Transcripts For DW The Day 20240713

A good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world. More a military action like this is not enough for revenge. What is important is ending the corrupt presence of america in the region and. The civilized world to send a clear and unified message to the Iranian Regime your campaign of terror of murder mayhem will not be tolerated any longer that they should stop listening to clowns that they should based a policy based on realities of the people and leaders of iran the United States is ready to embrace peace with all who seek it. Also coming up tonight a war in the middle east is not the only threat this new year and tonight a list of the biggest risks in 2020. Efforts to reverse Climate Change are not working even. As the u. S. And china go their separate ways and technology will see a more explicit clash over National Security and global influence and values. Washington of beijing wont like it but europe will become more assertive 2020. 1 to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and around the world well we begin the day with a major change in tone if not substance today u. S. President donald trump said that iran appears to be standing down in its confrontation with the United States and he delivered that message at the white house just hours after iran had launched a military a missile attack on military bases housing u. S. Troops in iraq iran originally claimed that at least 80 americans had been killed trump confirmed today that no american no iraqi lives were lost. A crucial and highly anticipated moment no americans were harmed. In last nights attack by the Iranian Regime. We suffered. All of our soldiers are safe and orderly minimal damage was sustained at military bases or donald trump confirming no troops were injured or killed in irans missile attack meant there was no need to escalate tensions between the 2 countries. Its all about the Iranian State television had earlier claimed missiles fired by irans forces had killed 80 u. S. Soldiers at the Ein Al Assad Air base in iraq. The attack was an act of revenge for the killing of top military commander general kosinski any the move has been widely welcomed across iran. Crowds chanting death to america as irans Supreme Leader ayatollah ali how many tell them their message has been delivered of god. A slight force delivered last night but what is important is that the seditious presence of america. In the region should be and it. Was the countrys foreign minister also spoke out. Of the. View said very clearly that if the United States takes any further action iran did respond accordingly and we would respond in a very harsh way but proportionately united stunnel trump and did promise further action but in form of economic sanctions military confrontation it appears has been averted for now. And for more now we want to bring in the german parliamentarian the european heart he is also the Foreign Policy spokesman for the c. D. U. That the conservative party for the german chancellor Angela Merkel has started going to have you on the program today i want to get your read on what we have heard today from the u. S. President that basically in the span of 48 hours weve gone from in the brink of war to things being ok. The biggest fear we had after the attack on this general on friday which was an unselfish american on a question of from iran against american troops in iraq the biggest fear was that this led to it might lead to the new escalation. Happy to hear from the u. S. President that he will not sell the attacks the record as the missile attacks from that night from iran against american troops in iraq with new. Attacks from his side this says that probably we can can hinder the u. S. Collation on a military base but im fortunate lee the 2 other negative effects of that was had what happened on friday morning 1st the decision also the Iraqi Parliament to to ask the government to send out foreign troops from iraq and 2nd to the litani was a literary t. Between iran government and you which parts of the people in iran and also iran pro iranian people in iraq the those the 2 negative effects are still. Existing and this led to a situation that we are now in iraq by supporting iraq than we were before friday and this is my position and. Unfortunately we have to debate that with our colleagues in the u. S. And other countries i know started you had expected or more retaliation from iranian proxies such as hezbollah we have seen that do you think the i guess the decision that iraq is now too dangerous is that a decision that was made to hastily. No i think it was right to take out some of german troops. For a while outof the country we also thinking about to do it. Before in the media time also now because we also have to some myside attacks on the facilities and back to. Training mission in iraq is very necessary for the country because the only chance we have is that iraq might become a prosperous and vital state with the capabilities to make sure its own security interest and also that what we have in mind. Terrorists to come come up again and we were successful on that way in the last years and hopefully we can continue that but we have to balance security questions whats this but a tickle. To go in and we will discuss this tomorrow in the Foreign Affairs committee of the doj when this talk and the defenses committee of the doj when this talk in extra meetings we arranged together with our 2 ministers what are you going to do just in terms of the u. S. President trying saying he wants more nato in the middle east and today he also said that the j. C. B. Away the Iran Nuclear Deal he now wants that once and for all to be history hes asking even more almost impossible things from the europeans isnt it. Unfortunately. The president is believing in a strategy of increasing pressure on iran where i think and also a lot of europeans think that it will not be and might not be successful because what we need is a consensus between the 5 permanent members of the Security Council also including russia and china that strategy on the strategy again. Iran a question and iran. Capabilities to have a bomb a nuclear bomb and this is only possible on negotiations and not with. Increasing pressure because russia will never accept that to iran is doing Something Like a particular copper to copulation against towards us they will undergo probably. The pressure politic of the president and at the end of the day probably your arm will be able to have a nuclear bomb earlier than now with this. Bird in the hand which is better to have than 10 birds on the tree we dont have didnt have any thing better than this agreement yet and therefore we have to continue to negotiate on it oh i want you to take a listen to part of what the u. S. President said today about the nuclear deal take a listen the time has come for the United Kingdom germany france russia and china to recognize this reality they must now break away from the remnants of the iran who are j c p a way and we must all Work Together toward making a deal with the rand that makes the world a safer and more Peaceful Place i mean hes saying lets negotiate something new. The foreign minister here in germany is saying we have to stick with what we already have what do what does germany what de france the u. K. What do you have at your disposal to force or coerce iran to stick with this deal. The president makes a contradiction out of both he says a new negotiation and a new day lets not deal is not possible. As long as we have this is he c. P. O. And i didnt agree on that i think we can stay to the cheese c. P. O. And negotiate on all the other crucial topics we have on the agenda was iran iran is not only planning to have a nuclear bomb they also developing me sides to transport those bombs they are sponsoring terror organizations all over the region that they are sponsoring is a yemen ball they are taking israel not only with lip service but also with myside from hezbollah in lebanon and there are a lot of behavior of iran that cannot be accepted and im true that im sure that also russia and china. Is not willing to accept a more aggressive and stronger iran therefore i see a chance to negotiate and i take i would like to take the president by its words at the end of the quote you took that we should try to have a new negotiations and a new deal and one of the premises for those this is not to skips the way im still probably to make it but im starting to this week there were reports that china has offered military assistance to iraq which is you know a change in the Power Dynamics in the middle east how do you see that and is there any is there a german plan is there a european plan to deal with an emerging chinese power in the middle east. Chinese china is doing their part really expected if theres a record on Security Issues in the region and this probably might come up in case that u. S. Troops will be taken away from iraq then probably china is able to step into that vacuum as ive heard this was a high ranking delegation of the Chinese Government was the for the defense minister. Going. Presenting this this plan. But unfortunately i didnt see a chance for europe to replace us i would like to try a new attempt that probably together with us we can reach a continuation of that but we already do in the. Coalition and in this support fall for iraq we were on a good way and we should continue that we should creatures situation probably the Iraqi Government is accepting again over the american troops in the country and government can probably convince the parliament that under newsom stances it is better to have them in the country than not ok as to your going hard to the Foreign Policy spokesperson for the c. D. U. The conservative party of german chancellor Angela Merkel mr hart we appreciate your time tonight in your insights thank you very much goodbye. And more than 170 people have died after a ukrainian passenger jet crashed in iran it calls for the crash is not yet known in the Ukraine International airlines jet was on its way from irans capital tehran last night to kiev graines president will be as olinsky has broken off a foreign visit to return to kiev because of the disaster the president says that ukraine will be sending a search and rescue team to iran tonight. A field of burning debris lights up the sky near tehran. The apparent remnants of the Ukraine International Airlines Flight that crashed shortly after takeoff from the iranian capital. Iranian t. V. Stations are the 1st to broadcast images of the crash including this mobile phone video which appears to show the plane going down. Its daybreak that reveals the extent of the destruction and the human toll. The plane it was carrying 167 passengers and 9 crew members from several Different Countries mainly iran and canada. Much nobody survived all the passengers are dead no doubt that. At the International Airport in kiev the arrivals board lists the flight that would never arrive. People here are distraught this man thinks his son was in fact on the plane. But. Yes most of. My son is a senior flight attendant. Iranian and ukrainian officials have both blamed mechanical problems for the crash but the airline says its still trying to determine the cause. A statement by Ukraine International airlines said the plane was one of the best in its fleet and that the aircraft had passed a safety check just 2 days earlier. As iranians mourn another tragedy ukraines president and others have warned against speculating about a potential link to the current flare up in iran u. S. Tensions however Current Events are very much on peoples minds. I was watching the news of the reunions hitting us pieces with missiles after 10 minutes i heard a massive explosion and all the hoses started to shake there was fire everywhere at 1st i thought the americans have fired missiles and i went into the basement to take shelter said fms as an infant. And a few hours after the crash the Ukrainian Embassy in iran released a statement saying the crash was not a result of terrorism that statement was later redacted. As investigators search for answers a number of airlines have suspended flights over iranian airspace and on the ground emergency workers are getting on with the grim task of recovering the dead. 2020 visiting. China and the United States parting ways in the technology sphere to social and political unrest in latin america and india to the challenges of a potentially contested us president ial election we see a mounting threat of Global Crisis Eurasia Group has identified the top 10 risks of the year. The Political Economic and environmental factors impacting the world in ways we havent seen for generations. Well it is that time of year again the geopolitical risk from Eurasia Group has published its annual list of top wrists for the new year its a forecast of the political dangers that are most likely to play out over the course of 2020 in 8th place on your region groups risk list but usually relevant today with iran and the u. S. Pulling back from the brink of a military clash Eurasia Group dubs the risk of the shia crescendo take a look. At. The u. S. Policy toward the major shia led nations in the middle east is imploding that creates significant risks for regional stability including a lethal conflict with iran upper trash on oil prices and iraqi state that is either in irans orbit or failing and just syria used to moscow and have ron. And the talk about that risk and many more tonight im joined by muslim an o. B. D. Chief executive officer with Eurasia Group he joins me from new york its good to have you on the show the i want to ask you the events of the past few days that weve seen in the u. S. And iran that i mean does that force you when you look at the sheer crescendo does that mean we need to maybe rename it the shia diminuendo or the shia staccato i mean has it changed your forecast. But as you might imagine there was a hot debate about the name of that risk but id like to actually point out that in this report that we released on monday which would be after the soleimani assassination. Or killing but before the events of last night we actually identified the fact that there will be no war with iran in 2028 as a red herring. We did not think contrary to popular belief that this is going to be. A risk that really implodes into the worst case now and we when we ranked this shii crescendo at number 8 there is a reason for that because we do not expect at the end of the day that neither side especially the us president has the willingness to go to war with iran where new surprised at how quickly the conflict seemed just to dissipate you know 48 hours we had people talking about fears of a major conflagration and tonight we have the u. S. President tweeting that you know things look good. Well absolutely one has to be honest that the specific instances of Geopolitical Uncertainty especially policy uncertainty coming out of the u. S. As well as the pace of events in the last few months in years have to spin anybodys head however we here at Eurasia Group focus on the structural underpinnings of these risks and when you look at that the alternate outcome was not a surprise to us as it was reflected there no risks and our red herrings the president clearly surprised the iranians who had been logged into as believe that the u. S. Was not going to at all retaliate after a few months ago that in response to iranian bombing of a refined hearing in saudi arabia the u. S. Did not respond that in bold and the iranians to take more and more aggressive measures at the margin they clearly miscalculated the president surprised them with a hit on so they money and what we saw happen over the last 24 hours was a very careful recalibration of their response recalibration thats a very good word we saw on this past week reports that china has perhaps offered military assistance to iraq suggesting growing influence in the middle east for the chinese and that brings us to the risk in the china u. S. War dynamic what do you see happening this year between these 2 powers. Well we think that the great decoupling that technologically and in terms of great power rivalry between us and china that we are witnessing happening today is probably the single largest geo Political Development in the last generation. This risk is not going to go away we certainly expect the decoupling to continue in 2020 and in fact metastasized and broaden beyond technology and beyond the specific sectors like 5 g. Example of wall way and quantum computing get beyond that to the entire tech sector frankly more and more seed into other areas like media telecommunication entertainment as well as Academic Research so this divided this the couple and this is here to stay there and Climate Change it is here to stay at least for a while what is your assessment in terms of i were ability to take the steps that Scientists Say we have to take in order to prevent a Climate Change tragedy by the year 2100. Yes if as im sure your viewers know the paris treaty try to compel the body politic and then the world to move towards a 2 percent warming at least to slow down the pace of warming to 2 degrees but right now were on track for 3 and a half degrees in a crease in temperature in the next few decades what we want to highlight by clothing this clash of increased demand for action with the imperatives of corporations as a top risk this year is that this is going to be an increasingly. Worrying development and something where corporations investors have to take seriously. And what were trying to do here is raise the flag. And make that case a muzzle weve got about one minute i want to ask you about breaks it you dont list breaks it as a wrist itself but we can read between the lines when you talk about europe and geopolitics in europe but what about brics it is it is it going to be a flash in the pan or is this a big act of state so were saw it in terms of risks moving forward. I think were all happy not to have to talk about directed as intensely as we have over the last 3 or 4 years or 2020 and we think 2020 is going to be a year abroad standstill on this issue certainly we expect the u. K. To. Leave the e. U. Now by the end of january of this month obviously 2020 is going to be a transition year but at the end of this process given the hardening stances now by the e. U. And the new e. U. Really leadership as well as president not brawn and given Prime Minister johnsons political imperatives we expect alternately within a year finally to get some resolution towards an agreement that looks like a bare bones Free Trade Agreement possibly on goods all right well we look forward to talking with you throughout the year and that will also talk to you within one year from now and see how good these risk assessments hold all the armin over the chief executive officer with Eurasia Group concerts could have you on the show thank you my pleasure. Well the day is almost done the conversation continues online and find us on twitter either a d w news or you can follow me at beauregard t. V. Dont use the hash tag the date every member whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day busier than ever. In athens they call him the king of the homeless. Christos amish country. He provides jobs 1st treat people in his own cafes. To help them start their own newspaper. But best of all hes helped to restore their sense of dignity. 90 minutes. Actually to christmas or just shows up if such a threat shows how much. The islamists. Of the sort of ways to kill for good. Global auto mobility show every week w. A fuel with words. Where i come from we dont run away from a call from tension. When i was 5 years old my father took me to his friends and i was focused on the spot. A sports i feel months old mental soul. Fencing is a language and a good source for it is a conversation. Must make your opponent understand that thinking middle of the men to get close otherwise you can score a hit. Its not unlike a tough interview really when interviewing politicians all culprits c. E. O. s you have to wait for the right moment just to get around that defensiveness then make your dog fit. Yes or take risks to get results. Ive got alphas and i work at the deli. Its all happening. During leaked news from africa the moral link to exceptional stories and discussions continue on with comes after cutting programs not from fun. Easy town not with safety deputed comes next africa joined us on facebook and t. W. Africa. This is your news from berlin the u. S. And iran stepping back from the brink. The american people. Should be extremely grateful and happy no americans were harmed. In last nights attack by the Iranian Regime. President promising more sanctions against iran but says he wants peace not war and questions remain the iranian air strikes