2 years always denied the charges but with question marks going back many years do those denials ring true. Welcome to conflicts our thank you for inviting me last march qatar put 28 people and ditties on the terrorism list which included several qatari nationals some of these people had already been on the arab list before why did your government delay putting them well this is not entirely accurate the idea of having designated this war was new altogether and as a matter of fact the other piece who were on the list 4 of them to be very precise and specific were already under watch because they were under the Security Council designated list and all of the measures had been applied on them actually here is prior to that of meeting them but when the arab states put them on the list you said the charges were baseless no thats not accurate lets put things into context june 5th 2017 for walking countries for our countries decided to block it called now we understand that were starting to talk specifically about variability 8 people and shes so to put things into context again. When they did that when they broke into the country when they expelled our people from their own countries. Prevented them from access to mecca and then i understand i dont want to go through the whole history of them so when they did what they did that is they wanted to have an excuse so they have put forward many accusations at all terrorism excess or we said that those accusations were baseless and this was our position when april last year washingtons Near East Institute gave evidence to a house subcommittee on terrorism said doha had been less than forthcoming on the issue of prosecuting terrorism finances in qatari courts you know of the issue is youre courting a think tank in the us but youre not courting the state department which said that the memorandum of understanding signed between utter and the u. S. Puts it ahead of its neighbors including saudi and United Arab Emirates well for a long period of time the state department has had quite a few reservations about lets go through the history in 2009 a classified cable from the Us State Department to its missions in the gulf pointed to your disinterest in the subject qatar has adopted a largely passive approach to cooperating with the us against terrorist financing it said in february 2007 to 2 years earlier former us treasury official dont you glazer so the katta have not yet made the kind of fundamental decisions on combating terrorist financing these are hardly glowing endorsement as one of your position is the issue the only sure the question is is that a childs light on some facts and ignores completely other facts including the memorandum of understanding with the us including the fact that the 1st legislation we had against terrorism was in the year 2000 and you can always sign pieces of paper along cut a bill if you dont do anything about them. You know we do meaningless we know what you think these comments are so well there are some other common you havent got the political will as latest october 27th in the u. S. Secretary treasury secretary steven minutiae so the terrorists were continuing to use both the charity and Money Service sectors in qatar for illicit finance and. Crackdown on maneuvers absolutely and mr minutiae a few months ago was of other met with his highness and actually made remarks that are to the contrary of what you just mentioned in addition to that january 2000 and. 19 we had the 2nd Strategic Dialogue between though her and the u. S. And in that very dialogue the joint communique that came out of it actually commanded cover for its actions against terror as a matter of. Results a little isnt a result look lets lets actually lets actually look at some of your results because you have treated your terrorist suspects with extraordinary leniency or carelessness and i wonder why lets take some examples ibrahim was released from jail after he promised not to conduct terrorist activity and that this was a man who had plotted military attacks against u. S. Military bases in our power for punishment promised to be a good boy and will let you out of jail term im afraid that youre not even given the chance i mean youre taking so long to state you know spell of the accusations but i mean the chance to as value for yourself exactly and im dealing with facts so youre dealing with comments im doing no no no no what i said are facts the fact that the state Department Said that qatar is ahead there with neighbors this is a fact the fact that mr mission was in doha and commanded qatar only a few months ago this is a fact the fact that the name that me just mentioned and the 4 the only 4 names that we have on their dignity list as that is they had actions taken against them years ago not only to. Those are the facts that you know you should put in consideration let me let me give aaron let me give you a few more facts and let me give you a few more phone it in addition to this and that i might want to go to a point that you mentioned earlier the problem is quoting courting countries that accused coppered of terrorism as if they were in a position to accuse other of terrorism whereas these 3 countries egypt and sounding United Arab Emirates had their own citizens participating in september 11th lets look at ability of akureyri arrested in 2016 supposedly served his sentence under house arrest very nice and comfortable for coordinating the funding between qatari finances and al qaeda serious charge just a few months at home this is a joke isnt no its not because there is something called the rule of law how many designee people are on the u. S. List you have u. S. Citizens for example this is called rule of law the people that you mentioned are on watch lists that is a huge difference between being on a watch list this means you are a suspect and there are no charges that were proven against you is how effective you are at asians and nearly no no the question is special effect to be of any type of and they are really in compliance absolutely in compliance with the u. N. Security council measures can you tell me what those measures are now affective was it for. The u. S. Government said you shut down his terrorist fund raising 2014 by 2017 the treasury noted that he was still actively involved in financing al qaeda a year later ill tell you what thats an effective measure as an offense i measure it it is very effective i mean the found look like no it is so do you know what the u. N. Security council measures are against people who are designated its not up to me to know not just i dont really do you know the last 5 years im dealing with facts then those are the facts im telling you that there are 3 measures i mean you can look them up on. Why 3 measures that need to be taken one is to prevent those individuals individuals from access to weapons 2 is to seize all of the Financial Transactions and 3 is a ban on travel all of these 3 international measures have been exercised on these people now if you want to i guess whatever your exact words were running if you want to be an isolated you want us to go beyond International Law then maybe you should state it clearly look. The other thing that you do is you play games with the west word word games in fact supporting the Palestinian Group hamas but insisting on calling them a Resistance Organization and denying the terrorists your Counter Terrorism envoy mood like al qatar me said in washington in april last year hamas is not a terrorist organization and a start so sending suicide bombers to blow up buses killing civilians women and children sending rockets discriminate indiscriminately over civilian areas thats not terrorism there isnt a single country that designates hemis as a terrorist organization where you know there are no going on or going not unique in that position we are not unique in that position as a matter of fact there are many are not aware of you unique or not thats not the issue many sending suicide bombers to blow up buses with women in general meant is that not terrorism any we dont approve of as one of those i. O. U. s and we dont approve of any of those violations however many European Countries dont designate that if its not terrorism what would you call it to them a lowing up civilians on buses what would you call them and no one alcott him and call him its him to call no its on its violence thats not acceptable against this is a terrorism you want to call terrorism fair enough but the problem is you are not dealing fairly with a different parties here were talking in the context of occupation. That is Israeli Occupation that is killing people on daily basis the you that describe this as terrorism or not how do you hope to play any meaningful role in the war on terror if you wont accept the common definition of what terrorism no actually is really we do accept that we do accept that however tim the thing is when you were describing the actions of hamas you gave yourself the liberty of the scribing this as terrorism but when i asked you about what the Israeli Occupation is doing i construed that in and women you shine away from describing this as try to talk to this really is about what they are doing and thats what i am i am talk had i am talking to you about your position or numbs for and i serve the these people around us enough but the agree that there needs im not here to agree or disagree im going to answer to the us your question i totally understand but once again should there be a unified definition of terrorism that is acceptable internationally then maybe it should not be based on double it and its not that difficult cambridge dictionary defines it as violent action for political purposes thats it as thats it nuff than should be applicable on both parties were talking about hamas here and youre the israeli the fact is your Anti Terrorist credentials have been further put in your governments readiness to allow hate speech from your mosques and on state broker us in april last year the Anti Defamation League which monitors hate speech so your government continue to use its platforms to promote strident anti semitic preachers why south true and give me some examples ill tell you one thing ill tell you one thing that always needs to be a balance between freedom of expression and what people think and then what the government should do we have many platforms on coupler that have many different voices right represented so to give you an example your government provides a. Creatures with guidance dont they for the friday so mine away by the way refused trying to tempt reserves the right to take judicial action against clerics who break the rules of this of the health of the us not true ill tell you what ill tell you one thing ill tell you one thing i mean once again we have platforms and bill had that represent all voices including voices that are considered by many muslim conservatives as voices that should not be represented we represent all voices and coupled with no exclusion of friday sermon december 27th teen mohammed reiki he told muslims that jews have an mateen hatred towards you in their blood and their veins its scribed the jewish people as your deceitful lying treacherous fornicating in chances are an enemy who has despoiled corrupted ruined and killed and will not stop and he called on all muslims to cleanse from the filth of the jews you put that out you put that out on your broker us no even promoted it this is this is not acceptable to describe no we dont know how an acceptable is it that your government accepted it the government did not accept it when the government issued a statement accepting that they promoted it no they did not do it no they didnt of course im telling you are you going on has i urged to i dont i am speech why do you continue i am with. Listen i am telling you i am a representative of the government and im telling you that any description of any group is and such terms is absolutely not acceptable its discrimination and we dont approve of it yet yet in other venues you have the slum of for but discourse happening in europe and the well its already here youre not youre not responsible for europe youre responsible for all the reasoning but after dinner but listen you cannot dictate what im going to say now but it is those voices islam for because war says are represented n. Many countries yet we dont hear that its considered freedom of expression in other countries im not saying once again im reiterating my position that those terms are not acceptable yet we should receive fair treatment fair treatment and by the way in many other countries including israel there are many who are using the same terms exactly against muslims back in the early 2000 scatter made many promises to democratize and wondering why the process has stalled because the 2003 constitution stipulated that 30 out of 45 members of the m is Advisory Council would be filled through elections every 4 years 16 years on from that constitution no elections theyve been repeatedly perspire why why the answer is very straightforward unfortunately some of our neighbors were not happy with that they thought that you should you care what you knew he was doing well no actually we do it and we do and now we realize after 2 years of the walking that we realize that maybe we should have our own path independent path away from them and thats why you know the criminal groups are in terms of your constitution and this is exactly its a commitment an absolute 16 years on you has us all feeling about what youre not aware of is that after the blockade actually its been announced that the Shura Council will be elected and the legislations are being worked on. Youve also made a lot of promises on workers rights human Rights Groups acknowledge that you have finally and after much delay taken measures to improve the pooling conditions that Migrant Workers in qatar have had to put up with why did you take so long. The question of the guest workers is definitely a complex question there is no question about our commitment when it comes to that rights there has been over the years plenty of question about you can fair enough i mean those were basically based on some Media Campaign success at all but the best on the truth of the most and ready allows the conditions in all these might be a workers i dont know we acknowledge that and we acknowledge that as a matter of fact the most recent Amnesty International report we have welcomed that Human Rights Watch are welcome to doha on a regular basis and we receive their criticism very well yet we may still so youre dragging your feet yes but they said that they we made great progress ilo in november 2017 closed the issue the case against us and we have threatened you a full investigation and if you didnt clean up your act you know ill tell you what they have to threaten you with the know they know and you they did ready so fact and know the thing is that what this is the difference we deal with constructive criticism very positively thats why we receive any constructive criticism very well so let me just continue that part after the closing the complaint against what are the ilo november 2017 we signed a 3 Year Agreement with them and the ilo issued a statement saying that should all the measures and that agreement been implemented others will be at leading example in the region this is what we aspire to and there is no question about our commitment to the guesswork they are helping us in developing our country. Your treatment of foreigners and has attracted the attention of the Un Convention against torture and other cruel inhuman or degrading treatment in june last year they cited a catalogue of appalling conditions inside the house Deportation Center these include inadequate sanitation insufficient ventilation shortage of bedding and food you are the richest country on earth shortage of food and bedding no proper lavatories no proper ventilation no proper food you feel no shame at any of this every anyone who hears about this should feel that there is no question are you ashamed of this ill tell you one thing to the pointis girls from my question as a simple yes or no right here shows again this is a violent were working on it there is nothing someone does it take to work on it youre the richest country on earth in the long does this take to provide proper lavatories for human beings it takes a long time it takes for a reason really really why do you want an answer yes fair enough so the answer is the following the problem the serious problem were facing is the following there are thousands of medium and Small Businesses that are very difficult to control so im trying not to deport this and the euros it was the laws and regulations have developed massively so minimum wages have been applied exit permit has been abolished whats known for everybody who promised to abolish it for everybody by the end of this year as work hasnt been clearly abolished yet ill tell you there is a difference between having the law and Law Enforcement to give you an example there are laws that condemn like that for forbid a crimes everywhere theres a smell in that crime stops of course no there are many violations yes learn from harlem and you dont have people who object but you dont recall you have to can anyone not know your emir in 24 then so. We are going to do this then i will accept to know when youre such an exceptional when you havent done the homework properly the National HumanRights Committee and other issues a report or nearly basis about the conditions of the migrant well why theres no proper ventilation of that problem no banks were no proper food and no proper law that you are in your door the Television Stands why is it appalling state of that snow thats why would im proving why did Amnesty InternationalHuman Rights Watch that we said that we have made the great the problem never do anything unless you push a notion of the no we do and you grab your feet do you know of an idea of repeat the you know arrest and every roof that is completely inaccurate to the minimum we dont eliminate all necessary no we dont do the minimum we are the best when it comes to our region by the way really of course we are can you give me examples from the neighboring countries. And a Un Convention against torture and the other cruel inhuman or degrading treatment says that what is striking is the number of times the Committee Says you have failed to provide the un with crusted information particularly about your Justice System or you so reluctant to live up to the suspect to be obligation ill get to that but i just need to address one point that you mentioned about that we dont do actions towards the conditions of Migrant Workers are not unless were pushed through and 2008 we have launched our vision 2030 and right in that vision one of the 4 pillars about as was about Human Development and improving the conditions for the Migrant Workers was there and others and certainly the un is still saying no proper for a very violent solution no proper lavatories no proper burying our food thats taken a long time absolutely seconal in some forgive or has even a long time the entire world there are violations in and using richest and you are the richest country that is one of you not complying with the uns requests for information ill tell you why i know but unfortunately really the one thing on the richest country i need to address this there are violations against Migrant Workers in every country in the world im not talking about every country not yours not this means that we are we can treasure what about games you know what your family what about venus what about mars whats happening our moon what im talking about happens after that what have you still seem to want to drill i said that no we want to address it i said that we have improved i said that we have welcomed the emptiness Amnesty International report. I mean once again we are a she also you are not living up to to lead to your committee exactly and we have welcomed that and we said that we are working on this there is a huge difference between having violations that are systematic and violations that happen because of the complexity of the situation you feel no shame to you for putting people in these conditions to you to were not putting people under these conditions. You know who we are in the deportations and once again no one said this is completely not acceptable this is what i said what i said was very clear there isnt something thats a systematic and as soon as we discover a violation we act upon that there is no question about this look at the blockade after 2 years of blockade from the arab quartet your foreign minister recently returned in the last few days summits in saudi arabia does this mean the block is the promise of yes yes no no doesnt this only shows our commitment to a corporation basically and it was the result of mediation from the side of the emir of kuwait we honored that and our Prime Minister attended we had didnt like the turn of the statements of the orient and not dealing with iran before they were too harsh on iran and thats not accurate we had reservations on the statements and im about to explain why because iraq by the way had reservations and other countries also had reservations the reason is the following i mean were meeting at the just as the g. C. C. And the other government operation that runs a Gulf Cooperation Council much cooperation is of much cooperation this is a problem so right in that statement they say the opposite they say that the cooperation is great and they decided to ignore the fact that there is a blockade they decided to ignore the fact that there are thousands of families that are currently separated because of that looking and then at the arab level they refused to address libya despite whats happening and the horrors that are happening because of unfortunately incitement by the same blockading countries for the general have tried to displace thousands of people in libya they refuse to address syria thats why of course we objected to those statements and were not alone are you afraid with the u. S. Reinforcing its striper naval strike power in the region with the focus of saudi arabia the u. A. E. That there will be war with iran in freedom and well what we heard from the American Administration is that they want to have dialogue but not for escalation so i dont think that any party once escalation and this point and you are satisfied that it isnt going to escalate out of control at any point then of course were watching instability and instability caused by the blockade against you instability caused by america putting force once of its forces in the area a war are in this region i mean means a problem for the entire world if you dont think i. Would hope that it is but then i mean we have to be very very cautious as were watching we need to have all parties to be talking to each other there are countries that are mediating force the Prime Minister of japan was just in iran so were hoping that some of those efforts will eventually lead into you know has some if not. If not. 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