Taiwanese continue to reject it what on earth is party got to offer. She way welcomes calls it is our thank you very much for inviting me. You said the only way to resolve the antagonism between china and to i one is to talk and to love you have to know your lover china that is threatening taiwan both verbal and militarily and holding a sword over your head continually how do you love what world thats your impression actually if you talk to some chinese in Mainland China as long as you dont support separation from china they are not treat you like that they are not attack you so then say the wrong thing otherwise youre right right and you know youre on realize that you think thats a normal way to live the power across 180 kilometers of the strait says to you if you say the wrong thing you finished why dont you think i dont think its that serious you have the authority to keep saying i think you have to talk to each other if we try to visit china so call the china we call the mainland ok we are taiwan our mainland we together is a china is a one china war if you think the threats from china is so serious as one why do you european people all the people around the world all the members are in the e. U. And try to work with china try to have dialogue with china try to solve problems its true that you know that as well as i do its not a human rights record is there working history we can do that too apart from trade what exactly it is democratic time i was having common these days with one Party Communist china you have free elections yes you will change your party in power they dont you have independent courts they dont you have a free press they dont you can speak out against abuses of power and they cant what on earth have you got in common with Mainland China. I think we should emphasize differences. Go there work with them be their friends be their brothers and change instead of being their enemies go there walk with them you can change them like what do you were doing with them now were going to do a country about human rights what im not doing in china is that you can change them what on earth is the evidence war you see the trade Surplus China with malin rights you see a lot of changes in hong kong recently why china is not using force to press down the demonstration why they compromise why because they seek opportunity to prove they can change they came pruitt will come on to hong kong a little later i want to go into some detail on that but the serious issue is the military pressure from china is not even 2 years ago your Governments National defense report highlighted concerns that Chinese Military activity near taiwan posed an enormous threat to security in the taiwan straits now just a few days ago you had washington saying that china stepped up its pressure seeing the largest increase in military activity around taiwan for 20 years as you and you think thats meaningless why us say china is going to interfere in a lecture in taiwan so us is coming here to interfere in taiwan is it a lecture you happy with these bullying turnouts because they know what they are im not happy about bullying thing but i love what i was doing im happy about you know we can do business with each other we cant ask of china to make changes we are the only people on earth believe that we can make that happen we can make china a peaceful country where you look back at the history who are the invaders who are the invaders japan right who participated the wars in asia. If you want to live in history you want to live in the now i want you to live in the 1st in modern humans are special people i want you i want to make history clear who are the invaders ok if you want to be someones enemy then they will be your enemy if you want to be someones friend always following your ideas because you have friends if only like ok let me tell you one wild thing why us is selling our 16 to taiwan instead of 35 and the us is selling f. 35 to korea to japan to singapore to other countries why the United States gave the early island to japan instead of taiwan it was our territory why the us is doing that to taiwan this show can teach and Vice President of the Taiwan Foundation for democracy said last month that move more taiwanese feel their nation is now on the existential threat and you seem to be out of touch with that feeling totally you dont feel im very fluid the reality i feel the reality i know how to deal with the chinese in mainland. I know whats the facts i know you have you have to give you a clue from you how long have to deal with them as a politician i tried to deal with them when i was the mayor here at the debates that city mayor i work with the city in 19 i try to communicate with them i try to work with them try to ameliorate carbon emission Environmental Issues education issues will work with them provided adequate magic from where they continue to squeeze you where they ramp up the pressure where they try to persuade countries to drop their recognition diplomatic recognition that you did that you not curious that china didnt remember this you lost in the lead in 28 teams from the right to chinese russia you know about the intersection using an engine fake you you recognize china you dont recognize the the republic of china you will recognize me because im going to talk about republicans and we were talking about china is taiwan we were their representative of china before 971 and the u. N. I talk. About in history and this is going to be artistic you know im telling the fact we exist here that the are we seeing this is here and thats what you called the taiwan but you never knew i couldnt that is the our see here you recognize the p. R. C. Right what in the e. U. When i read an article recently we hear 21 china policy as regards to taiwan and hong kong and i just i think you should be defined like this we are here to one china policy as regards to mainland taiwan hong kong and mark up mr. Youre not talking about china that continues to thwart the worlds participation International Organizations like the World Health Organization and interpol for instance you want to be members of those organised want to china and i dont know if you want to help us is trying to stop it why you agreed. To those you know being asked why do you never criticize your maybe i just as i must Pay Attention everybody i think when you say dr drew i know you know even trying to read a lot i didnt say that weve read a lot of i have the time of science to express my opinion about chinas notorious cartoon is take up this is wrong this is what tell you i have here one more thing the un the e. U. Even germany you recognize the p. R. C. You dont recognize the scene and i truly hope one day you recognize the our scene you know how to participate doubly h. O. Ok i and you see the chinese not on the block about we have a lot of investigation to try to talk you are talking as the work that you try smells results i didn t. If you see such Great Results you see that can keep it that cant you try to talk to Mainland China time they try to sound outright yet they try to do let us but is a magic show especially today h. O. And i see a or mr cho beijing is clearly losing patience with taiwan and while you dream of some vague love in between taipei and the Mainland China is Crystal Clear what it wants from you and thats reunification and it refuses to rule out the use of force to get it doesnt it and you live with that and you normalize that on a daily basis ok in our consciousness same to the not you cant convince you you couldnt possible see constitution ok there is only one china policy. And that includes mainland taiwan hong kong and michael thats in our constitution we should buy and buy our countrys Constitutional Rights youre being told by xi jinping as you were in january unification is an inevitable requirement for the great rejuvenation of the Chinese People he said taiwan should accept that it must and will be reunited with china whatever talks youve been having with china hasnt got them out of the vattel idea and how many people in taiwan want that the unification of under 3 percent there or about that im going to worry about what the rand paul thing about you dont know youve already got people up i think but dont worry about their threatening words why dont you stand up to those threatening words what we stand up to you whether we stand up to that but you know i have a cigarette remember iran must and world and i did with john have you not so much of me have you tried to take a lot of our constitution so have you tried to take a look of loss to show you are not what china is not saying our laws and in our constitution we want to peaceful relationship we want to unification. The people of the people dont thats in our law and the constitution doesnt matter what i got you i dont want them to try to amend the constitution thats your perception our people here want to have a peaceful relationship with the mainland and we want to make money we want to do business together we want to have a democracy in the future in Mainland China but not fighting against them not taking down s. And anime trying to be their friends and try to change them by participation past what you do and where do you go thats working so well as to the reality is mr joe the beijings push on unification puts your party the kuomintang into a very difficult position doesnt it your veteran china expert suchi actually said that he said she jinping took away all the space for ambiguity and that puts us the kuomintang in a very difficult situation that difficulty being that your party is being told get on with this by china and you dont have a policy of standing up to it do you do have a policy. I declared that i claim that i want to unify china i want to unify under taiwan the last young chance for your 3000000 people what i was against the courage of this made that in my heart to see either 300 percent or 6 months or so you have to remember the whole story not happen. In the world you have to understand the history in the world whats happening now unification separation yes yes thats the process unification separation separation unification. Thats a track of the history but theres one thing very important i also learned wrongs never mind the track of westerly track because your story is just words theres a track of you know you just know its the fact the question is what people want to know human nature is that the vast majority of your population do me a favor wants unification do me a favor and have you ever stood up to china by stand out if you have a sense of them i stand up for the republic of china have you ever said no to beijing yes for many times whats wrong with human rights issues yes really yes because when you know the facts it was. Actually accident happened so it was fertile he told them i had 2 years whenever i went to china i told dont you need to introduce democracy to your society or theyre listening yes really loses money so once you the 1st of them was crackdown in 25 years taking place on human rights activists Human Rights Watch reported last year human rights defenders continue to enjoy arbitrary detention imprisonment and in force disappear yes and you say nothing about that. Have you heard i said anything about that i get just now i even told them i even told them because you dont know my history the old in with them i have the many dialogues with them i told them you have to improve thats human rights thats International Standards of treating your people i told them to ok i have to tell you one thing if you dont participate if you dont join them if you dont treat them like they can improve then nothing good is going to happen and what im blind here its a fine line between that the Peace Movement isnt a yes its a very flexible fine line its very ambiguous but you have to do that from your heart. People know that its never spoken up for the tiny taiwanese democracy activists leaving che its more than living chaits more than 2 years since he was forcibly disappeared you havent heard of him believe me chair its more than 2 years since he was forcibly disappeared by police in chinas grown province and charges subversion of state power hes a citizen of taiwan you dont talk about you dont even know hes now you know hes in terrible conditions human Rights Groups around the world have been campaigning for his release you know one of our governor sentenced to 5 years in jail cant get phone calls cant get letters 4 times his wife was prevented from from going to china to visit. And you know his rights are being around 20 years ago i tried to talk to chinese commoners to release and as p. R. Nosh suspects a lady who just got married and was released recently i talked to our government. Went down was the ruling party and they didnt step in they didnt try to rescue her she was sentenced to death however in jail for 20 years and just a year ago she was released probably just at the in this year she was released and look what the people here have done to help human rights you know we should try to Work Together and we should try to talk to them and what the government here do lets talk about hong kong again you mentioned earlier the view interview and you were you were praising china that they had shown restraint with the demonstration not praising them for that who started this in the 1st place ok thats the law right. For what the demonstrators will tell you that it was a constant erosion of their freedoms under the one country 2 systems for forced them onto the streets anywhere the denial of universal suffrage the kidnapping of booksellers the banning of a political party. The prevention of elected Legislative Council is taking their seats because they didnt like their politics that constant erosion of freedom under the one country 2 systems thats the system that she is offering you one country to nudge them i suggest you take a look whats been happening here in taiwan in the arrow see the ruling party d. P. P. Who claimed they protect human rights there is a minority you know i have to tell when it embarrasses anything happening here thats the reason why its so embarrassing because our ruling party is trying to marshal law here doing something even worse and there is one lawyer related to National Security you know thats what they are doing here our ruling party here. Of course we criticise the Hong Kong Government especially the council tried to establish a law which your hong kong residents disagree and it doesnt trust sold that little you believe is heritage or that the chief executive you carry lambert to fix shes beijings appointee history should be appointee even socalled elected by some hong kong representation. Why hasnt she was more ask hong kong people. Thats come from people is there democracy is serious system as can compete let me come back to the question and this is the one thing is important they withdraw the last draft right theyve suspended it they said it was not they still there said they have said its dead and said they would drop because they did something wrong in the minute i think theres something proceeding with it but not now thats thats whats happening before now they say their words. Youre satisfied its over now im not satisfied about that im worried about whats happening here in taiwan and the one country 2 systems formula that she jinping has offered to taiwan we do ads read the that or thats not going to happen thats not going to happen then you mean hong kong its not going to have a different systems from china system isnt the last thing i think the system what should exist because thats the be window shop for chinese they should to show that improvement of democracy to the world how consistent is a show isnt if they try to violate that its going to embarrass them just to show isnt a lesson that you should take away from hong kong is that china doesnt live up to its promises of democracy isnt that the lesson i think and i think talking and one thing i love china i dont live up to the note on this i do think we should try to change then we should try to improve them you should 1st say no to them what how do you know i didnt say no to them. Doing that ive been doing that for so many years every time i visited china i talked to them. I think improve your system especially a democratic system and they step up their interference with world. Look at the propaganda war thats being waged against taiwan a study by the university of gothenburg in sweden said youre one of chinas major targets for spreading disinformation happy about direct interference well i think. We all see socalled taiwan should be more more opened to outside world especially with western society youre avoiding we question are doing is this information came here what china is trying to do that but other countries also try to do that too i think we should take active actions in solving their problems well theyre open society but not open enough to the outside world or people of how many English Speaking channels here so take a look about how many how much International Media are existing here in taiwan were not exposed enough to the outside world however the politicians here tried to close the door china trying to close you know we are one we. Know should we or you know we we emphasize local law is ations so much instead of internationalization thats what you dont want to see more going on here who do you know when you really miss ourself 1st you dont want to admit it now we want to improve ourselves too we also want to improve china remember i want to take active active process active approach to china to make china change this idea that you can make sure the chileans which frankly is pretty much of a long shot why should people vote for you a purty. Well if youre selling fantasies like this one no were not selling fantasy. Be realistic its a difficult competition. Why dont you try to realize what p. P. P. Can do p. V. P. Is the one who came to the really election why dont you take a look what were fighting for while fighting for true democracy here and keep the ruling democracy while trying to build a peaceful relationship with china with the mainland and were trying to create a Better Society here while trying to introduce your systems your values here to taiwan were trying so hard to do that if we want to come dance of people here that we can keep this country perfectly well then we have to respect the democracy we have to open our society to the outside world we have to be honest to our people the bad by our ruling party is cheating our people well the bad news for you is that a plurality of taiwanese 45 percent dont identify with your party or the ruling d. P. P. Delivered youre going to take a look at youre right youre right they dont trust the parties here yeah i dont trust you and they dont trust that they dont trust our party youre not saying anything that they think is relevant what i believe theyre what theyre saying is relevance we realise the fact already people dont trust the parties here people dont trust the politicians here which is right with them i trust you i mean you you said in the 2nd probably debate criticise a primary you claim that the number of times when these people below the poverty line was believed to be around 3200000. Which is suppressed simply not true which is simply not true its true and the research i know essentially says taiwan proportionally contains fewer People Living in poverty than any other country in asia now now mostly almost no time no i mean some of them are less than 2 years on those under arrest and to me patience leigh you know when i was the meare in time we counted. They are around one quarter of the students can afford their lunch thats one quarter if you times that proportion to the total population here in taiwan and tell me in fact and im right. Im telling you the fact thats not the facts thats the fact i am telling you the fact why dont you listen almost no time when he does live on less than 1. 00 us dollars a day thats noble prodigy lad that is that really you have a poverty thats growing all over the nation of poverty is different really might have been a relative argument enough not to you right yes relative to every minute yeah thats my definition and ubiquitous is my donation you live in so i can tell you if any student cannot afford their lunch then he and his family is living in poverty thats my definition if it all goes wrong here in taiwan and she jinping loses patience and somebody says something they shouldnt say. And china looks as though its moving towards an invasion would you fight for taiwan. Or not lead to your ultimate loyalties lie mr cho loyal to our country the republic of china well loyal to our constitution you would you fight your show you yes yes yes if they violated our constitution to preserve and protect our people and defend our people ill fight against china so she way youre going to have your own comfort zone thank you. As the x x x o x x. X x x. P. His style was a mistake of. His pictures. Peter linz bad one of the worlds most famous fashion photographer. Nobody could portray women quite spiky and. In memory of peter names battles of the. D. W. Independent. To be that way how do it in space is legs and clusters is employed Digital Technology in a shift in time and its. Own business lunch see the good place of the future office 4. 0. Made in germany 90 minutes on d w. People are all done for w on facebook and twitter us up to date and in touch. You know that 77 percent. Are younger than 6 ah. Thats me and you. Know what time off voice is what. 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