And on line. Of his face back. To you jean. Oh oh. My god. Mr. Love and respect. Internet shutdowns are a major problem across africa the cost of blackouts amounts to hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone and Telecoms Companies could bear the brunt well tell you why. Also coming up no way says it wants its Sovereign Wealth Funds to become green but environment. Say thats Just Lip Service either way the funds investments of become a topic of heated debate. And so don keeps up its vital exports of gum arabic in spite of the troubles with getting paid. Back home to do business in africa and want to get guns and glenn good to have you with us and so don is back on law in a ban on the internet was recently lifted after the Sudanese Government had blocked access for over a month so don is just one of several african countries where citizens have been denied Internet Access there are more than 20 countries that have had some form of restrictions to Internet Access since 2015 and that is getting expensive just the shutdown in sudan could cost more than 1. 00 and a half 1000000000. 00 according to one estimate ordinary people and businesses are footing this bill and for telecoms the cost could be more than just the loss of money take africas biggest telecoms operator m. T. N. It was accused by a group of n. G. O. S of being complicit in Human Rights Violations in sudan for going along with a Government Order to shutdown the intimate quite a complex issue and im very happy to have you with me in the studio my colleague chip jim bellew good to have you with us to ponder now you really looked into this issue even wrote an online article about it well hear about that in just a moment but why are internet shutdowns increasingly a problem in africa while there of course increasingly a problem because a lot of people are getting online and a lot of people rely on you know being on the internet for a lot of services actually in ordinary Services Like paying bills a lot of africans dont have a bank account and a lot of the actually transactions are actually via mobile payments theyre way more mobile payments in africa than say Bank Transactions so thats one issue and of course businesses as well rely on the internet for email communication to look people also communicate by. Whats up or skype a lot of countries dont have like proper fixed lines or you know not just the fixed lines but the Postal Services dont work as they should and not as sophisticated as the Postal Services here in europe or in you know other places in the west so thats their fee and issues of course when you shut down the internet basically youre cutting off the lifeline full of people jobs and of course someone who want to send money to someone to Pay School Fees or hospital fees thats definitions so its really like like affecting people where they really need the money and how they exchange the money or communicate so i can see the problem for individuals and businesses in particular but why is it a problem for the Telecoms Companies yeah thats a trade its a tricky one theyre sort of in between here because theyre the ones carrying out the orders to shut the internet and thats where the Telecommunications Companies have trouble because of course they get the orders from the government and they have to do you know take the order potentially. And because theyre seen as complicit in the Government Order that could you know basically land the whole population in trouble because they cannot communicate or do anything and they do it the government is saying and this would do this in the name of state security the Telecommunications Companies could also be seen as liable for some of the things that have that happen and thats what we saw with m. T. N. Like you mentioned before m. T. N. Was accused by a group of around 2 dozen n. G. O. S for potentially being complicit you know with the Human Rights Violations that took place in sudan during the internet shutdown so that could have been you know people someone dying as a result of an into that shell something linked to it of course what they can prove that in court is a whole other question but its a huge Reputational Risk for companies a nickel to be sued by their shareholders and also customers as well i mean what are they expected to do like defy the governments wish somehow how can you solve the situation for all parties concerned exactly they were really like caught in the middle and thats the problem the thing is that weve seen in 2 different african countries this year people. You know ordinary people a lawyer and sue dont challenge that decision by the Transitional Military Council to shut down the internet and he was able to win in court and in zimbabwe as well we saw that happen where the courts decided in favor of the people who challenge the decision the same the minister for state security actually didnt have the authority to shut down the internet so the courts are deciding in favor of the people and the problem has been that the Telecommunications Industry has been sort of taking the backseat they havent been fighting with the people and the activists the experts saying you need to be doing something also because its good for your business essentially thats the message so joining forces with the individual showing that we are one of you know any bad the branch just like you do would help them now as i mentioned early on as we could clearly hear you really looked into this topic and if you want to know war about this also about the various countries that are involved or impacted by internet shutdowns what can i find out for well its all in. Business i wrote an article and really enjoyed speaking with 3 different experts who are quoted in that article as a tool that was used to you know calculate some of the losses you know incurred potentially as a result of internet shutdowns in 5 Different Countries the top 5 for this year so far and all the countries are also there so you can take a listen back to its old air and i hope you know enjoy reading that and of course reach out on social media for some reason you have any comments and feedback absolutely to ponder as always great pleasure to have you here at your foundation flew from g. W. Business thank you. Norway is a european country and its a rich country and has a trillion dollars in the bank and that money was made from the countrys vast oil reserves and norways self and wealth fund has become 1. 00 of the largest single investors in the welt but now the new the germans ive discovered today a green conscience tough decided to pull many of its investments from companies who make them money with well oil and other fossil fuels and that is a massive endorsement of green energy one could think but environmentalists still not happy the aim of Norway Sovereign Wealth Fund is to ensure responsible management of the revenue from the countrys oil and natural gas sales for the benefit of current and future generations so what does responsible management mean that funds investments have become a topic of heated debate the Norwegian Parliament has barred the fund from owning stakes in a range of arms tobacco and fossil fuel firms it has had to sell holdings in hundreds of companies in a major divestment initiative some of those companies are. Coal producers either my nurse or our producers based on coal. Or for those ethical reasons close to 70 coal producers or Coal Companies have been excluded from the fall that was in 2014 environmental activists at 1st welcomed the divestment by such a bigger player as a significant move towards responsible sustainable investing. But some are now saying that its premature for politicians to talk up the funds green credentials given that there is still such a long way to go. You know we did government here is speaking with 2 tongues no we didnt Prime Minister was telling last on the 24th of may while speaking in front of that climate striking school kids that what they what the norwegian government has done since the Previous School strike was actually to divest 134 Oil Companies from the state on punch and pension fund says shes talking about this in climate terms. And one could ask who is actually the boss of the person in charge here Environmental Protection me indeed be a concern but the funds core mandate is to preserve the wealth of the norwegian people if the world turns away from fossil Fuels Holdings in those industries could collapse in value we are not aiming to send the message through the world that we are aiming to take good care of the region People Savings the aim of this process has been to reduce the overall process wisc in the region economy. Thats really this one is not instrument of the or environment more mental policy its not instrumental our foreign policy. Its a financial instrument to take care of the russian People Savings the Sovereign Wealth Fund has far fewer Coal Companies and its portfolio now but its keeping stakes in controversial fossil fuel giants like exxon chevron and how the burton still involved in oil and natural gas exploration. And now to some of the other business stories making the news. Seem achieved ok as a has signed an agreement with the Nigerian Government to help to triple the countrys reliable power supply by 2023 no financial details were disclosed at the talks held in the capital Abuja Nigeria saving Power Infrastructure is often blamed for hampering growth in africas biggest economy. British Airways Pilots have voted overwhelmingly in favor of strike action in a dispute over pay the move could disrupt the peak Holiday Season for the Airline Pilots association said it had not set any specific dates for industrial action as it holds further talks with management. Reasons violence in sudan has u. S. Officials reconsidering re imposing sanctions on the country which were rolled back 2 years ago but sudan remains on the u. S. List of state sponsors of terrorism which limits its International Funding and Banking Options sudan is the Worlds Largest producer of gum arabic and despite its status the country has managed to keep exporting gum a rabbit which is used extensively in a dust real food processing. Workers at Sudanese Company after tech begin sifting through gum arabic crystals at 6 in the morning sudan is a major exporter of gum arabic and it has steadily gained importance as an export but economic sanctions on sudan now make it harder for Companies Like africa to collect the payments sanction is the effect to go out of work but the figs of course fear of the money who are you because most of the banks now they dont do so then so you cant export to the usa but how you can get the money in this is that businesses like after tax circumvent this by using euro denominated accounts sudanese banks are barred from opening u. S. Dollar accounts despite the importance of gum arabic to american companies. To use for a big sequoia cocacola on the drinks wine post enthusing screw the sunni needs. Rising exports of gum arabic already booming for sudans our cultural sector in spite of the complications of getting paid for it. The south african government has allocated an extra 59000000000. 00 rand or roughly 4200000000. 00 to struggling state owned power utility eskom eskom supplies more than 90 percent of the countrys electricity but due to repeat of power cuts this year the Companies Fail to generate enough profits to meet its debt servicing costs in addition to the cash injections south africa is reportedly he also weighing other support options for eskom including swapping the debt for government bonds. And this is a business africa here on d. W. From mean to team thanks to keeping us company and for more you can always check us out online its deja dot com business on twitter. Total surveillance. Every face is standing and identified User Behavior on the internet is monitored. 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