Political prisoners have seen no shame for the torture that was perpetrated and the lives that were ruined during his time in office. Highly miami. Welcome to contact so thank you so much thank you for having ethiopia has a new Prime Minister now happy who took over after you resigned last year hes now received a Nobel Peace Prize basically for undoing many of the evils of your government and doing what you couldnt do within 100 days. Dont you feel something of a failure when you look at what you. Know that because. I have done my share to bring this change to happen. Primus therapy has not come from blue moon it has come from the party which i was there is a dean here but hes begun correcting the massive human rights abuses which were a prominent feature of your tell you at least that is it is that my party which started the reform process and we say. The process should be a deep one to the country basically but also to the party itself so i think that is a process which yielded Prime Minister rabin. Prime minister so he continued the process pro reform my gender that my party and his party whether this is Nobel Committee cited his achievements as lifting the country state of emergency granting amnesty to thousands of Political Prisoners for years you always denied there were in the scrapping Media Censorship legalising outlawed opposition groups dismissing military and civilian leaders suspected of corruption all the things that you failed to do when you were in office by the way do you know that 9095 percent of the prisoners being released due to my office spent before i left office and before i resigned so i think what id be did was that remaining 5 percent which has to be released so the decision was a decision of the party. And i took that action before i resigned how many did you release almost 4000000 something how many more than 3000 or so you know where there were many more than 3000 in jail yeah but its only young people whove recently been arrested been released but the main political figures which has been that mr been released during my term before i resigned in may this year the attorney general. Filed criminal charges against your former intelligence chief get a. You asked for alleging human rights abuses and corruption hes gone missing that you know where he would i dont know why im not in office now more information 20 other people were charged with him he had served until june 28th seen. He had served you as Prime Minister who were denying that any human rights abuses were being committed i think youre lucky information lou youre lucky riddance it is my government and my party who have admitted that there has been. Moderates abuse it is you start the year off to hear an interview say nobodys being mistreated we have no Political Prisoners one most of the other you gave interviews sitting smiling across the billions of us say no everythings fine here maybe you are reasonable and you have to understand the way how our part to operate the modern way of the state in the way you operate with if you like yourself let me finish 1st if thats the case then you know that we have been historically you have to understand that in the 1st place this is a party fighting left and you know us. When there is a communist mentality and when its a marxist mentality there is a centralism. You dont go into after war after your Party Decides one issue even though you have differences in as a minority you take with you so you just hold the line whatever it is because youre too cowardly to say anything about whats really going all. The instance lets use that sort of misplacing the whole thing is that we believe that in our party and the government that we need to reform our system we need to bring about changes and we need to democratize our country because thats a country we number of interest is and there is an internet. You know ethnic mobilized politics which is very dangerous and therefore we have we have decided that we need to go or how does that end diddly in the forming our country wishes or something shell be abuse in washington you didnt do the need were going to be forced to well if you had done that Prime Minister when he came in by ms that abby wouldnt have had to condemn Police Brutality pledged to return rein in the Security Services tackle what he called economic mismanagement corruption and rights abuses all of this spending far as you want to spin off this is also misplaces because produce that abby has not come from a blue moon he has built another way where he came for us and theyre with us hes cleaning up the mess isnt he no no its not hes not cleaning up this mess is hes going on your messed up the mess you left dark knight i think this is also misplacing and i only say that you know correctly this is our partys admission of our collective mistake and then we put in place properly based on the things that you failed to do by november last year dozens of Intelligence Officers and high level officials have been arrested including people from the military run the metals and Engineering Corp met tech on charges of corruption and human rights abuses you let them put those charges through that speed that is the study which i introduced 1000000 to be finished i mean it. November last year you werent in office i did it you dont have been a business i did it i lunched in the studies and then completion of that the studies then action has been the attorney general said 63 people have been arrested that months november last year 27 for corruption 36. 00 on charges of Human Rights Violations that included the former head of mattick conflict dagen youre a Brigadier General over whom you did nothing you did nothing about me that you lucky with this i love the study and a group of people who study the study its charging people with human rights in your life and charge at every issue of illegal you show up to challenge people after you said after concretely when there is a criminal Investigation Unit that investigation has been launched by may 3rd local media said huge sums of money were missing from this company a matter of whether the girl let the let the court decide on it as Prime Minister he was supposed to look after the Public Places the military was supposed to follow the orders. And you for seem to fail spectacularly to make them do that since you feel any remorse at the crimes you were allowed to take place when you were Prime Minister no i think i have resigned because i was not able to you know change dramatically whatever has to come between 2 week no i i say fiction actually i have my own the strangeness and i have my own weaknesses and you have to not to look into only the weaknesses but you had also see the strengths of this country has gone and you know you know that my country has been visited during my tenure by 6 of the 77 leaders and they all announced that this country has been working very hard at double digit grows and they cannot make. Achievements where we have its difficult to our people out of poverty the only country which has actually and. 7 out of this 8 images and now whether the by the United Nations by my time so i think you have to see all those positive things we have achieved last day of the last of mr the attorney general. Said investigated her uncovered serious abuses by Security Services at secret prisons in the capital and elsewhere to know what your Security Officers were doing in the single prisons i dont know those big smites machu picchu ever asked i go to visit how can i do or if your intelligence doesnt give me information how can you know there were plenty of foreign reports that torture was going on which you did learn it in new york and now youre telling me you didnt know what was going on or i did it so your scenario is no service your denials were just proforma denials no are not going to know everything when you were in office no not at all you did you said they dont know everything you didnt you didnt know what was going on in these prisons you didnt ask you werent interested. They know in his Office Shelley we know some of the abuse this and i have taken in my time some of the actions. Of those things but i didnt know that there are you know informal prisons which has been there to turn each other said there are d people who have been blinded and held in darkness for long periods of time others have been left infertile because of blows to their genitals there are some that had limbs broke or women have been subjected to go rape and men have been sort of modest all this happened until your rule so i had to ask you once you were shame that this was going to noon until you were ruled no i mean it is a ship that when this happened but i didnt know those things and if i knew those things they would architected them because this is a very sacred things happen well itll take you long for this Prime Minister to find out what was going on so obviously nice looking in like place and you do not believe you know i didnt want to look at each area i am near whom for this Prime Minister to art i been very hard to bring him to power and i did every you lost your job thats why you gave up you lost control of the party lost faith in you thats why you gave up what i think you can you can say that going to struggling to control the rest of the country because failure cases that is going out in it myself i did it intentionally because i wanted to see that this change should come so i think this is genuinely what has happened and i did my best in paving the way for this to happen so i think that has to be clearly kind of did i did i think a big clearly wriggle of it when we have been in your prisons during your term in office with being subjected to gang rape and men to so the money ization now that you know this even if you say you didnt know it at the time. Where is your apology to the victims i didnt want to be a political winner when they said when i resigned because thats the system which was open to me i meant to give you meant to the victims and apologize personally to them if there is a need to be a when you havent done so have you i know i have i have been to get the chance and i with we have with conciliation and through them into consideration commission established and ask process is how do you sleep at night knowing that this was going on in your torture centers carried out by your officials when you were Prime Minister if you sleep at night if i knew then i say to you that i was there to collect everything in my disposal if i knew it but i did know that your meal your said to be a religious man from a family of pentecostalists start right strong. How does gang rape and sodomy zation fit in with your religious values no i didnt know i say if a new it doesnt fit in in my prayers but you went on denying it denying it denouncing those born they average interview that thats the report they have noisy despite the reports they can be avoided leaving the human Rights Groups all over the world which you just rubbished you said thats not true theyre outside as there are enemies dont listen to them everything is following you said i think i have never said everything is fine you said there was no mystery letters i said there was no mistreatment going on there is a problem but i was saying that my report is that its not to the extent where has been said thats what i say by then any case i report which i wish i was giving to the public which which was the case lets take another Detention Center gigo Central Prison otherwise known as jail regional Detention Center in the east of the country but ministered in public by your special police it was closed in august last year do you know what was going on there as well no i dont know why not you knew the prison existed and you know what you want i do i will give you reason to you have no curiosity mr high among you didnt want to know what was going on in your jails no its not the case you know that if you tell governments have their own rights and i think the whole thing is i did my my work according to the reports they get from my intelligence and from my sources and therefore thats what what was their kids. People reported there were many of the former prison of those who said they saw people dying in their cells after being tortured by officials in this our garden jailers as it was called what should happen to the officials who carried out this torture. I mean what should happen to the. Dead in prison and thats it. Just prison sentences and what should happen to you for turning a blind eye to it that depends on the legal system of the country you know either his own simply because to take all the responsibilities but what is extraordinary is that with all the abuses that were carried out when you were Prime Minister you accepted from the new Prime Minister the nations highest award for Service Without even blushing without any embarrassment whatsoever now that you know what was going on while you were Prime Minister why didnt you give back a little more. Why should i because i have a number of positive things i have because you failed to show all this is one part of it and that is if judge the incident that sells you tallest is a huge lie walk in my my country that doesnt explain thats not the only thing you know i have done many good things there are issues in the system without a failure which i initiated to reform and did conduct reform because i understood that age of you know before the news admission and the stood that there are something going on therefore i initiated this reform and then i have released 95 percent of the you were insured office for 6 years and this new Prime Minister has come in and done more for human rights than you did in all the time you were there this because they paved the way for him barely the Us State Department in 2016 published a catalogue of the human rights abuses taking place under your rule which of course you deny it but theyre never known to be true arbitrate killings disappearances torture harsher life threatening prison conditions detention without charge you know minute what they really want but its what they said would you savage you didnt know what was going on when all these reports were pointing to what was yes and whenever they knew that there are things going wrong i initiated that form and the serious reform and the before and thats the result where the Prime Minister has come into power. You said when your is all in that you wanted to be part of the solution in ethiopia how can you be part of the solution when you so much part of the problem. You know i would become part of the solution because in there is a problem which would result in procuring to created the atmosphere of permissive about this fear in which your Security Officials believe they could torture but it was all right to torture go on torturing disappearing people not a judicial examination of the you created the atmosphere in which that was possible no i didnt create the atmosphere so our profile is and then the constitutional system has been established then anyone who is in a world where there is could be accounted for but i didnt create this this point used to be environment for them it is a deep system which i was not able to look into because of my background and because of my you know i must say that are coming into the deep system so i couldnt see that when mr big came into power he couldnt wait to condemn the legacy of your government and draw a line in the time in office could be a pro last year he said that the government your government had sanctioned torture of its prisoners and said it had been guilty of state terrorism you said it he said in parliament does the constitution say anyone who was sentenced by a court can be tortured put in a dog lets say doesnt thats the rule that the government was in his eyes were not only mine you were the Prime Minister i was crazy this all had a fight with you is there also the buck stopped yeah you could literally decided to reform including indian out of what the responsibility lay highly in or do you argue yet you this yes it is that youre trying to get out of it why do you try to get out of his relationship and form thats why allegation that you know why im here to tell you for the here in a show usual for you blocked every attempt by the United Nations special rapporteur that should tell you or anyone has a call from an attack issued to morrow before you should. Come up from us and the only message you need locked i only reason you blocked and i only wish to gating was because you didnt want them to find out what was going on i did and i initiated that it for them before my eyes that mission a year will undoubtedly for me is that what the result of pain is that im going to come to power conjured so beautiful light to all of it in him to pollack hundreds of people were killed in the your regime and you refused to have an independent investigation led by the u. N. Chief human rights official if you ask the killings the last one and half years the number of killings side passed in 6 years what happened in my town if you ask for killings look that is ridiculous so the whole thing is you know i initiated this new form a year ago before my 2nd mission and i pave the way in for the new system you would have this in the bush was mean you say you are surely to reform you created a regime where people were tortured and disappeared and had their rights taken away from them consistently tens i have our thousands of people i mean this is not only did our ambassadors are getting a basket an apology to my people that the region has some abuses of you know who my doubts and the deficit and democracy and that has happened i am and i still feel that and sort of for that but i can dish it out so much will come thats not much of an apology as it really is as a half hearted apology no it is not a new we are not resigning you know i could have taken you to the last as many Leadership Programs are to do and they want you to stay lost the faith or not i havent lost that Security Forces havent watched the army theyre all going to have a rest for a rest and they should know by this that they should have been investigated under your time a worthwhile one to continue eyes of the others you know i could have used everything up to the. Last of my bit if you want you know was the least a dictatorship yet you always claimed to mock received took time you always said this is a fledgling democracy it takes time and society this is what every dictator says like the way they just said well if you give ill follow your yourself in europe you passed through a number of signal wars therefore you cases you want to present very do you know you do says its not our big possibility and thats on the far east basis while they show illegal United States everywhere in the western countries you democracy has taken power and it has not come in one short and one day and one week and 1000000 it has taken you to much of that school and that will continue democracy is building them up and the culture here has no justice everything to slow it down this trial of murder and weve never shied away from associations or friendships either with indicted or convicted war criminals do they hold some special fascination for you these people of which ones like mr r. Bushehr the former president of sudan in august you posted a controversial picture on facebook of you smiling next to ethiopia as exiled marxist leader Mengistu Haile mariam and then you took it out when there was a huge outcry because this man of course was found guilty in the sense here of genocide by the way i met him incidentally when i was there in some buy when he was in the president s office when i was there in the president s office when i made him and i talked to him so thats what happened in any case and you posted a comment saying i wish to see more former heads of government and states in my country contributing their parts in different capacity of the peaceful transition of political blogs out there is not me it is the officers there who did it and they say this is wrong. So you dont want mr mingus to with his conviction for genocide to play a part in the new ethiopia i think if we go through a true isnt it a Consolidation Commission and if he is on some given chance to you know to apologize and then anything what the through Senate Conservation commission bleeds into it i then that leads the country in its sequential mission i have a deep belief that we need conciliation what mother says well some of the past even the future is words of support from others that genocide is not something you just you just other see by just feeling our way when youre heralded it was relation to dr may come to explain to me please how a conviction for one of the most serious crimes on the planet would qualify mr mingus to contribute to the well being of your country i would i would imagine with a qualification like that. I think it depends on how then a conviction for the side of genocide for the most serious and probably not you are entirely this is south africa as if you can say. A part of it isnt genocide its the whole marinette for you its not just a few times it is more than genocide where is your truth and Reconciliation Commission it is that has been established and we see that is that 4 years up our time is not before us it is so youre quite happy for convicted war criminals to come back to your country and play their part good old boys good old boy solution procedure i love that yes if not then no how should future generations in africa protect themselves from people like you they should democrat that is the countrys growth dictators like you know. I think leveling media title is wrong is wrong this is use is not my my people. So i think this is misplacing again. This is it from your side. I learned thank you very much for being the culprits themselves. The be. 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