But thats normal and welcome to conference thank you thank you for having me. You have what amounts to a failed uprising in venezuela behind you and your Movement Continues to make. Incredibly optimistic predictions about how the seats in the government why is that because the situation is unsustainable we have 18700000 venice ones have lost 25 pounds over the last year thats the beginning of a major famine you have been saying it sounds as food bill for the last 2 years youve been saying its unsustainable because you are using it becomes increasingly unsustainable and you know you said you said the other day that in 2 weeks. The lights were going on or tomorrow even very very low there were no injuries armalite this is still there and the president maduro is still in his palace with these armed forces as well with some of his armed forces i mean the head of his Intelligence Agency is now safely ensconced in the air well its one. Even more now though no no really i mean they are negotiating behind his back there are negotiations going on right now and they are looking to 2 to get out and the situation is just as you said all of this counseling will run out in the next year but in the last few days we had one guy go insisting that he had the backing of 80 to 85 percent of the Venezuelan Military based on war because based on the fact that they are suffering as well they are going home to wives who tell them that their work is a humiliation to children that are crying and hungry 80 to 85 percent of the military are the worker bees of the military they are not reaping the 8800000000. 00 of Drug Trafficking and gold trafficking that has nothing to say about there on your side nothing to do is absolutely transparent on the you are a world you failed to bring the military on thompson no on the contrary the problem is that we have cuban Intelligence Officers preventing them. Following their children and preventing preventing them from rising up and we have over 200 military being torture there have been over i took over 12 a full long way dont understand that scuse me before. One way or took office there were over 12 military uprising attempts by the military spontaneously your latest attempt was described by the crisis group as poorly conceived and easily subdued thats hardly a success is it the point is that people want change they inquired or in the middle im sure they dont necessarily want you. On me im not the only the moon of your movement i am an ambassador for the movement i think that they do they want out from this drug cartel regime that sport tortures people it is causing a bigger existence syria this is not violates its own cause not a huge its not a big exodus and soon as this is a loser least 12000000 people we take into account those whove been one or 2 of 1000000 people its about 5000000 people a lot of that dont you have to get on the jury im talking about internally displaced what we will have invited for you are you know by the end of the year and 8400000 by the end of next year that far out of this idea thats outside the answer the usa doesnt are you guys are voting to u. N. H. C. R. The oas the u. N. A. C. R. Isnt exactly a bastion of right wing ness now is it apparently your biggest mistake last month was to trust the word of the government officials you were talking to. Because human rights you knew that anyway so why is there such a big surprise that you were plagued by them why why began to they took you for fools student the other no if they took us for fools i mean we would hope that the that the positioning of column in defense of the people come in the fence of the constitution and accept an arrestee and be part of the right side of history would appeal to them i am fortunately i think that we are the ones who are going to meet and that the people behind this and i was not personally involved i am an ambassador i am not the president i am the chain of command flows down to mean. Not upwards the people who were behind stairs and took the decisions i think you know did what pops. Up this naive about the amount of money being made by the military and their Drug Trafficking activities theres another psychological component which you will know well from game theory for instance as youre trying to negotiate a situation you have all these different players and what you know what you know but you dont know what the other person knows about what you know so basically we dont we suspect is just very dark clouds are very close out of Christmas Day or that are sometimes our began our yo gabba this is a competitive new you may see as youve made a number of important mistakes but the people who pay for those mistakes are the people now according to the u. N. In just 8 days from january the 21st to the 29th where the protests began to write more than a 1000 people were detained many of them were just kids most of them were kept incommunicado for days without access to family so using their residence or ashley continued to starve we have 330000 venice when it comes to that you have very limited by government sponsored look at their lives at risk 330000 have been murdered by government sponsored gangs 7000000. And the best you find a way that you or you can see and you and they. Are poorly conceived and easily what theyre decided you ask what are you recommending military use are you advocating a military intervention im not here to answer your questions you demand to come here around so why do you say when i say im not asking you when i will read line here at what point do you know urging the people to come out because youre putting more lives so what are the what all the other options than what do you recommend that attack and what happened on april 30th and may 1st is in keeping with the constitution that was drafted by this and i ever heard you do that and it didnt work when. People trust you know why should people come out to mr karzai because now they know because now they know how how the regime is fractured that deals doll ok your and by the best and that i saw me now has an arrest warrant he is the hezbollah bad man they also say those issues raised your best and lost you know why is it about one price this group says you dont know most of america over is that the only View Congress or american the Missouri National crisis created no no military to our loss or marrow described venezuelan politics now and shaken he said the people were confused wounded and motivated i suppose are going to feel as a result of what we have done rather than 20 years of dictatorship and starvation and torture im sorry that has dashed now you know and we stand despite the fact that since then 28 percent of the National Assembly has been you know it has been arrested and our Vice President is now disappear disappear in the classic latin american sense of the as a taken with no proof of life given and because the rodeo insists in the last few days that we will as a nurse for the rights of all people know about a war and i just ask the question sure he has insisted in the last few days there is absolute unity in the opposition thats pretty hard to believe what do you mean of course if you post reports you dont move the 5th that some of the opposition Senior Leaders have become playing the blame game over what went wrong so its unlikely that you now you know how you saw the unity when they won the prosecution is absolutely across all Political Parties the National Assembly has members that have been that have been now exiled since may for us or have been disappear or across all Political Parties to know the sentiments you want them in your decision to venezuela has the president even for years no critically no i didnt give orders now im sorry im sorry what has happened is this after many years of the International Community they may not say you can. Got your act together and you need to unify we have unified we have a president according to our constitution called one way the law every single party is behind him my appointment for instance was approved by every single Political Party in the National Assembly by noon and in pretty high not ironically what has happened is now that we are unified the International Community has structure now you have the Montevideo Initiative the International Contact group the lima Group Conversations and have anna and conversations now all over the place and the irony is that thats the ultimate hypocrisy is that the International Community ok and sound like a bunch of squabbling children sets a time when we have our act together since when that has a new trails of my people since when have you discovered this new found unity because by november last year the failure in trying to fight the fight standing by november last year the fights were so bad that Luis Salamanca political scientist former director of the National Electoral council such a handout it was a show that here is very very kind of destroyed january tattoo strong january tat 29000 is what im suddenly came together really yes of course and then one by the way he became the de facto president of venezuela because mother would always in violation of our constitution we unify behind our constitution and not everybody seemed very happy with the way he took the presidency what do you mean yes 100 henry could come upon us one of the most visible of with. One of the most visible opposition figures when why do it took possession of the assembly the view of the majority of the venezuelan opposition was that ought not to be appointed president the 23rd of january dont be appointed as sidelined when you dont know how the ends and i just finished and i just saw the 23rd of january came and he appointed himself we didnt have any information it surprised many leaders in the opposition at the. Only lives are his wages are you guys is going to stall and politics for a long time for good reason hes a 2 time loser president ial candidate and he does not have the support of the venezuelan people one by the also has views are automatically to be dismissed because they dont coincide with no they just gone side with the will of the venezuelan people who want out from this regime he is not the leader of a Political Party he is not even really involved in the Political Party anymore and he fled the country and came in under dubious circumstances i mean if thats the pope is thats the one person you choose when you have millions of people weeping in the streets for why they all and and he and i visited the country and you can see him when he went on that tour at the end of the diaspora and you know unless he knows us and then i drove still in the president ial palace and new people trying to find protection of the president and the regime is in the president ial palace because the Russian Military the international lath thinks that its perfectly fine ok for the russians to invade us basically and have military advisors talk about the military now go there and have military advisors in cuban intelligence he talked about the military has signed up and led the elana Foreign Terrorist Organization which personally intimidated time or can we just can know how you dont know that on any stops the uprising mourns the housing issues same way theyre not seen as i said why we dont need speeches i want to talk about the military im going to talk about the fact that it was reported the blank wedo said he would probably accept a u. S. Military intervention if the United States proposed it you have been talking to the u. S. Military your movement has been talking to the us my counterpart about interest. Rates. Let me correct you if theyre factually my counterpart in washington d. C. Vecchio will speak to them on monday that conversation has not happened yet so youre pretty serious about this military intervention but im not serious well have a commander in chief that was my. Our president that is his decision to make he says hes already been talking about strategic and operational planning with the head of the u. S. Southern command he ordered qatar specter to have that conversation and that conversation has been scheduled and announced on twitter by catalyst vecchio my counterpart in washington d. C. For monday such a move would also split the International Community again you say so split anyway so youre not bothered about that European Union says it doesnt want military intervention the lima group says doesnt want military intervention you dont care what they think about this we are looking at all the options were also involved in conversations at our end negotiations to find a pacific peaceful solution a peaceful resolution the offer is now and has always been on the table for them to leave the country peacefully on the plane get out take their ill gotten gains take their ill gotten 502800 1000000000 dollars that they have stolen ok take some portion of that and leave and that has to get back to democracy and that the 85 to 90 percent of people in venice whether who want to mother would go out to carry on with their lives leverage of the many many are about is this you so you can get on a plane going to the country yes or no justice and the ability there will be a simple whove been motoring and told you they just got off scot free how forgiving do you think the vendors will people are that a show be after what you say has been done to them well murdering the torturing more that is a force that is obviously set up. There on the internet is that all of the document you can download the document its called plan base and its in that we have a plan for Transitional Justice its in our governments bad for Transitional Justice and the truth and Reconciliation Commission which happens after you have regime change and you know this because of done this this has happened a number of times before so we will follow the International Standard on that really the fact is these offers of amnesty may well be illegal under International Law and might well run counter to venezuelas international. In january Human Rights Watch called on you to amend your amnesty bill saying that any amnesty guaranteeing impunity by absolving government and military officials of the most serious Human Rights Violations thats incompatible with venezuela thats correct when china had no obligation thats correct our ambassador to czechoslovakia is actually the one who brought the case to the i. C. C. So the major human rights lawyer tomorrow so who so you dont have the slightest knowledge of these and more than those 80 that sounds on what the how the how the intern and we will take direction from the International Criminal court on how crimes against humanity quant people who commits crimes against humanity is very different case and go into a different basket there are people who are guilty of Money Laundering drug tunnel through my manager im talking about people who murder who torture who forced disappearances yourself. Youre saying let the whole lot get out you know we are saying we are using this knowing we knew i was going like get your facts wrong really yes your facts are wrong so when our president popularization president has distinguished that he has clearly stated everybody has stated it at least 20 times 10 that anybody who is not guilty of crimes against humanity can be offered amnesty those who are guilty of crimes against humanity do not care that s. T. Period and thats in keeping with International Law so im not sure where youre getting a fact is about the 3rd or 4th time in this interview youre wrong so why if im so wrong why have all of the human rights organizations got onto your case and said this is something you shouldnt be doing gonzales on whats in their minds i can only speak to the 5 a day where i didnt hear these words either i dont know but i think you can go on you can go online and find them when this week whats extraordinary also is that not only are you offering amnesty to some of the military and government personnel but you about the offer to give them a place in Transitional Government lets think about. For a movie just that has now you know youre not how dare you launch forgiving do you think voters would will be that is something that will be an ounce of change and what the menace for the people in want for and what form will are your desire will be it will be put to them it will be put to them and Transitional Government is not a permanent government and you know how transitions to democracy are always complicated hard choices oh ways have to be made but again we look at the 330000 people the government has murdered with gangs we look at the 18700000 people on their way to a major famine 7000000 of whom are are in danger imminent danger of dying and or in imminent danger and in mr justice humanitarian aid so just humanitarian care is aid is being 0 so i this regime who is shooting people for carrying out this if you deserve some of those disputing you say that are you telling me then the justice tell you im sasha and becomes no transition comes 1st those who come to realize the error of their ways and come to love our people and their country and the constitution will have that credited to them even if theyre going to the government even if they do the military really if they will not use crimes well that is something yes that is long as we get the regime transferred back of the country transition to baggage and this what do you mean i am absolutely certain we need this dictatorship drug cartel gone so that my country is going to be that is self again at any price theyre not theyre not a government they do not have advantage for our exam or not have and that is they have a gun they have the guns and we need the guns for territorial control as well we are also invaded by Foreign Terrorist Organizations theyre also bombing our allies and our neighbors there have been 2 terrorist attacks by then you might well militarily and you might well call in the u. S. Military to do the. And there are many militaries who would be out of the Colombian Military has asked for permission to come in and kill the terrorists you can trust donald trump taking that day trust on the trial this is without donald wait wait a minute wait a make no mistake here i am taking on your missing irish walking about asking the u. S. Military to come in if the u. S. Military 1st of all your own have not worked with the military the u. S. Military is not donald trump 2nd of all as you saw there was a tremendous chief of the u. S. Military hes the commander in history of founder and chief of the military but you chose another ology that does not thats a relevant and i really i guess of course im not here to comment on venice or the u. S. Politics im here to comment on my country you wont comment on the commander in chief of the military that you may ask to come i am not outraged and i have not been able to understand your movement. And i have not commented on it no that is not mike in that i am not commenting on i am not a representative of the Us Government i am a representative of the why the government period im here to discuss my country and the blood on the hands of the model dictatorship which is actually the worlds biggest drug cartel importing drugs lived he said that already. We now know that high in the full talks have taken place in norway yes terribly not direct talks correct mediated by norway whats happened in these talks. Oh not much is the answer is the short answer to that so what happens if we interview unproductive yet they were totally unproductive they were an initial out we each so because the group the International Contact group and the us that you. Love to comment on were all the other ones towards one and only way that were aware that nor you know and the un also again not a bastion of right wing nuts. You know were aware of these talks and we send representatives from why the government the mother decided. To representatives they didnt authorize together they did not speak to each other they did not have breakfast together somewhere in the point once the magic was with the norwegian or fish holes to state their position and under what conditions they would negotiate we stayed so thats the next step so we stated we were very clear and my president has been very clear and he stated it once again online yesterday whats the next step that we will enter into any we will enter into good faith negotiations that entails and of those 3 step plan we have laid forward since january general setting creation of the system of these tools of course through our own dishes medical condition of course there are conditions to talks or conditions to any child you buy a house there are conditions its a little different well of course thats right there are 30000000 lives at stake so oh yes if there are conditions for your purchase of a house or your old us sir youll get a valid save even 30000000 people are going to lay down the conditions which the other side is going to refuse help for as though we have no we the other side is the one that never met its conditions the model regime is the one who is sad it does not want to elections we are not blocking free and Fair Elections the maduna regime has and the mother had a regime is the one that has extended talks in the past what has happened is one that we have had dialogues and we had the dialogues according to they chose the place they chose the. Timing they chose their representatives they kept our political leaders imprisoned and we set it free the Political Prisoners know free and they just carried on and in the meantime they have stolen more money is even more of these tortured more peat is it a precondition of these talks that mothers are not doing step is correct absolutely and what makes you think that theyre going to do that for you what makes you think because they were negotiating to get him out already there has been a great others are saying you. Know they were arent they are you are convinced they are serious yes absolutely i know for a fact they were up. I that i can all just goes on their back but i know for a fact that they have been negotiating actively with us and also with other countries to find a way to take them there are countries that have said that they will take them to these talks are quite advanced you think you can deal with it takes all this really take what it in the negotiations that may actually no illusion no way of saying when you have 30000000 People Living under a dictatorship you think the various models are just sour and more very dushan all conditions conditions low key condition later than end of the usurpation the Transitional Government which is to be negotiated and free and Fair Elections with proper International Observation i dont see how thats a winner take all of or my country is dying under the under the guy gaze of a fractured and conflicted International Community that has just watched my people die and be tortured and done nothing about here International Community is going to want why go recognition these are that we are going from inside the country that you know he absolutely does have it from inside of the car he said people on the streets thats not the same thing isnt what it what do you expect that people on the streets as power people on the streets its love. People on the streets is support people on the streets as an expression i mean the problem. And the other in the crowd on the pro ice are few and it can come and go well this is certainly one for motherhood of didnt it and it will thats right because he he wont get out of the way and he had a you know hes there on a fraud he is there as a torch euro he is there as someone who did not when president as i read that he is still there and right around the outside all right and all are we going to sign our duty now we are not on the outside we are in the hearts of the venezuelan people we all and with that legitimacy of the of all the western democracies all the demaio all the countries that are liberal democracies that have rule over all recognize our constitution and they recognize the legitimacy of why the all that we are in a situation where a drug cartel has taken all the leaders of power by the way doesnt mean youre going to succeed is the only way i does aside doesnt mean youre going to see or you die trying we have no option but to fight for our people i will fight for my people until i draw my last breath but listen with thanks very much thank you president and. 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