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Taking out energy from russia paying billions of dollars is that what it is a piece of the of the destruction of north stream too is not only a question of Energy Security its a geo political issue. The question of how dependent we are in russian capital cannot be clarified by the question of which pipeline of slaves 3. So i say to you clearly it will strengthen russia and weaken europe. No one wants to become dependent will completely dependent on russia were supposed to be protecting you from russia and youre paying it is it dollars whats that all about. Also coming up tonight the final debate among members of the u. S. Congress before they vote to impeach their president 1st. The evidence show clearly that the president committed these acts 2nd they rise to the level of impeachable high crimes and misdemeanors. What are the consequences for National Security for the integrity of our elections and for our country if we fail to act. Once you our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with a fight over fossil fuels that is being sold as a question of allegiance and National Security in a rare show of solidarity the u. S. Congress and the u. S. President say that they have agreed they are against a major Energy Project here in europe the nord stream 2 pipeline is scheduled to go online in just weeks and will begin pumping natural gas from russia to germany a direct line through the baltic sea that bypasses ukraine and poland the u. S. Says d it is a Security Risk for europe and nato because it increases the continents dependence on russia trump has threatened to torpedo the deal with sanctions today the German Foreign minister told washington to basically butt out of European Energy policy supporters of nord stream they say that the u. S. Is using Foreign Policy to force europe to ditch russia and become a consumer of u. S. Liquefied natural gas. The u. S. Plans to impose sanctions on companies and individuals involved in the pipeline project that includes german as well as other European Companies the penalties include travel bans and asset freezes companies continuing with north stream 2 could find themselves cut off from doing business in the u. S. U. S. Lawmakers fear the pipeline could give moscow greater leverage over the german and e. U. Energy markets german politicians disagree we in europe think we can decide. For ourselves about our own security and diversity and i personally do not buy the argument by the United States saying we are making ourselves more dependent or maybe even completely dependent by russian oil and gas deliveries russias gas pramono majority stake in the 1200 kilometer long pipeline which will transport natural gas under the baltic sea from russia directly to germany circumventing ukraine and other Eastern European countries the project is more than 90 Percent Complete and is scheduled to start operating in mid 2020 north stream 2 has the potential to double the amount of natural gas germany imports from russia the country needs more gas to ensure Energy Supplies remain stable as it phases out the use of coal and nuclear power. And as germany goes green policy makers here suspect washington is also worried about the business angle of north stream too. He was operated the u. S. Produces liquid for charlie and gas using the fracking method the Carbon Footprint is worse than color and they have trouble selling it here on the European Market because they arent competitive that develops peace and whatever the u. S. Motives President Trump says he will sign the bill into law and implemented as soon as possible. And for more on that tonight im joined here at the big table by to my right by andrea snick hes a member of the German Parliament for the german chancellors conservative c. D. U. Party he is also a member of Parliament Foreign Affairs Committee and to his right and you were there a lawyer and political consultant based here in berlin and washington gentlemen to both of you welcome mr nif let me start with you today the German Foreign minister told the United States basically to mind its business on business and to stay out of european and german Energy Policy is that what you would say to the u. S. Congress or the u. S. President. I think this is a very unfortunate development i think the reactions that we have seen throughout in germany today across party lines are pretty unified its an issue of National Sovereignty its an issue of our general reservation about unilateral sanctions with 3rd party effect. And it is potentially a big liability for the transatlantic relations. Also she was quite a controversial project in germany but i think if theres one thing that this move will achieve that everyone in germany will unite behind this project if its made a factor of National Sovereignty as opposed to aggressive outside intervention it would do you think though that thats what were seeing here that the Trump White House has actually made a situation that wasnt that bad and its made it worse for the u. S. Because it is. Creating this is solidarity now i think that i think this project was controversial to a certain extent in germany before or it could have had many discussions a couple of years ago but now just before the completion of this bullshit it looked as a particular unfriendly act and the 2nd as big that i bored about that the fact that it is not just limited to the Trump White House that it is one of the few bipartisan scenes that. Congressmen from both sides seem to be able to rely on it underlines the impression that the challenges in the transit workers are not limited to mr trump but a much more universal how do you read this mr de i mean ive heard that the democrats are in favor of this because they think that thats a way to. Fire back if you will at putin because of what happened in the 2016 election thats a big part of it but i think one thing thats really important for your viewers here in germany to understand is that this is been american Foreign Policy since the project was announced and 2015 this was obamas policy as well. Joe biden is Vice President spoke out strongly against this project when it was just Getting Started getting off the ground secretary of state john kerry spoke out against this project said it would you know we can ukraine we can other American Allies in Eastern Europe so this is not as mr nic just said this is not a trump policy this is really american policy but you didnt see the threat of sanctions the with with obama for example and it does it looks very suspicious as you said mr take that right before this project is completed to just say were going to slap sanctions on you if you finish the timing is interesting i give you that its quite theyve created quite a cliffhanger here and then sort of race to the finish line and there is an element of the you know the 26 election i mean i think if you step back and look at the whole picture of russia related sanctions you know since the incursion into crimea 2014 there have been a raft of anti russia sanctions and. You have beginning the e. U. And the us really coordinated quite well in the sanctions and then since the 26 election weve seen it the United States really go on its own path 2017 congress enacted a huge wave of sanctions unilaterally without the e. U. And now i would say this north stream is really one step further which is not only acting without the e. U. But you know a in a way that really damages a partner which is germany mr take this this pipeline will mean that russia basically no longer has to pay these transit fees that it pays now to ukraine in poland by using land pipelines its like they have to do that anymore so youre going to be robbing these countries of a valuable source of income how does that fit with what the german chancellor has said time and time again when she said she stands with ukraine and ukraines sovereignty. If you look at how the the flow is of really of gas transmissions these days in Eastern Europe most of the movement has been is now has been changed from east to west west to east so most of ukraines gas supplies come from western europe and so we put more into the system or with this pipeline we are engaged in negotiations with russia and ukraine to make sure that these pipelines can be referred to in a way that the long term viable and can be used i think this is not a contradiction the other fact i think that we are really worried with regard to the motivation in the United States that it has the best taste that this is primarily u. S. Interests to push through their own energy sales to you up and i think just that which is well i wouldnt. Have had a judgment on that but its a it seems to be part of a look which senators a particular pushing this bill like ted cruz and others it has the bad smell of being driven by economic selfinterest which makes it less credible i think as a form. Policy tool at the beginning of the year the Us Ambassador Richard Grinnell he ruffled feathers by saying that north stream too should be killed and that the companies are European Countries should look elsewhere for their energy thats sales pitch for the us is and i think we have to literally decided i think that we should build an Energy Terminal and on the north sea a party as a hedge in this system partly as a element to have. Put price discipline on the supply of around the world and i think this is a. Decision in german self interest which will also help us. Through from other sources. Ive seen today as a reaction of yesterdays decision not from policy makers but from media representatives 1st calls that we should. Count us and put some condescension on the Energy Terminal for us that i think this is a better idea we should do that even though it best self interest to have this terminal but i think it and its empathize how serious this debate may become in this case as you see have you seen signs of lobbyists trying to generate support within the German Government in parliament for us liquefied natural gas. I think it is not that we are opposed to. Open line on this i can remember discussions which are not so long ago when the us was had even blocked. Exports so there has been quite a shift. And many people here may be suspicious that this change in u. S. Export policy may be more behind this than any policies that have to do with washoe ukraine what about you mr have you seen signs that theres more lobbying now going on here to change the minds of german lawmakers. Well i. You know more focus on d. C. Rather than berlin in terms of the lobbying picture but i can tell you that you know geopolitics is not some sort of pretext for selling more elegy i mean selling elegy is an explicit policy of the u. S. Government its in the 2017 anti russia bill that was passed overwhelmingly by virtually unanimous congress that selling l. N. G. Create american jobs and protection ukraine are both motives for this policy that he did legitimate but is it legitimate to use Foreign Policy. To force an ally to become a consumer of you or liquefied natural gas i guess the way if you if you you know mr nick mentioned ted cruz who is indeed the in sort of the the principal cheerleader of this policy in congress and does come from texas where theres a big energy lobby. I think if you you know ask someone like senator cruz they would say you know this is your get in both ways were were were achieving important u. S. Strategic geopolitical aim on one hand and at the same time helping support the u. S. Economy and jobs mr to the chancellor as we said she supports nord stream she also supports allowing or keeping the door open for the Chinese Company who a way to perhaps build germanys 5 g. Network. Do you stand with a chance or on that. Im not sure your question represents a position of the of the chance to accurately i think we have a strong consensus that we will have to be more resilient in terms of our fashion for me and the company that we are in the process of properly defining our security requirements in this context and this technology and i think this is the way we should do it defining bottom up where we see risks and how to mitigate them. What we were not willing to do is just as a matter of principle bending a company because its chinese in the 1st base but we may have imposed serious requirements on each and every supply of Critical Infrastructure technology which will then also apply to 2 supplies of that kind of thing there will be a broad european cooperation on that im pretty sure. So comparing these both things in this way does not seem an appropriate refuse collection of German Government policy well yesterday telefonica announced that way will be one of the 2 companies to build its 5 g. Network here in germany. Is that decision in your opinion is that a decision that should raise National Security concerns i think absolutely we should be more resilient in terms of what Critical Infrastructure. Requirements are for the for the future we should not be naive nephew isnt about that im not sure the last word is spoken on that and we may have to define potentially very different layers or different elements of systems. There who have a hand is in the German Market which are not banned yet but when you come to the physical Network Infrastructure you make it to a different conclusion. But i am not. Overly happy about the fact that this issue is seems to be used as a part of a campaign in germany which suggests that at the end we should divide the world into different spheres of interest and you either in the americans feel on the. I think that is not the way we as germans or europeans well look at the world and were looking at the world Going Forward and this is therefore not necessarily a helpful framing of this debate andrius nick member of the German Parliament the bundestag and andrew adair us lawyer and political consultant gentlemen to both of you thank you so i thank you. For 18 years the German Military has been present in afghanistan often helped by local civilian employees they served and Still Service translators and as guards but that work has made them targets of the telly but nearly 800 have come to germany with the help of a special program but even here they still dont feel safe we visited one of them in the german city of lights. Kinds is on his way to walk hes been employed at the Foreigners Registration Office in the city of lights for almost easy he helps refugees finds them places to live and arranges down in courses he himself arrived in germany 5 years ago as focus on course after work was a Great Success in my life i 1st had to learn the language i had to integrate i have to fulfill certain requirements for the job i now do. After. That home in afghanistan was a locally hiatt civilian for the chairman he was an entire protests the sixtys he accompanied german soldiers including going on Dangerous Missions in areas of conflict but there came a time when he felt his life was in danger and he had to flee. Miska from the if the taliban it had the opportunity they would have chopped my head right off the many other people religious people also dislike this. Use. They called us collaborators infidels and traitors. I heard such accusations all the time when i went to the mosque nobody wanted to be near me i know in my way as i. May be happy and now in germany but not everything has satisfactory he has to enjoy a round trip of more than 300 kilometers every day because his job is in the neighboring state but his immigration status from moving and because he his wife and their 2 children dont have permanent residence they have to keep. Thats. What happens when the years over what about my childrens future my family my future i cant go back to afghanistan we cant go back to afghanistans a lot of this i left everything behind to start a new life here to find safety. You have to call me but we have not truly found a new home sales were only tolerated. Kind of says happy to have found an apartment this spied his status as a temporary resident he pays the rent himself hes keen to make his own way in his new home country and. Im very grateful to germany i dont want anything as a gift i want to work hard i hope the interior ministry finds a respectful and humane solution for people like me afghans who worked for germany who are now here with our families. We cant go back to afghanistan because we wouldnt stand a chance there. Kinds did a lot for germany and afghanistan he even for instance life now the question is how much germany owes him and others in his situation so that they can build a new life in their new home. In washington members of congress are now in their final debate over whether or not to ask the house of representatives to vote yes or no to impeaching u. S. President donald trump the House Judiciary Committee is in a marathon today session once the committee has voted on the articles of impeachment they will then be sent to the full house of representatives as it looks tonight next week donald trump will become the 3rd u. S. President ever to be impeached in u. S. History heres a sample of what was said today a sample also of the deep division that accompanies this impeachment decision resolution and he sent Donald John Trump president of United States for high crimes and misdemeanors other president s have resisted congressional oversight the President Trumps stonewall was complete absolute and without precedent in American History taken together to articles charge President Trump with placing its private political interests above our National Security above our free and Fair Elections and above our billet to hold Public Officials accountable President Trumped us warrants impeachment and trial for removal from office and disqualification to hold enjoy any office of honor trust or profit under the United States the real legacy of this impeachment hearing will not be the removal of donald trump is present in fact if anything they see the majority for what they are. On a 3 year vendetta to get someone that they couldnt beat and theyre desperate to do before he beats him again next year. Is justice being served or is it being silenced that is what many are asking after reports that the disgraced u. S. Movie producer Harvey Weinstein has reached a 25000000. 00 settlement in the rape case against him more than 30 women who filed lawsuits accusing him of Sexual Misconduct well theyve reportedly agreed to the settlement if approved the agreement would in nearly all the civil cases against weinstein but he will still face a criminal trial on multiple charges including rape 2 years ago us media 1st published the allegations against weinstein one thing was actresses were among the women who 1st came forth. And for more now im joined by the reporter Anthony Howard so how does this settlement what does it mean for Harvey Weinstein and his accusers i mean from the outside looks good for weinstein incredibly the deal still yet to be saddam padis and yet to be approved by the court but if it goes through it looks to be as you say very good outcome for how he wants and maybe not on 1st reading here tens of millions of dollars a month sound that way a rate that well but the devil is military in the detail lets go through a couple the 25000000. 00 settlement set aside for mr one states accuses will be paid for by insurers to his now bankrupt company so its not coming out of his pocket at all not coming from his pocket the legal costs of defending himself will also mostly be met by that same pool of money set aside to settle all outstanding claims against that company for them all mr weinstein will not have to admit to any wrong doing amazing how he wants to its been making deals for decades brant and he has made another one he knows how to make a deal and ive been doing the math and the women who are agreeing to this is if its true when you divide the 25000000. 00 each person is only going to get 500000. 00 so its not a tremendous amount of money for anyone. But hes not off the hook completely you know he faces a criminal challenge generally on 5 charges including right the cases involve 2 female accuses a mr one state has pleaded not guilty mr once in a peed in court that which point the the judge doubled his bio to 2000000 euros also of note in this thing and now the man in which mr weinstein approached the cooler on a zimmer frame or a book on where youre going to if you want to call it he was moving slowly wearing an oversized jacket. Jacket each as to where not the other that all of his in a friend had been seen in his position before now his lawyer says it was because of injuries he suffered in a car accident over the summer thats why hes using it skeptics might think that this is the latest one stain production and maybe hes using it as a ruse to drum up public sympathy ahead of the trial so they say the judge in note noting this brant warned that if one thing had any further unsane medical conditions arise that the court and i quote would not be terribly understanding of those conditions maybe he hurt his leg by tampering with that device that hes wearing that keeps track of where hes going we understand he tampered with that i mean whatever happens here its not going to change the fact that Harvey Weinstein what he has been accused of what he has done a cultural water shed in the United States in the world for that matter doesnt belong to us and he became the antiheroes central figure in the meat to movement that changed or at least highlighted the toxic sit behavior is now the trial this is a truly significant moment for the women who started all of this who created that as you say for that Broader Community beyond beyond new york beyond america the me me too has become part of a global language since then its the behavior it speaks to as being dragged out into the spotlight a stand that has been said if nothing else becomes of it and thats what and say which way it all goes. How he wants to end is now getting his dying caught the women now have their day in court he will face trial in manhattan engine yet interesting to see what comes out of that criminal trial and howard as always thank you and thank you. Oh the day is almost gone the conversation continues online youll find us on twitter either d. W. News or you can follow me at brant goff t. V. Dont forget to use hash tag the big i remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day well see you then everybody. Into the conflict zone with 2 sebastian. My guest this week yuri wrote is the jesuit priest father hosts solo fours illegal exploits closer to abuse a mobile kludgy theres the boss a girl serious about wheelchair the whole way and continue to provide opportunity as cover priests who commit these awful close conflicts so for 90 minutes on w. Logo to the girl next new to. Most a good line of stewards. With exclusive insights. The must see concerning parts culture change or a. 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