great pressure to really make concessions and to get this problem out of the way for western european capitals well theres one thing that is for sure all of this definitely keeps you busy our very own economy tonight on the story for us in kenya nic thank you. China poses a global threat to human rights that is a key takeaway of the annual report by Human Rights Watch which has just been released the report points to chinese president xi jinping as government and it accuses it of overseeing the most brutal and pervasive oppression that china has seen in decades prodemocracy demonstrators in hong kong they say that beijing is using the territorys police to enforce a policy of ever greater brutality and oppression but support of the communist party line among the police in hong kong its not universal at least when some police there to speak the truth he. Has this exclusive report. When david chan joint the Hong Kong Police force a few years ago he never thought that he would see scenes like these david town is not his real name. Base was last november when protesters and Police Clashed for hours on the University Campus Hong Kong Police had come on the massive attack. And david says its not only the physical threats that affect morale. Theyve been working long hours theyve been blamed fingers pointed at them its very exhausting both physically and mentally. This is what hes talking about criticizing and often could sing at the police many offices are on edge theyve been accused of indiscriminate breasts beating up subdued protesters and threatening to shoot you guys into apartments if video is alleged Police Brutality circulating online. Bystanders would get into arguments with officers risk getting pepper sprayed a clear violation of the rules as david. Im just frustrated because some offices really dislike the protesters and honestly they really want to beat them up but i think this isnt the right mentality we should be impartial as Police Officers we shouldnt take sides he says hes currently doing as much as 100 hours of overtime every month while he isnt serving at the front line as backup he often has to be at the side of demonstrations david is hiding his identity feel being bullied by protesters online and he worries about professional repercussions. As a member of the Hong Kong Police force i shouldnt be criticizing it in public but as a citizen of hong kong i have to say the Senior Officers have basically messed it up. Officials denied the police have done anything wrong the police has been the focus of the demonstrators since june when they 1st violently broke up a protest. Since then public anger has steadily grow especially among the young david says most of his friends have turned their back on him in the past 6 months. I was a bit upset about it because they were my good friends but then i thought about it theres nothing i can do. He says several of his colleagues have quit their jobs but while hes at all its with the current tactics he has no intention to leave. I should be staying in the police force and try to maintain the right mentality and to uphold the values of the police. Its a tough challenge for david stuck between loyalty and. Climate change is real no matter which language you speak a team of german linguists has Just Announced the annual worst german word of the year award which highlights words that can mislead or obscure the truth and that word this year is clima history and if you translate that word into english very easy to do you get there you see it climate hysteria and the jury says it used to defame Climate Change activism and discredit important debates on the phenomenon it makes a path ology of the growing Climate Change movement is misleading and irresponsibly supports anti science tendencies the power of one word all right so lets get back to the science now a major new report has shown that the worlds oceans grew even hotter in 2019 now that is no surprise the last 5 years were each in their time the hottest on record the researchers say that the warming oceans are already having a major impact on marine life and on these severely of storms so i clones and hurricanes. As our planet warms due to the greenhouse effect the vast majority of trapped heat is absorbed by the oceans over 90 percent of it the oceans therefore provide a key buffer that helps keep temperatures on our planet stable but their capacity to absorb heat isnt endless and marine eco systems are suffering organisms like corals that cant flee the higher temperatures simply die back to back bleaching and catastrophic mortality has meant weve lost 50 percent of all corals on the Great Barrier reef in 2 years and this is meant weve needed entirely new ways to think about how can we fast track both resilience and recovery according to the new study sense 2010 the oceans have absorbed around 22860000000 joules of extra heat to compare thats over 400 times the energy used by the entire human race annually and warmer oceans are having another major impact on our planets colder regions even a slight rise in water temperature causes glaciers to melt more rapidly from below billions of tons of ice have already disappeared from the ice caps in a nutshell warmer Ocean Temperatures mean rising sea levels the minister Marine Biodiversity and more powerful storms. 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