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A joke. Impeachment that just sound more fact of the president s betrayal of his oath of office right now to a secure nation in the war with iraq could it stand im sure that if it were a cop. And kissimmee is. Coming into play the game is. Also coming up tonight despite syria demanding they leave us and turkish troops are carving out a safe zone in the north east of the country designed to be a door for Syrian Refugees to use if they want to go home but that is a big if. Turkey has taken in more refugees from syria than any other country more than 3600000 people in the space of a few years while took for science he initially responded with the mockable resilience. Hospitality is now rapidly wearing that. To our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with a cold hard fact about winning political power no one is exempt from the risk of losing their power and that is a lesson the populace appear to be learning the hard way following an example that was said in italy back in august voters in austria yesterday punished the countrys far right Freedom Party apparently for a Corruption Scandal involving the partys former leader its a pattern emerging here in europe and in the United States populist politicians who win at the ballot box are colliding with the institutions and rules of conduct that they trashed on their way to Campaign Victory breaking the rules as a candidate may have been the key to getting elected but breaking the rules in power well it remains the key to getting walked out more on that in just a moment but 1st we have this report from the fed. After the postelection parties its time for some tricky negotiations to begin sebastiaan curts is now you looking for Coalition Partners the greens may be a viable option for him there are we entering parliament after a surge in support and kids change the face of australian politics but would they want to be. A good place be the edge of the of course we greens are ready to talk but we can only come to the negotiating table if there is a shift when it comes to alki areas we now have the responsibility to put austria at the forefront in climate protection putting an influential. If the greens joined a governing coalition it would be a 1st just a National Level but with so many other parties also in the frame the voters have mixed feelings about the overall results. And its a close up tick honestly its great exactly what i was hope. Farai and im curious about coalitions and what the Coalition Talks will bring jones one of them playing in a little bit see well see with the greens really want to implement a green policy or with a just middling communists in galbraith and i dont think the tree house plants the environment is a power is he and in my opinion and im not the only person to think that politics has nothing much to say nowadays only the economy matters. Sebastian kurtz wants to create the challenges facing the economy front and center in Coalition Talks the negotiations are expected to last several weeks if not months. Well my 1st guest tonight cautions that populace may be losing elections now but their base of support is not necessarily shrinking in her book popular ocracy in the tyranny of authenticity and the rise of populism catherine vs he argues that getting rid of populism is most difficult in societies where not telling the truth is already the lingua franca of politicians evan is the director of Global Policy institute at Queen Mary University in london she joins me tonight from london catharine welcome to the day your piece today in the guardian it caught our attention because you write that outright lying is the winning currency of the populace how does that apply in the case of austria where its believed voters punished the far right party due to a Corruption Scandal. So i think whats interesting about austria is that it is a Corruption Scandal and its not exactly the same kind of lying is that weve seen elsewhere one of the interesting things about it is that the f. B. I. Which is a far right party more than a Populous Party lets face it. Actually you know lost power was ejected from the coalitions trying to have to resign because of new elections and i think that there are 2 tud went down very poorly im im wondering im asking myself whether in fact you know if they had gone down really fighting rather than kind of you know abandoning the stage if you like whether they went to been a little bit more credible but i also think that we have to be careful in terms of austria one is that the coalition with the greens is not a given and we may not for sure but we may be right back where we started with the f. B. I. Back into coalition and the 2nd thing you know about austria is that actually the real populists are actually the conservative party so you know who needs the f. P. O. When youve got the ovi you know doing the job well i mean its interesting i want to stay with this this idea of warning and how we can get you a long way in politics is there a wall of diminishing returns or there are democracies where there can be too much law. Yes i think that you know the lying obviously occurs in context and i think you know for example italy is a is a very good example the fact is that you know theres a long tradition of populism in italy and actually you know been luscombe lie as much as the need is has lied and is lying its a context in which in fact lying is the currency so the thing about that is that you know you have to tell bigger and bigger lies in order to attract attention thats why populists lie right its because they do it in order to be seen to be lying theyre not covering things up really what theyre actually doing is saying you know look at look at the lengths were willing to go to in order to really speak the mind of the speak the mind of the people in the case of italy its its particularly interesting because its not that voters turned against the right. Overreach he gambled he lost right now hes in opposition in fact his Popular Support hasnt been dented so you know if there were to be another election in italy so he could very well be at 3538 percent he hasnt he hasnt lost out very much because its a context in fact where you know lying has currency but i think that there are other places and hopefully britain you know is one of them are actually lying will take you so far and you know you might like a bit of bombast but at one point theres actually a reaction from the institutions right larry a reaction from podium let me ask you about that Boris Johnson the Prime Minister and the u. S. President. America and the poster boys if you will of populism. Are they on a shorter leash when it comes to the untruths that they can tell when and get away with. I think theyre on the shorter leash once theyre in power i think this is this is absolutely right because the institutions do still have you know some leeway they do still have some credibility if you know if not with all voters certainly with a substantial amount of the voters so that actually would get into power in a place like the United States or a place like like the u. K. What attracts the disaffected voters the voters who want to you know who really want to stick it to the system if you like those are actually things that are much more difficult to wield once youre in power Donald Trumps had a pretty good run of it somebody like born johnson really hasnt you know done very well from it and actually the institutions of turned against him you know quite rapidly well how do you explain double trump though i mean theres the theres the impeachment proceedings which which have begun is we were talking about that today in the news room and the fact that this is for many people represents the checks and balances that are working in the american democracy but at the same time donald trump has told new celt was countless untruths or lives to to become president and president so what are we looking at here are we looking at a system that is balancing and calibrating itself or are we looking at a sick democracy. Well i think you know i think democracies are fragile theyre always a little bit sick right and thats thats their form thats ok but i think what were seeing is you know its certainly you know the opposition and also institutions you know learning to deal with this kind of with this kind of leader actually sort of in a sense it its almost as if they were sort of coming to their senses and thinking oh actually we can assert ourselves you know we can assert the primacy of the law and that certainly whats been done in the us and whats being done in the u. K. I think we have to be very careful i mean i like to be a bit like to be an optimist and see a kind of a reaction and limits put upon these these this kind of populist leadership and were seeing some of that in europe as well at the level of european institutions where these institutions are starting to find a way to deal with with this populism but i am not entirely sure that this means that you know i think that this can contain it i think that we can in a sense of liberals or pluralist learn to roll with the punches but its also true that what these institutions are doing will also in a sense galvanize the base for some of these leaders and you know were seeing it here in in the u. K. That you know what is being done the Supreme Court ruling last week you know are being interpreted by a lot of the you know of the a lot of the hard core base as the trail collusion you know the language is extremely violent you know theres a sense in which the populous of Popular Support in popular base you know are really being sidelined i think we have let me just pick up on that the violence you know wine is one thing but appealing to inciting violence is another. Johnson and theyve both been accused of doing that i mean are we looking at a system where the bullies who when theyre pushed to the wall use their fists are they the ones who are going to win. And i think that what they do and they dont exactly used these expressions in these tools in the same way i think what theyre doing is essentially signaling to the base i think when such leaders are have their backs against the wall theres no necessary theres not necessarily one single recipe what Boris Johnson is doing is stoking the politics of outrage and he knows that by doing that and hes were probably not very far from an election here as well hes creating more polarizing and hes using extremely divisive language and this is a way to actually solidify his base i dont think that it is necessarily you know billed as an incitement to hatred i think some of what donald trump has done certainly you know in terms of you know the racism and you know the calls for people to go home or the lock her up and all of that that is actually much more i think of a call to violence its almost all to arms catherine fascinating discussion with you katherine please come back to the day lets lets talk kathryn author of the book popular as youre the tyranny of authenticity and the rise of populism catherine thank you very much. Thank you. Turkish president richard pipetta one wants a new safe zone in northeastern syria and there is one big reason why he wants a place to repatriate Syrian Refugees are one wanted to establish that zone by today the last day of september but his government and the u. S. They seem to have different ideas about how big the zone should be everyone says hell act alone if theres no agreement the Syrian Refugees in turkey say some are already being deported back home to areas including the north which according to them are far from say our correspondent youll yohan met a woman who says that her son was sent back against his will. Mohammed has been gone for almost 2 months when offered a show thinks about what happened to her son she feels helpless lost. In early August Mohammed was writing a friends motorbike in istanbul the bike was and registered mohammed was stopped by police and then sent to a detention center. They were lost i dont know i wasnt normal about 12 days later i got a call from mohammed afore he said theyve taken me to syria to live that was his last phone call i havent heard from him since i didnt let him im not a mom have lamhaa not broken when me fled from syria he was still a small child. Now they have sent him back to that place could not and i dont know where he is still. Istanbuls fattish district is an area where many syrians live many here of heard that the turkish authorities have been deporting refugees in recent months and most of them are afraid that they could be next. When they started sending people back i was so scared i didnt leave my house with. The army they already have and there are more restrictions on us now people are being deported back to syria we cant escape turkey for europe anymore because its too dangerous a new. Group started to sob yeah i will go and then was and we syrians used to feel welcome here in rio will then its changed a little bit alarming about how we feel like unwanted migrants again. In turkey has taken in more refugees from syria than any other country more than 3600000 people in the space of a few years hundreds of thousands live here in istanbul theyve set up stores of breast strongs theyve tried to build new life while Turkish Society initially responded with more marketable resilience hospitality is now rapidly wearing thin. Took both iran if more of them come i dont want to live in this neighborhood and in this country anymore. Its me. But i get along very well with most of the syrians here there are some bad people but you get that everywhere you know and i guess we want them to leave as soon as possible we dont want them here any more because the children turkish president of tired out one has recognized this change in public sentiment in the past few weeks he has made repeated promises that millions of syrians will return home to a socalled safe zone that he wants to establish in the north east of syria. But the government insists the deportations are not taking place and that syrians who are returning are doing so voluntarily. That matter Chester Gillis disagrees the lawyer is trying to help get also racial son back from syria mohammad and his family have valid turkish documents and protection status checkers has filed an appeal with turkeys constitutional court. Sending a person to a war zone as a serious human rights violation of the mohammed is not an isolated case we feel for this is happening to many syrians many have been deported in recent months some of the shit out of the along the gulf the lawyer says that many deported syrians attempt to return to turkey making a 2nd escape from their war torn country illegally and often at a high cost paying a lot of money to smugness and as dangerous as that might sound. I promise mother ofa is clinging to any hope that she might see her son again in safety. Hopes weigand is in court here in germany to face charges related to the diesel gate to missions scandal the Class Action Lawsuit the 1st of its kind in germany is being brought by more than 400000 drivers who were seeking compensation for purchasing vehicles with devices that allow the car maker to cheat on Environmental Emissions test. The scandal has already cost books y. And over 30000000000. 00 worldwide. Im joined now here at the big table by my colleagues and now to molly young she is from our business distance talk about this Class Action Lawsuit developing how much are we talking about well this is a very big deal also be given its historic nature like you said there this is the 1st Class Action Lawsuit that germany has ever seen that had to be preceded by a change in the law to even happen but how much of flights will end up paying and as if the court finds against blacks song thats less clear at the beginning of what happens to be what promises to be a very long process and on the 1st day the judge was quick to dampen hopes of us style damages being awarded indeed the now those a 30000000000. 00 euros that has already spent on diesel get related damages that has ended up going mostly towards affected u. S. Consumers and theres there doesnt seem to be a big indication that that will be replicated here and germany and there are several issues at play here now the fighting judge has said that you cant really pin down fox vying for breach of contract because the contracts of sale happened between dealerships and the individual buyers some of these cars were secondhand so where would you go about now in order to claim damages buyers that would have to prove what they lost and the courts then have to decide how much reduced resale value matters how much it matters that there are diesel driving bonds you know theres a lot of extra math in all of that thats for sure but isnt there an irony here i mean votes like yours in the diesel gate scandal right now is going to have to pay up at the same time its leading the world into what you corps is going to have what the 1st card to come out for the masses in europe in 2020 next year the id free indeed and it has been part of the strategy to rehabilitate themselves and there is some irony in this because a lot of that money that they were able to that they were able to earn all these years and its been a lot of money its been that connected to you know taught to become the number one the number one car maker in the world so its been a position to make these mega investments intellectual ability 20000000000 euros by 2030 and thats on top of the damages its had to pay for diesel again an investor will have to see if that investment pings off you know as always thank you. 30 years ago thousands of east germans fleeing communism made their way to prague heading for the west German Embassy there know they intended to use that embassy as a jump off point if you will to cross into the west and that gamble it paid all well 30 years later some of them have been retracing their steps to freedom. Just. A journey back in time. To go. Travelling in a train just like this one. Like reliving it all over again. Back then sunder was one of thousands of refugees fleeing east germany they travelled in special trains from prague to the west but to get there they had to pass through east german territory where they feared to be arrested. In order to keep memories of those journeys alive some of the people who made those trips then doing it again. They all left east germany that way. After several tense weeks in the west German Embassy in prague. If you will in september 1989 east germans were poor and into the embassy the building was quickly overwhelmed. Many ended up camping out in the Embassy Grounds it was cold. Sanda spent 3 weeks here with his wife and 2 children new arrivals came in over the fence every day. For them. It never stopped raining at the cooktown border so he didnt have to walk through the mud the. Tents wherever they could find a space where even much was the tents were all crowded up against one another. Their strength and. Then the fateful moment on the 30th of september west German Foreign minister Hans Dietrich genscher arrived speaking to the refugees from the balcony his announcement that they could leave was drowned out by cheers. Oh. Oh. I cant ship promise that everyone in the embassy would be allowed to go to the west sanger was that and hurt him. While you were standing right here. At. This. But. Its all coming about is little. That same night santa and his family left the embassy and boarded the train to west germany. He thought the doors or it was a very emotional journey of a shifty very difficult ordeal they say it would show for us. It was a train to freedom. Just a few weeks later the citizens of east germany gained their freedom crow november 9th 1989 when will came down the clock and we remember it well well the day is always done the conversation continues online go find us on twitter in the wreckage of the news you can follow me and. T. V. Every member whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day well see you then at the bus. Kickoff. Clubs gave away their home advantage. Ending victory to the most of the. Last weekend away team. The. Child cannot see off the top of the table at the olympics into the relegation zone. Valentines day 2018 parkland florida and usa. That i love tar and now the last time that i would see ls a lot of. 17 people died in the high school shooting. For once it was just enough was enough for the protest movement is born. Young americans against gun mania in 45 minutes. Link time news from africa to the world join us on facebook d w africa. That. My mil and im going to list all the brand new w. 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