Weve come to northern and the port city of. Cuts from germany is here for the 1st time hes on a special mission one of his former teachers a priest is said to. Cut she was abused by him as a child. Its a bit of a remote location i hadnt expected that to hit me so often. Was abused by 2 teachers while at the conies was clinic at Jesuit High School in berlin for legal reasons we can only identify his abusers as peta and as. Over a period of decades the 2 priests abused many children and their superiors ensured that everything was hushed up. In 2010 finally blew the whistle on the perpetrators since then both men have been seen in the town. Asked if any germans are living here. A man pointed to a nearby street. But the investigation stalled kutch is taking matters into his own hands and why does he feel he has to do this. Through what else is going to do it the good church is doing nothing to the food and i feel a certain sense of responsibility to people here in this. Quest to track down his abusers began in january 28. At the time the city with because pope francis was in town while crowds celebrated the head of the Catholic Church. And nursed his anger against the institution. Back in 2010 he was instrumental in uncovering abuse in germanys Catholic Church by going public with what he had suffered. His actions empowered dozens more abuse survivors to come forward but none of the cases was recent enough to prosecute the 2 priests. In 2015 the german broadcaster w d r reported on peter are for the 1st time its Research Shows that the priest had abused a female student in recent years and the diocese of hildas time in 2010 she reported the crime herself to the diocese but the bishop in charge simply sent her home he did not inform her family or report the case to the authorities peter are a scape punishment how could that happen. The day after that report was broadcast here is time bishops hinds good to bomb gods and norbert tele give a hastily scheduled press conference. It was bangarra to a talk to the female student when she tried to report her case back in 2010 so why did he send her away. This week you heard of me african live after repeated questioning she said very clearly that he had given her a kiss on the cheek and that during previous visits he had given her hugs which she didnt like to. See theyre going to. Didnt add it was very clear to me in this situation that what was being described to me was not a sexual assault. Its kind therefore i couldnt classify it as sexual abuse oh for munich in the midst of anguish to. Him. But by that time it was already known that this priest was at the center of the abuse scandal at the Commuter School it. Didnt sound alarm bells for you make you think there might be more to this. Pretty. Sound alarm bells so signs of affection migraines on the cheek or that kind of thinking are pretty normal among young people today is this your 1st. Before long the government commissioner for the sexual abuse of children your highness will have to look like took on the case. He called on the diocese to appoint an independent expert to thoroughly investigate the case of paper are kept and im told by have the impression that there is still a tendency to try to protect the institution why withholding information and not laying the facts on the table and that is preventing transparency as a transparency for in that. The diocese gave in and in the fall of 2017 the report was published by putting out a Public Appeal the investigation uncovered dozens more victims of peta are from youth groups a kindergarten and even from far away. But the expert in charge of the investigation pit im also found all the cases have expired under the statute of limitations man comes from the judging by the pattern we see here and its very probable that this is only the tip of the iceberg we can see a pattern in the church of looking the other way and being unwilling to recognise the full scale of the problem then im going snows most of all to name people from guns from here i apologize with all my heart that i didnt recognise the perpetrators strategies back then and then i wasnt able to draw the right conclusions to protect the children. If a blood. Guards then tendered his resignation but it was rejected by his superiors so what next would he look for more victims of pay to our himself would he look into the links with chile or seek to find out what paper i was doing today. Months passed without any action in the end it was another who felt obligated to take up the cause Mathias Kutch. He was shocked to hear of the abuse cases in chile and he had a good idea of where he might find them. The full that. Is one of the largest charitable organizations in south america with projects in peru and bolivia. Materials cut himself spent a year working here as a volunteer when he was 18 hes returned frequently and knows lots of people here. Yeah. Looks after children and provides them with an education. Many young people in chile find it hard to get work or job training here they can find both they can train as painters brick layers or office administrators. But let us cut has come to see the woman behind it all. Got got a little sister lena. Shes a german missionary who has spent 50 years working and shes won numerous awards for her work and has twice received the German Federal cross of merit. Over the past decade 5000000 euros in private donations alone have flowed from germany to sister catalina and. 1st met her when he was a High School Student at the county. Court for her project. School. The priest was one of the teachers. Adult friends to surround himself mainly with young boys. Name and gave them gifts like record players or cameras. In the children spent many hours of the school dubbed the castle during his Group Exercises the boys would struggle with their feelings afterwards they would spend the night at the castle with the priest he showed them pornographic magazines. Questionnaires asking them how. They had to go into his room one by one to. Ask them about their dreams and urged them to masturbate in his room. It was a time that. Came to germany she talked about. The boys. She developed a friendship with. Supporting her. He offered. To come to germany and live at his house. Numerous young people. Living with pay to our. What does she think about that now knowing what she. And is there still a link between the priest and her organization. It can be said peter i know you do have very well. You came to chile to visit us one time had there were any flushed and i could never have imagined that things like that could have happened to him in but he certainly tried to be a good person through his efforts to help many many people feel if you mention i witnessed that myself at the office. And look at myself and all the time i can and i feel for he even used his own pension to pay for a child to be able to study. For young person a man a woman people who just went to him with their needs. If. I know from the time that i was at school that he would give the gift to the boys that he was after the fishing. Or so obviously when i hear that hes been trying to be generous here when they get immediately around theres my suspicions that his generosity was all going to being able to pursue his last line and i. Knock in so could i thought i couldnt say that and i know they would none of the young people that i know and i know the moment that none of them could say that they became a victim at the front of all those who were there from the north or south some from bolivia to no one said anything at all cause i dont i dont have a single one it is the only one who lies and he still sending money. Yeah he sends money or lives for 2 or 3 young women that he got you know here and made an effort to help them much he still sends money for them thats had. Lied to him. I have to go. Yes and yeah and this comes out of this is that my heart goes out to more and more of the people who have suffered. That is our top priority and. That thank you so. Does every stitch me as it doesnt make sense to me to be honest this is exactly the problem this going all that well if youre too close to the perpetrator its incredibly difficult to distance yourself from them and make a clean break to come down entirely on the side of the victim. It wont be his last conversation with sister. But 1st he wants to find the people who went from here to stay with petra are in germany. 2 of them were mentioned in the report on the hill. From now on. To film with a hidden camera. In an outlying district of santiago he begins to ask around. What exactly did peer to our do after leaving can easy. He was forced to leave the school in 1901 after his students wrote a complaint. They said his youth work was merely a facade and that in reality he was trying to control and influence their sexuality. But instead of going to the police his superiors in the church simply transferred him. First to the city of getting him they informed no one there about what hed been doing and so once again was working with children he abused a 9 year old an 11 year old and a 14 year old the church dealt with the matter internally and transferred him again this time to heal the time it was now 989 here are was appointed priest at a local church where he helped provide meals to the needy. It was during this time that he began inviting young people from chile to stay with him a number of girls spent several months at his house helping with household duties in 19031 mother from here reported that she believed the priest was harassing them. She said the girls had told her he kept touching their breasts finally 4 years later transferred to work. 2 years after that he was moved from there to hanover. Since 2003 hes been retired and living in. When. Is hoping to speak to some of the women from chile who stayed with peta are one young woman agrees to meet him shes a new contact her name was not mentioned in the german investigation she spent a whole year living with pay to r. In hanover her sister also stayed with him and held a sign she is mentioned in the head disarm report but no ones been in contact with her. The family is part of sister parish. When i was 12 or 13. You know aga he came to chile to visit carolina. And twice he took my sister to carolinas house. She said he had touched her breasts. When he did it for a 2nd time i witnessed it myself. Just. I remember how worried my sister was about visiting him in germany if she didnt want to go. So when you went to germany was your sister worried so you know yes she didnt want me to go to hanover because she knew id be alone with him. But i decided to go because i wanted to learn the language just the way i didnt want to stay with him but i wanted to learn. In the open that. Right from the start he took away the key to my room. So i pushed the sofa in for the door but i was still afraid because i was alone and i knew what he was like. The only. Way that he rented an apartment and berlin. I didnt like going there because i had to sleep in the same room as him. But one time i woke up in the night and heard him making strange sounds in his bed he was masturbating. So good i didnt want to go back to berlin after that and when i did. I put chairs and my suitcase around my bed so that i would hear him if he approached me in the night. I mean that. Today the priest is 77 and still living in that berlin apartment. There that he abused the young girl from his time who reported her case to Church Authorities in 2010. That was the year the general public in germany heard about peta are because more than 40 other. Students went public. The church responded all the cases had expired under the statute of limitations and it neglected to mention the young woman who had reported her case that same year nevertheless the abuse scandal made International News and reached. Suddenly in the newspaper and i read that he had abused many children. I told my brothers and sisters about it or not my parents as they knew nothing of what had happened. And then right at that time when the news came out that he suddenly turned up here at our house to tell my parents anything about the scandal he just said hed come for a holiday. Then my brothers and sisters came and we demanded a meeting with carolina. Force him to leave my house and to tell my parents what was happening. The media reports all kinds of things and acted like he done nothing wrong at all. And sister carolyn a defended him. Then my brother told him to leave our house to carolyn i took him with a. New sense. Time. Christmas. I keep telling myself he should pay with a life sentence for what hes done. No one should suffer the way people suffered under him. As feel should be sent to prison to pay. For this idea that this he knows what hes done. Is so what i dont understand is that he talked about god and being a catholic but then did such evil thing was yes it is evil now he needs to pay to get out thats time sorta. At the end the young woman shows us a photo of her with good friends of peta are in here this time because no one stopped the priest the young girl next to her was also abused by him. That was the student who reported her case to the hideous time bishops in 2010. Most against a 3rd came from having to fight back tears the whole time because the cheese and. It was the right thing to do what i did was right. Just would be painful to talk about it but there comes a point when you have to lay everything out on the table and then its enough and. Now im going to focus on it from morning till night but you just need to have it all out as once and say this is what happened hes responsible and they looked the other way or cooperated or later covered it up. Well dont come on and then you can slowly start to close the box and save that 6. 00 was all and then you can get on with your life and come up with a little. During our previous conversation sister catalina claimed she knew nothing of any abuse cases in cheating now weve heard a different story evidently sister kelly and even took the priest into her home in 2010 at the height of the abuse scandal so whats the truth. In the torrent if they had said anything if that our daughters have problems i would have confronted later and center home. But you did not do that in 2010 so you didnt send him home to give my house was a question i couldnt because i didnt know anything they said nothing that you knew from the press need for not really girls but in general to find out but i said from the press and women but i cant condemn someone based on accusations in the press. I knew pater liked to have hugs and kisses adamantly and crystal and gave out kisses him self which was a bit unusual thats a stand at last but a kiss here a kiss there. Im christian man and i cant tell you anything i didnt see anything seen or know anything critical there be more abuse survivors who havent said anything i think my when i ask various ones i got no answer i know its not possible at all is good deal one for aunty there are some younger many are known to have someone touches them in a wrong way they give them a slab plus the next it to boost guy have to die if they touch their breasts or thought im close or they try to kiss their ass munch on. The mantle of course sometimes its problematic because sometimes with a person going to start to cooperate and go along with it and to the end it to the vet i thought and made the nunda vestment teach them about him then later they think that he crossed a boundary at all. And then they start to feel partly guilty for its just that they let it happen much witty thats except that they allowed the other person to do what he did and for. It gave myself a special i understand the 2 girls had a terrible time in germany. Is thats nice of me to need to ask for them as a partly there and responsibility and interest but shouldnt one sister warn the other and say dont do it was terrible for made at least so its the familys responsibility naturally host or since the familys responsibility the throne and how are outsiders supposed to know that in them and in dental and then the man pays for your studies afterward it is given you carry on accepting the money left up until maybe they were afraid because peter paid the money through us visa basically had gotten their money here and the office sold us kate on debts and thats probably doubly difficult because you accused the man he was at the same time sending your money that month and. Im glad. So as soon as i get the chance i want to talk to the 2 of them and i wont come with any accusation and form of ill just say how sorry i am that they didnt have enough trust to Say Something back then i think the thought that one had no element of us to say that they would have helped me a great deal or they had said some play ok maybe i could have helped a greater effort i really think i could have done with teddy if id have known i could have intervened thank ive been good to help the girls to things i havent really thought of yes of course as far as you can help and helpful kind of get it but whats done is done i wouldnt know how to help the families who have to worry 5000000 i really wouldnt this dish nish does this worry your song and i thank him but it hurts me that they didnt trust me enough to say anything it would be this this is nick thats my this but only. Because this was a gift they could have given me want from me to trust me and if they knew me. That steam never the less in life we lived for it and i want to include others and to move on to victory again on earth and it would really be my desire for the 2 of them that they can get free of this and really and im ready to talk to them with all the love that im capable of gods help so right thats my hope for both of them and the thing that we would be able to talk in. English to get she wants to believe wish that and i can understand that that her colleagues and friends are innocent of these things we surely did in the dinner. And others also shed rather focus on and believe everything that appears to speak for them than to just believe the simple statements of the victims he simply also helpful. So she relativize it plays down to 6 excuses or explanations like levels of fin. Obviously its a bitter experience for me given that its nothing new in fact it was a recurring pattern that it was i thought how does more and i feel it obviously i now have my doubts as regards the safety of the children and young people here today in god by that got my hope very much that is the bitter realisation. Which is bitter also for all the friends of sister carolyn and her world you know the all that and all that it will provoke a response that says. Thats how can we prevent this kind of suffering from occurring again. In the institutions and Initiative Service foundation. And how can we distance ourselves clearly from these perpetrators and the past and i just dont see. The abusive priest had access to children and young people for more than 40 years he was unwilling to speak to us on camera but back in 2015 he did agree to be interviewed at his berlin apartment. He said he only asked the conies us students to masturbate in his room so that he wouldnt have to report them to the school director. As for the girls he said he never gave them anything more than a kiss on the cheek. From his point of view he has no criminal. Meanwhile his mission is not over yet now hes arrived in northern chile. Are has been here before too. He visited the other implicated priest from germany in s. He said to be living in today. The 2 of them 1st met his High School Students in the 1950 s. Then in the seventys they worked as teachers at the berlin. It was here that they met sister. But theres Something Else that peta are and gang as have in common a large group of former students say they were abused by both teachers while at the community. And Mathias Kutch is one of them. Stripped the children naked and beat them for hours after his deeds came to light he too was transferred 1st of all to hamburg. After. He was transferred. To the church. And confessed his crimes to the church. Added that he had. Kept everything. They didnt want anyone in. The crime. Or. Is one of the most successful sports clubs in athletes from here have even. Heard about the 2010. So how does the coach. Today. There were accusations against him. Behind here was a great. There are many people here who to this day continue to speak about him with. Nothing like that that. He didnt do anything. And we didnt see anything else. He worked and that was. My question is. If these documents exist the north exactly is ations why some in person. But my ts cut speaks with a woman on the phone who has a very different view. Of them i feel. She met both about gun s. And pay to are at what the windows. They were known to aspire to divulge she and party pedro. She went to stay with peter are in here does what you want but is she willing to talk to Mathias Kutch about it but for a last ace. On and with a 6 oclock here who talks got very good. By evening our contact had changed her mind she didnt want to speak in a public place but rather at home in her own apartment she too has heard nothing from here this time shes received no compensation or offer of counseling. Can you tell us how you got to know better than us the pay to holland orphy. Picking year but when i was little i went to 2 of them one does together with my family because it was linked to the church. You wanted me from media into saving your b. C. Then vavi came to visit us and we really trusted him to think you with a confidence that we felt very privileged to be close to a priest for. After going over to me were going to therapy we got to know petra while he was here on holiday with my sister and the opportunity to come to germany for learning purposes and he felt that we were intelligent somehow. And that we could achieve more and have great opportunities. Here. And had you experienced anything with alfie at that time policy. There was a very disturbing situation with my sister. First he lifted up her skirt yes and he had her more than once on her. And she felt terrible she says shes never been able to wear a skirt again to this day simplest miking was something he always did to the boys of the clock not the girls of the bus that was very rare. For pussy look in google how come youve never spoken about this in all these years. Because its shameful. But there was Something Else she struggled with too in here this time there were appeals for donations to sister kathy and chris to even pay to our used photos of his young jeff from chile to raise funds for the foundation. Ilithyia moved up you know this. Is terrible to see the photos of myself with the ragged things. Because it obviously provoked an emotional response causing people to want to help i must hear now right he said and that really are you. And that is tough for a child but you know i dont believe it was in the padre we knew from chile where we thought hes helping us out whether that means fallen terribly or go pursue ok you said that when you 1st got to know pay totally bitter some way happened that should never have happened but the video will pass of. There was something that immediately bothered me c. And that was as harks 7 s. Imagine he would have been under the arms but he put his hands. He put his hands on my mind knowing me on my breast. If it. Has this affected your life. See yes youre going to see and again i sense that someone is attracted to me sexually i just freeze completely. Its like something thats beyond my control. Because my body feels a livable and i seem to go into a state of shock i will give you the look at your borman ephedra look at me its really difficult to get psychological help here in chile. Its complicated because its very expensive but youve got to do normally a lot number that your name was mentioned in the holders time reporter along with a number of others and. To this day no ones trying to contact you as part of the investigation. There is to go still some lead. West of americans i mean what does it matter if its one child more or less from here you hear when i heard about it i thought of course the others are german children people are more likely to listen to them they. Are the ones from sarah maybe not so important here its the parents responsibility. Theyre the ones who sent us there. An earthquake conversation. Was. Not yet finished and. He now knows that both his former teachers were responsible for bringing young people from here to germany but what he doesnt yet know for sure is whether s. Who is now 73 years old is still living here today and what hes doing. He goes to the Santa Cruz Church where the former jesuit priest used to be in charge he wants to meet with his successor and warn him. To speak. The 2 of them talk 1st 3 hours. Tells the priest about his own experience and. To strip him naked and beat him for hours he talks about his other classmates and how the scandal came out in 2010. He speaks about the abuse survivors here and to the priest said he had no idea of the scale of the problem he says hell appeal for others in this parish to come forward with what they know and he gives Mathias Kutch as his current address. It seems to be the case here in a rico that everyone who heard about the abuse scandal in 2010 really believes it was just slander and that nothing actually happened. But always abuse mentioned just of the bad people in germany who came up with an idea to harm their part and so they just dismissed it but they say hes still here and still in contact with the Church Members that are involved in the running club remind them of the. Its and thats true overall though he said to live quite a secluded life its. No longer makes public appearances in the way that he used to when he 1st showed up to the others. But so id say here off the top this comes about i thought about going to see his. Yard yes i thought about is that he thought to be honest i dont want that kind of confrontation. The whole thing would take a psychological. Other people always want that kind of thing some kind of reconciliation or whatever but thats not me neither is the i dont think thats important we talked far too much about the perpetrators and not enough about the victims really for them. In september 28000 the german bishops conference published a new study on child abuse in the Catholic Church in germany. It found at least 3600 children fell victim to abuse between 19462014. Cardinal i know howard marks apologized to those who suffered abuse. I feel ashamed when i see how so many just look the other way who didnt want to accept what was happening and played it down. Who didnt want to see or hear and i include myself in that we didnt listen enough to the victims all this cannot remain without consequences for those who have suffered have a right to justice. The vatican itself has since held its 1st time in tackling the global problem of sexual abuse by catholic clergy but what about the diocese of head of time auxiliary bishop hines good to bung guards wasnt willing to speak on camera he wrote to us that despite what he called intensive research by the Vatican Embassy in chile it had not been possible to make contact with any abuse survivors there. But he said the hideous crime cases would be included in an internal Church Tribunals looking into the case against paper are the maximum punishment would be dismissal from the priesthood. Our time in chile is coming to an end its a final evening in that it. Has managed to find the young women named in the hill describe report and by talking to their sisters has identified 2 more previously unknown victims of peter or he will pass on their names to the hilt. In the hope that they can receive compensation and professional help. It felt like the mission was over but then early the next morning had a change of heart about. The red one. Young boy looking for a german. Face. In. His house is back there. Was. The most i dont really need to go there ive seen it now i know where it is and thats enough. I just wanted to know where he is and thats ok its not about him. If you find its with good and i feel good no more relieved exactly lighter than before yes that lifes too much time. 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