Welcome to the program for more than 28 years the berlin wall formed the dividing line between freedom and authoritarianism and i dont you can border between democracy and communism but it fell eventually and it fell to people whod had enough the 989 people had been protesting for months in cities across the east germany demanding the right to travel and the right to elect a democratic government protests which understood communist government like nothing before finally on the 9th of november when crowds began to assemble at the berlin wall the Border Guards had no choice but to allow them to cross into west berlin the wall had fallen. The ideological struggle in berlin from that time is mirrored in protests 9000 miles away in hong kong its residents demanding greater democracy and Voting Rights in a moment well speak to a well known figurehead of these protests joshua walking but his mall on hong kongs fortressed Movement Since its handover to china in 1970. 1997 the beginning of a new era in hong kong the british colony was returned to china under the principle of one country 2 systems it guaranteed hong kong its own economic legal and political systems for 50 years the tensions underlying that principle have soaked all the major protests in the territory ever since china pushing for one country hong kong protesters pushing to protect their autonomy in 2003 on the anniversary of the handover half a 1000000 people turned out to demonstrate against article 23. 00 and National Security reform opponents fear the law would threaten freedom of speech and assembly freedoms nonexistent in Mainland China the bill ended up being shelved. More than a decade later occupy central also known as the Umbrella Movement propelled a new generation of prodemocracy activists to International Prominence day included then 17 year old joshua wang was later among the leaders convicted and jailed the activists at the heart of the protest had already been mobilizing for several years spurred on by a crackdown on mainland dissidents and concerns about beijings encroachments into the territory. A sit in to demand free elections lasted 79 days. It was the most serious challenge to beijings of thoresby in hong kong. Until the protests that erupted in june this year sparked by a proposed extradition bill to allow of suspects to be transferred to Mainland China activists said built on the Lessons Learned during the Umbrella Movement. Theyve proved highly organized using guerrilla style tactics as well as mass marches and says in. The message they wont give a punk songs autonomy with a fife. Thank you. And prodemocracy activist joshua wong is with me in the studio joshua welcome and welcome to berlin in fact at an event last evening here in the city you said and i quote if we are in a new cold war hong kong is the new berlin on court what do you mean by that under the hot line rule and suppression in hong kong experience problems for totty and how beijing transformed my hometown to be a police state and with our course on free election we hope to lead people to understand that with the pressure of beijing and how the free you wrote support hong kong is the new burden under the new cold war in what way other similar especially when we put into the context of the trade negotiation of the or the chaos of the trade will between us and China Hong Kong is on the front line and the frontier to confront rule of beijing and expansion of shop power from china and i experienced and surf the similarity for whats happening in burn in and last century if you compare the 2 as youre drawing parallels the protests in berlin and in other parts of germany were norvin you know violent as violent as they are in hong kong where protesters ever centrally set on the police stations of the loose offices why are the protests or violent clash of exist or not it depends more on police instead of the sight of protester 3 weeks ago on the 18th of august with 1700000 citizen join a peaceful but an assembly and rally without any clash and phylis because police didnt stop me there one time in a long time yeah so if clash of this happened is strongly related to the life threatening weapon despite a riot police and i hope people realize that no one would enjoy to see clash and fall as happen but the outcome may go at all question is where is precedence she and caroline is that off stay behind of riot police to allow clash happen every week and i just hope that a way to. Political crisis must solved by political system reform come to the political system reform or just talk a bit about the violence if youre saying the protesters did nothing wrong why did they apologize after the clashes of the during the 2nd how we can learn a lesson from every clash and and to seek for International Community support is absolutely important and significant i can say that in the past 3 months i myself on 100 percent of the behaviors of every protester especially more than 2000000. 00 joined a protest how can we expect that we 100 percent of all the behave but is that of claiming or because we know that how government must be constable and responsible to the political crisis and our ultimate goal is not on separate is ideology we are asking for the fundamental right we hope to whats in the election to our government do you want. We hope hong kong and under autonomy and freedom and we are not the one on separate is ideology so you do believe hong kong is a part of china and one country 2 systems should continue one country 2 system already eroded to be one country one and a half days dont totally collapse polity and transform that to be a police state we at me and away hong kong under rule of beijing thats why we are where i want them on sending the message to beijing government presidency you should hong kong people to have free elections thats the promise made in the International Treaty british john decoration thats fine talk about how the situation can be diffused or you have to for executive offered an olive branch a couple of days back and you said lets engage in dialogue and something that you is reputed to do as well why do you will not engage in dialogue on the one hand carolan hold a press conference to say that she welcomed dialogue on the she didnt reply. From prodemocratic am lawmaker prodemocratic little did. Long time but so since we sent the letter to carolyn and asked for a dialogue on friends of the united none of the Government Official really reply on that latter and i have concrete information to us and what we aware is caroline is not that this is your maker and what we hope is apart from withdrawing the bill before i born in 1963 decades ago hong kong people are already demanding free election so what is the response of china and Hong Kong Government on i will cause on free action im just curious you mentioned this thing about the open letter you wrote an open letter you call to the letter to john. Jones an angle a month before she travelled yes china last week the German Government did not meet you the nobody responded to that open letter yet here you are in germany and you met michael moss a foreign minister im not surprised for them would not directly reply on the latter but is a good move for all how the chancellor and germany government Pay Attention to whats going on in hong kong especially emphasized the importance not to use fountains or not to use force to solve the political crisis i know people might have different ideas or insights or perspective on the behavior of the protesters side the more important thing is if beijing decided to light a martial law in hong kong which means that emergency ordinance to shut down the internet or public transport all essential to hong kong to allow what happened in a tenement square 3 decades ago happen in hong kong again thats not the way out and is not threatening only hong kong but also Global Economy when we recognize hong kong as the Global Financial center joshua wont what should happen next what do you want to do you have a mixed we will continue our protests with our course on free in action and calling them on prolific brutality until 1st of october that Chinas National Day what we are asking for is just a promise made by beijing in the International Treaty we need to elect our own government and now its time for president xi to have fashion is still the way out to conduct hotline policy to hong kong is that these are freedom and democracy really are there for the time being just a want thank you for coming in thank you. The protests are not going have brought all kinds of fungus onto the streets pensioners and young people sometimes find themselves Standing Shoulder to shoulder about again both joining together to take a stand for their city fearful of a future shaped by authorities in beijing. Protesters call it fuk each with a construction helmet gas mask and a pair of goggles ryan hits to street again and melts into the sea of black. Among hunk im precious to his hes known as a young mole a wonder the braves the 19 year old lies to his parents every time he goes out to protest this time he told them his off to play football instead he set a barricade confronting the police. So of course it would be perfect if we didnt need to fight it or be most ideal to make the government concede with just peaceful rational and nonviolent actions but the Hong Kong Government has made us understand that being moderate and peaceful is useless. As the sky turns dog the tension bros on the front lines on the protesters of those who most often get injured by Bright Police disperse the crowds. But theyre not without their defenders this one from a whole different generation grandpa was. The 85 year old is using his body as a shield me margaret oh my god i dont beat up the children. Let them go home no no im not going out. Weve all made the. Bed and he has someone there to lean on i 73 year old grandpa chen oh my god king tut when the Police Charge in the youngsters all citizens confiscate fast enough we have to stand between them and block the polices advance to give citizens time to get away ha ha ha i dont go hungry but theres terms like yours often fall on deaf ears. Tonight brian got shot in just by my brother bullets but he says he wont retreat. Brian is done for tonight. But a struggle hes joined for the future a phone call appears far from over. 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