There was a little testy to say the least of course you can debate you know about how wise it is for any celebrity to weigh in on such sensitive topics the reason why we included this here is that kashmir is just such an emotive and stunningly emotional topic why. You know for both countries the world in the end part is the only strain of says something about their self definition you know for india even though it has a hindu majority its dark to secularism its a secular state without any state religion and so the idea of having a muslim majority state carries great symbolic value because as you know in 97 when the british left the subcontinent was divided between india and the creation of this new country going to pakistan which is an Islamic Republic for baucus than you know they see this as the sort of Unfinished Business of partition why is it that this part of you know of what was formerly British India why is it the this part of that land mass even though it has a muslim majority is with their hated enemy india and so it will be sonnys this is really going central to their not only in terms of terms of how they imagine themselves but to their diplomacy to the fact that the army plays a very large role in pakistan partly because the fish were part of the so important and now they see india tightening its grip and i think for them this is a sense that something that they have held so dear even though they havent been able to do that much about it may be slipping out of their grasp permanently and so the notion literally im going to push a little bit back on that mr de may because you know the kashmiris are also not very happy with what has happened are they havent been consulted by india about this latest move i mean they basically usurped their country without telling them anything and took away their autonomy so lets talk about the kashmiris theyre kept in the dark theyre cut off they dont know whats going to happen next who is helping them. Look i have no argument there your question was why is this something emotional for india and pakistan and i was attempting to answer that im not exactly sure what your pushback is about but yes absolutely there is no question and we talked about this earlier that the kashmiri people have been i mean you know where the quality between these 2 much larger countries and the indian state has used heavy handed tactics i think theyve both india and pakistan have sort of seen this as a prize in their own terms and havent been really talking about the interest of the kashmir people so i have no quarrel with that as i said not to do may of the think tank the American Enterprise institute thank you sir for joining us. Thanks for having me. Turning to Central America now guatemalas conservative candidate has won the countrys president ial election it was forced time lucky for 63 year old alex hunter and he is now tasked with taking on a u. S. President ultra over an immigration deal that few politicians in guatemala actually like. A 100 gemma tate looks pleased and relieved after 3 failed attempts he finally won blah tomorrows president ial election little goes its been 12 long years 12 years of wanting to hold this position and not because i meant vicious but because i have a mission. But it wont be an easy ride 2 thirds of all guatemalans live below the poverty line gang crime is rampant corruption even more so immediate employ people live here for the same reasons there are just no prospects here. Even with a University Degree you cant find a job. We want security most of all fewer criminals in the thugs we need to protect our families we need to. Know its up to gemma tay to make good on his promises he won the election as a conservative law and order candidate with hard line positions hes pro Death Penalty for criminals and vehemently opposed to same sex marriage and abortion. But his greatest challenge looks set to be the controversial migration agreement with the u. S. Become a taste predecessor just agreed to it in july and only under great pressure from u. S. President donald trump. This deal declares guatemala a safe 3rd country which must take back all migrants whove passed through the country on their way to the u. S. The new president. I would like to avoid disagreement you see the boys. Disagreement is no good for us how are we supposed to take in foreign is when we dont have the capacity to take care of our own people. And i think the us will have to modify the my good deal if you did that committed to it. Would. 100 jumma to his victory is widely celebrated here in guatemala hell be put to a serious test when hes sworn in next january. And more on the importance of this election now for martin there i stay he is a journalist who covers Central America good to have you here in person the eternal candidate has finally won is he the game changer what does his election mean for guatemala and the region well basically hes. Conservative politician hes part of the traditional Political Class so i dont think hes going to be a game changer at all i think the fight against corruption which has been very important for guatemala but also for the region visit. Might actually come to a complete stop and. He has. Talked about how hes gone techno of the main problems of the country like poverty like the violence so you dont know about that and i guess in general its very bad news for the country and for the region because we wont see major changes coming right and what were going to my needs is change or at least the radicalization of the Violent Crime that theyre seeing there is he the person who will implement the asylum deal that his predecessor signed with the trumpet ministration well i mean hes hes been saying during the campaign that hes against the deal that he wont implemented however he wont take office the till january 2020. So by the time he takes office the agreement might actually be in full swing however right now go to my. Mate till the Constitutional Court of the country the rule about the riemann sol i guess we 1st have to wait for this step and then you can. See a minus appreciate what this deal entails just just broadly speaking well