Of the Us Backed Government of National Accord closely allied to groups of armed militias which are being credited with serious human rights abuses does a government like that still does a supporter of the west. Welcome to call it so i know. Last april donald trump showered complements on your main rival in libya only for half which clearly shocked you and yet you claim to come back with a message that the us was still behind you whats the evidence for that well pretty we believe that weve been a us ally for quite a long time we were fighting type science to fight isis and libya times change the kurds thought that. Well well im a changed because we cannot apply what happened in syria and libya and im talking about how alliances come and. Mr trump said that he appreciated mr have to a significant role in fighting terrorism their shared vision for libyas transition to a stable democracy high praise from the leader of the western world for your main enemy isnt that standing by you its a pretty look almost anybody can. Say those things about you know we still believe that. The administration of United States that mr ation of the white house believed down some wrong mistakes so long messages have been around about have to and hes fighting terrorism i think the force in the u. S. Is badly informed yes i think the president by the informed and i believe that the message passed yesterday from the Foreign Ministers would libyan Foreign Ministers and the libyan internal ministers that they want to see libyan stable and the problem in libya certainly through a political process yeah but they dont necessarily want you to win anymore do they. The issue is not winning a war we are fighting for what you want to talk to have to really be ruled out talking to no its not the relations between the genie government and have to order a government of national yes then after our government we believe that the libyan people should went for bringing libya to stability to have a democratic countries to have a country which rules by law and not getting back to a military rule and for the good you say this is so in june that just as likely to be you flatly rejected the idea of talking to have to have stuck cant be trusted you said talking with after is out of the question we need a bar as what you said when you go to Peace Process you need a bottles and it was after he wants you to talk to. You know on the same page there well why should want you to talk know why she said that washington story wasnt a did not say that we want to they want us to talk with after and wasnt and say that the political process should be peacefully not through a military. You know attacking tripoli is not the solution they did say the state Department Official said in april the u. S. Is consulting with a broad range of libyan leaders as well as our International Partners to print press for stabilization and bring Prime Minister else iraq and general hafta back to the negotiating table so they want you to talk this you think they stay in the same position after 88 months of fighting around tripoli after all the attack on hospitals and schools after all their lives there we lost from both sides on that i think the u. S. Message is completely different today i think they want to look at who are causing this war in libya and whos. Because in this brooksley world you hope its different but you have no evidence that its different in june we had the acting u. S. Defense secretary Patrick Shanahan also saying what weve said before what i do support is fieldmarshal have to support in terms of his role in counterterrorism but where we need to support is in building democratic stability in the region so there talking still talking about multi players talking to each other yes but at the same issue have to send a clear message to everybody that he dont want a democracy in libya he want all libyans for quite some times until he see that libya stable to go for them kristie i think this is a conflict with in what you project to say from the Foreign Ministers or. The defense minister youve been pushing the message for a long time the d. N. A. Has been pushing the message for a long time that you can win and that you will finally beat him back outside of tripoli and he knows the game is over it doesnt seem to know that the game is over why have you misled people like this will you think we mislead people i believe after 8 months he did not succeed to get into tripoli after 8 months of fighting with all the support that have to be getting from outside libya he didnt win that he didnt get a libya in tripoli he said that i will be in tripoli in 2 days and he said that repeatedly the g. And a is a bust of the past now we are since the 4th of april was almost for 8 months he did not succeed and as you look at the way around the sematic whats driving this conflict isnt just the failure to hold talk its the fact that the war economy developed over many years has made libyas militia groups absurdly rich and they refused to give this up that and that includes militias that are allied to your government as well well we have a clear program. To clean up tripoli and clean up libya from militia and our program stop you havent got very far will we start and in february with our internet ministers but unfortunately have to attack and the 4th of april and make all disputed graham just stand and stop so its clear that he want to cause he want to use any excuse to attack tripoli does not a problem of militia not a problem of economics windage in a government came to power the production of oil was just 120 better the day to day we are talking about 1001000000 200000 barrels a day when we came to bowen in libya the libyan currency had a lot of problems lets talk about lets talk about these militia groups because in october the world bank said there was now an open war in your country for power and wealth capture and report after report has suggested that only the militia groups hold sway in your country that the Prime Minister has little if any real power over the whole country or indeed the forces which are under his control power rests mostly in the hands of the militia cartel this is the view of the small arms. Well a 1000001 side and one side the whole ward stand by the chimney politically in public announcement but under the table many of these countries are supporting this militia and thats why we have the problems we want to clearance from the rest of the world and country who are helping us in 2011 that they are really stand by their governor rastan and world is pulling you to cut your links with these corrupt militia groups who you continue to ally with yeah but still were going to jump some of this country as they make this will it diminish our strongest and this is exactly what were looking for that in better lean process theyd stop helping different than the government of libya whos helping whos helping these many countries which European Countries our neighbor countries and some arab countries so so youre blaming it on the on the europeans that you have close ties with murdering militia groups who extort who fire off their weapons against civilian areas its all europes fault is it and that they are deeply involved in the corruption of your administration well they dont trust the government they believe that some of the militia are stronger than the government and they make will they improve havent they well they dont prove it when they have to attack tripoli everybody was aligned with the government to different the capital from the military rulers who want to rule the country take the back are a battle and it was ordered by the g. N. A. T. Disband after its leader repeatedly involved in fighting at tripoli airport he took no notice the special Deterrence Force this is a group that detained 2 journalists for questioning and arrested others without warrant one of its commander said we cant act as if the government were in a position to give us orders in other words they take no notice of you so thats how but some much influence you have on these militias we need time to bring. Our military together we need time to make our security brittle you shouldnt of got into bed with these deeply corrupt violent also there is a bad and with this militia disposition was existing before the general government even exist we came in power would with more than 30 or 35. 00 militia in tripoli now we have only a few more less than 3 or 4 in tripoli and now under your government a cartel of 4 major militia groups have gradually divided up the capital between themselves and they now hold you and the government of National Accord ransom to their changing demands and this feuds and corruption well i think you have some good information but some of your information is quite old since that that factor of tripoli everybody is united under the umbrella of the jenin we dont have militias who. As both for as your reporter explained your own interior minister. He blurted it out during an interview in january he said his interior Ministry Budget force under the control of militia groups by force thats what he set the ministries expenses have reached 300000000 dinars and widespread corruption was found so he said his Ministry Budget belongs to one when mr bush of our our ministers say that the holy war should say that he started his program to clean up his ministers from this corrupted militia training and youre government is rotten to the core with these people involved in the new budgets taking over your budgets by force its rotten to the core is no thats why we have a new ministers thats why he started his program in the last mars so Everybody Knows that you cannot clean up from 30 militia in one day you wake up and you have all things done you need times and the process and the extortioners go on and youve let it happen and they have over the years the last 2 years they. Extorted in attempted to extort huge sums of money from the government you have to look at the whole story the government of genie came to power in 2016 was outside to tripoli came to tripoli clean up a tree body from a lot of militia to start this war against i says insert after all the time he says he is after video. And i have to say you have to say you have to say that you clean a bunch. Of them there but never mention that that insert he done the job we done the job after only 4 months of arriving in tripoli at the same time as your militia groups are extorting from you you know that exactly when the country is divided you have to work 1st and you have to have priorities which hour by hour to cleaning up the country from isis or fighting the militia mr moti if you dont stand for law and order and an end to corruption you dont stand for anything at all no we really dont we do but we get to our country and our country had a long war with isis for more than a year and a half once we done with isis we started up to rebuild our Financial Institutions and when we get to our Financial Institution we find a problem with asia and we have problems with our Oil Production at the same time we find have to attacking oil field and we dont want to go in conflict with him because we have our internal problem with the mission so we have a buyer at ease as i explained to you we have ability isis issues arising the production of oil making the life libyans better and of course we have to clean up our country from militia and they are controlling of our many of those are usually wrong way round because these militia groups have carried out extrajudicial executions they have attacked civilians and civilian properties and abducted tortured and disappeared people maybe you should have started with them all we have the law and the hold on. The hold they have on your government minutes we have a problems with our borders we have a broad rooms with refugees we have a problems of Illegal Immigrants we have a problem is to make our libyan currency for the 6 millions for libyans their life betters to improve their economies we have to find a way to have you know step one at the time we cannot do it all at the same time how can you claim them to be any kind of legitimate to authority when your own affiliates murder and steal their way around your country with absolute impunity none of these militia groups have been brought to account theres no intention to bring them to account is that of course you could have taken some of the leaders you could have put them on trial if you were really serious about doing something yeah and you bet your capital your own capital at the risk at the same time there isnt a terrorist attack in the city in libya so there we were going to ask at the end of the day are you worth saving as a government are you really worth it. Of course we are worth of america life to have been better if we saved the life people and sort we live for you we make the life of the libyans instead of having what 1. 00 is for 40 dollars today is for dinners for one day you know what when will you live better than a 3rd of your people want to leave the country well one of them want to leave your country well because the people who are out of the country who are helping the other side attacking the capitals and making the life of libyan worst and causing a proxy war in libya and what about cleaning up the appalling treatment of many thousands of migrants in your country in june the un high commissioner for human rights urged you to launch an immediate investigation into the disappearance of more than 150 migrants from the Detention Center under the oversight of your department for combat in illegal migration fact is that 203 people were delivered on may the 23rd by june the 7th the facility reported that only 30 were left what happened to these people when we have a lot of immigrants in libya who was not staying there and did that enter since particularly disturbing in the light of the fact that immigrant migrants are being sold into forced labor to smugglers who promise them transit to europe and theyre being sold from the other homes and that libya alone cannot deal with the immigrants or shows this is you cant deal with slave this is no no you cant do is lay this is a report had done we have no proof of it ok and we work closely with our you know ministers you have north of you know this is going on here youve known for the last 2 years it was good no this is not right this is not this is false information we have no slavery in libya we have no what so call a slavery issue libya we have to work with International Community what is the complete what is an illegal and you are you know when i was on your i was not what all the reports have been saying that opel are being sold to people trafficker traffickers. And women are being sold for Sexual Exploitation you denial that you we have no information as a government otherwise we do our job how come they have much more information than you they are better informed than you will where as they are when the government is working closely with the International Community to save the lives in the middle of the mediterranean seas where is this reports when our coast guard would just very few visitors that we have we saved 1000 the fly every morning and every day where to disagree ports when we try to help this immigrants and the middle of Sahara Desert bring their life to more stable and leave libya we have more than 800000 immigrant to live yet live close to what libyans with all of the reports weve been do you know a lot weve been working a lot to save the life of immigrants we believe that we should have bitter reports and bit of understanding of the problems if the International Community is committed and willing to work with the libyans not sending audio messages about slavery libya we have been promises a lot on the lot from europeans but nothing been done many of the since 2 so your said i was sponsibility for the so im not denying responsibility if something happened and we are responsible for it as a government of libya we will do our best and we are committed to work with International Community american to a life of the immigrants is better but what they will be and what then to National Community done or this is why they are accusing the libyans this is the way why they did not do what they have to do with the libyans when we as a citizen of we ask for help to do our rebuttal graham they have theyve been giving you plenty of training in law has been given nothing of training and you and you in your code they are yours european and European Committee many times a Commuter Community many times that their promises its very very very low than what they already brought us us if you were doing so much yourself why do you continue to him. Ploy people in your coast guard have been sanctioned by the u. N. Im thinking of one of your coast guard officials. Millard according to a sanctions listing from june last year he heads the regional unit of the coast guard in zawiya that is consistently linked with violence against migrant and other human smugglers while you still employ these people i think there is a report coming from our minister of interior saying clearly that he is not an employee for minister of internal the u. N. Panel of experts claims that he and other coast guard members directly involved in the sinking of migrant boats using firearms the un says this coast guard is consistently linked and you say you know nothing about it no i said our minister from germany they have a clear statement that this man is not an employee by the minister of internal so who is employed by the coast guard can well he has the coast guard coding according to the sanctions listing says that he collaborates with other migrant smugglers such as mohammed catch lafe who sources suggest is providing protection to him to carry out illicit operations related to the trafficking and smuggling of migrants several people in criminal investigations have stated they were picked up at sea by armed men on a coast guard ship called tele ill used by millet and taken to the Detention Center where they are reportedly held in brutal conditions and subjected beatings he of course denies any wrongdoing. Of course if Something Like this happened we as a government condemned all of this kind of actions and if hes working with our minister of interior or our coast guard he should do band and killed in 2017 the u. N. Secretary general appealed to your government to investigate reports of slaves being sold in libya and you personally you personally announced the setting up of a commission of inquiry to investigate where is this commission of inquiry or the commission the un has never heard of it yeah the un had of the whole report about it and i want mr instead of justice read this commission and have a clearer ground thats why so thats all you know is nobody you know we talked to including the un has never heard of this commission that was set up you say no we said it and the headed by them one minister frontier and and theyve done 2 public announcement about the whole report about slavery about that is dont think its slavery in libya and this is was a for that symbolism simply in direct contradiction to all the reports that have pointed to it well for a city of report maybe youve got only the 1st part of the report you dont follow up with the rest of the you cant even tell me where these people incomes went when you were contacted by the un and asked pacifically earlier this year where did these people go to well you are talking about disappeared you did not disappear and they went out of their center well they said there is more than 800000 immigrant live in libya outside the centers so you cannot claim disguise is went out of the center and theyre not leaving Good Condition in libya. The u. S. Embassy says that the endemic corruption in your government and the militia influence over government ministries has contributed to your inability to address trafficking effectively you have some responsibility for this you have responsibility for these migrants many of whom are kept in appalling conditions indefinitely subject to abuse beaten up some in conditions that amount to torture are you prepared one day to go into a court of law and justify why you kept people in these conditions as long as we have information about whats happening in the centers and thats why we have a regular visitor from the commissioner from new and different places we are doing our best to keep this up to standard its not so honestly that was but sometimes sometimes it is difficult to deal with this when theres somebody attacking hospital and school in your town and your country you cannot. Talk about immigrants and their problems i know its a humanitarian tragedy and were pretty if we will do our best despite that there is nothing has been done from the International Community that has not been done there is no real help what you hear its only see who is to blame some no im not blaming them were not of blaming them with you we have a large window of the responsible we are we are we are an african nations and are up the nations and the mediterranean and there is a responsibility lie on our shoulders as a government of libya but we are in time for and conflict and thats why we need the International Community to stand by us helping us to manage this fight its a big fight libya cannot deal with this fight alone and thats why we ask the International Community standards to get rid of the militias of course we need 20 what we did get the flu shot we need to get rid of the military rulers we need to have a better life of libya when the government of National Called has been look at what the government of National Call did look in 34 years name one government in the world then liberate a city like sirte from isis without any water on the ground helping the libyans the libyan did that a lot the government beyond the war and that that of half tours of the capital that we have a bitter financial. And you have a long list and you have a long list of failures as well of course it is very long im something im not found go to even use a mac is a reforms im not you agree last year yes i think fuel subsidies only thing unifying the central bank failure to settle the teachers is not our failure to invest in basic services no electricity no no i saw this i said its very clear for me that we had a lot of Success Stories and we have a failure. We have a Success Story that we can brow different we are very proud for the government but the same times we have a problems because there is there is very limited time there all was there was a problems would conflict in libya there is always that the country has or doesnt want to be stable and there is a big challenge for government overall during a conflict and during the president of isis on terrorism in the country ok with mighty good comfort so thank you very much we thank both of time thank you. To to. Noice. A fairy tale castle. 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