Rwanda back to the home country from this one to see it 2 continents. You knew. Those who are suspected of taking part in the crimes must be tried before a court especially those currently living in france the view of loss. Of the gold one were fighting for justice. Because the victims have a right to that this is just you must make sure that theyre not forgotten. And not go t. A. s on a difficult mission. Hes in rwanda tracking down witnesses and evidence of crimes committed 25 years ago the massacre of the countrys tutsi minority and moderate hutus up to me with a very. Firm looking into 2 new cases involve 2 people who fled to france. International arrest warrants were issued for both of them but france is refusing to recognize them to rwanda and wont bring up Legal Proceedings against them in france either. The author who grew up into but i dont know exactly how things will go today but im hoping to get witness statements from some of the victims. Would be more to to keep. A log of he isnt a Police Officer or a prosecutor hes a retired teacher and his detective work is private to many survivors he is the only hope left to finding justice. But we cannot accept that people who took part in this genocide against the truth sees. Are living a peaceful life in france. While the survivors still live here in poverty. With the perpetrators are in france and of acquired a kind of immunity. In 1994 the stick to rest country witnessed one of the greatest humanitarian crimes in recent history. Extremists from the whos who majority murdered almost a 1000000 to seize and moderate hutus within 100 days. The International Community stood by idly and watched. In this church and shes a girl alone more than 3 and a half 1000 people were killed in just a single day. And this is where a lot begins his search. Regina is one of the few to have survived the church massacre. Who would do it that if you put. My whole family was hiding here. Who gives a good one we were a big family with them and now im the only one left and you know they dumped the bodies into the cistern in front of the church i survived despite my severe injuries. They did things to us that were so dreadful its hard to imagine and. Its agonizing to hear that these people are now living in peace somewhere else as if nothing had ever happened. We live with this pain and theres nothing we can do about it. Only. The words that will never heal. While many victims remain silent regina has made a point of talking to a lot. Of. The survivors ive met are filling out the documents we need to file a complaint with the examining magistrate will be a more tricky we need to show that theyre related to the victims of our case also. Its painstaking work to piece together the evidence while a law hasnt made a big breakthrough today he has laid the foundation for further research. A law is on his way back to the capital kigali for a meeting at the office of the prosecutor general. After all these years rwandan authorities are still pursuing those who committed the crimes but they reach is limited allows work is a valuable asset to them. We know how good it is for these fugitives moving in this and were going to. France and who has been in the house for fidgety to lash up to a number of other countries of this sort for us would be. For the Public Prosecutor schools he wanted a doesnt see unless prosecution efforts in france as an outside interference but as well come support the ill be happy with it please do really thats a sufficiently that it gets you to come on board. This is an International Treaty we all know how to do to. Create a government with Civil Societies to contribute to justice to International Just the National Universities and you cannot bring. 25 years later prove wonder has transformed into a young and modern society now the various ethnic groups live together peacefully. 24 year old jack works as a photographer and artist in kigali he and his friends organize cultural events across the entire nation. And alice drive from kigali the crowd has eagerly anticipated the Young Artists arrival. Here and now the past seems far away. But it has not been forgotten. We cant afford it because its all for myself. Its more like. Showing that one is more damaging. Its also showing. The real wrongdoing like why are we. Good. So where is rwanda now. His work is not only part of dealing with the past but also a contribution to a brighter future. A few days later i was back in the french city of qom. He and his wife jeff was ill have lived here for many years. Deaf was that i was born in rwanda her mother was murdered in the 1st few days of the genocide. Most of her family was also simply wiped out. One day maybe more than 6000 kilometers away but all of the memories are right here. The market in question was hit ms imagined on my i have the feeling that all the images from back then are still in my head. I think of the places the smells here for example in this family photo you can see my mother with my eldest daughter and thats my youngest sarah these are our children and their cousins a joyous family photo where everyones gathered together. Everyones happy to see each other. So we in our children are the only ones still alive i almost feel a bit guilty why us. None of my relatives asked to die. Their lives were snuffed out. Just like that one. Who has the right to do that. Having lost nearly their entire family is the driving force behind their tireless work. Our commitment has changed our life completely. We were forced to make a choice to choose a different way of life than not want to do vigneault we devote our time to research to finding the people who committed the genocide. There and to compiling ducey is about them filthy mom inevitably practically Everything Else in our lives has become secondary and i did it also going. Next door in their office the documents are piling up this is where the couple conducts they reset. Tracking down criminals 25 years after their crime is a difficult undertaking and emotionally draining. Nocive suboffice you suppose its not easy at all. And its probably even harder rhonda for you put it. Im sure her past makes it even more difficult for her to maintain the distance necessary. We cant let ourselves be too moved by witness statements. This is our work and we have to live with that. The law is taking the 2 new justice we put together in rwanda to paris that he hopes to convince the state Prosecutors Office to open an investigation he believes europeans have a responsibility to act. With. The people who committed the genocide are being searched for all over Europe Canada the United States all are looking. But france is different if it refuses to arrest reductive. None of the perpetrators who are suspects in rwanda to live here have been extradited. To extradition requests 42 refused. So our only chance is to bring them to trial in france. Here in the heart of paris is where they got his lawyer philip power works she has been supposing that if its 4 years and has a keen understanding for the excruciating details they must gather in order to move the case for it. Alone hopes the results from the research he conducted in rwanda last november will help her ensure the charges are brought against both suspects working with the good is very important to the lawyer. My work with the island off was a very profound because there are so touched by what they do that they have dedicated their entire lives to it its like theyre compelled to do it. That moves me personally as well it gives all of this a special quality certainly you cant treat genocide as if it were just any other criminal case you see. This is where everything comes together the palace of justice a law and i have spent a lot of time in the ministry here their organization the civil plaintiffs collective. I wonder all c. P. C. Are has filed more than 40 complaints over the years but in all their time there have only been 3 convictions. Those 3 convictions wouldnt have happened without us. So we were the ones who mobilized the investigating judges. Unfortunately thats the truth of the matter. The judiciary has only recently started to take initiative. The support we need. Ready minus france shown so little interest in persecuting those who committed the genocide. Ready here on the outskirts of the capital ready as france a special judiciary unit to fight crimes against humanity. Prosecutor divorce was directly involved in one of the 3 successful lawsuits why most individuals like along do the work of the judiciary for them. When you got to sums it when you both in terms of geography and time were far removed from where and when the crimes were actually committed. Thats why the work of n. G. O. S like on loans is so important. The c. C. R. Put together the files and presented them on so that we could prepare the indictments only. They could be any way the last culprits guilty of mass murder in rwanda. The same afternoon i know you guys to me detail. About you for a year you think theyre going to give you a body the lawyer from hamburg is also active in rwanda he too is committed to defending the genocide victims in germany he represented their next of kin in Legal Proceedings for years the 2 have been getting together regularly to discuss what progress has been made. These among some is not surprised that france has done so little to pursue the offenders its hard. To 2nd guard so its no secret that france was very close to the regime that committed those atrocities. And his organization are helping the Public Prosecution do its job its your. Secure line the prosecuting attorneys would never have managed to put this together on their own thats why its so remarkable what his organization and the committee here have accomplished over. A longer tear and detail max i want justice for the victims. But what about the perp. Bitrate is. One of the 3 men convicted in france for genocide is in a prison just outside of paris. We arent able to speak with him ourselves but after a number of interview requests his daughter finally agrees to speak to us. Were set to meet at a law firm in the city center but to our disappointment were met only by the familys lawyer the convex daughter had cancelled last minute. Please epstein is extremely critical of the law and his organization. I think the c. B. C. Are has devoted itself to the wrong course but people there are prepared to use deceptive arguments sometimes even false witness statements and preform related statements. They were willing to use witnesses who had lie just to get a conviction. For them the end justifies the means thats the position the c. P. C. Are represents and under those circumstances id prefer to defend mass murderers or there are. Serious allegations we decide to follow them up. When i learn has collected enough evidence he handed over to the Central Office for combat in crimes against humanity genocide and war crimes all o. C. L. C. Age there undercover agents retrace the suspect steps in france and rwanda an extensive investigations head of the office says it would be almost impossible for someone innocent to be convicted. Susans yes when we start looking into a case we dont rely on the statement of just say 5 witnesses. We need a whole lot more. Once we have found 304050 witnesses we know weve been thorough. Then even if there are 3 among them that arent necessarily credible there are still 47. 00 incriminating statements left. The next day back in hans in 2 weeks he is planning to travel to london with deficit. They need to gather more evidence to complete the 2 dossiers theyve been working on. While this struggle ever end. Has certainly appeared to let up so we can ever really know that we only could if people finally help just bring the truth to light. If that happened if we were given support and the archives were opened up to us so if the people who knew what really happened back then would talk then we could finally make some progress. On otherwise its impossible. To weeks later at the airport in brussels shortly before the 25th anniversary of the genocide and of course on the trail of the suspects again we dont know were on our way back to rwanda this time darfur resides with me we want to try to meet some witnesses i missed last time. We really hope will be able to talk to some survivors and perhaps even with some people who took part in the genocide. Maybe they can help us with our 2 current cases you know so you dont need to do so. In rwanda they set to work immediately throughout the years along and have traveled across the whole country they know nearly every town and most will attest. Today they are missing an informant who has uncovered new witnesses to survive this you know the suspect personally. We cant film their conversation the information discussed is confidential and highly sensitive. The meeting with the witnesses has to take place under strict secrecy. We have to be very careful. Because perpetrators who have fled the country might still have relatives here in rwanda. They could threaten any witness willing to testify. These 2 witnesses are as it were surrounded by the perpetrators relatives. So we have to be very careful and respect their wish for utter discretion but i just consumed what i speak. After an alan long journey and a lot of arrive at the agreed meeting place. The witness is aware of the risk but she still wants to make a statement and assist a lawn death in they were. Not to get out. In the jungle because i want the truth to mean only. In the world to learn what happened in rwanda back then. I want the offenders to be punished for what they have done. They would take the. Time to cross check the information do the names dates and places correspond he was seen where and when how reliable is the witnesses memory. The eyewitness was able to confirm allegations against both suspects and law and officer have made a big step forward soon they will have enough material for an indictment in france. Do you feel. Today was a 1st step that will have to come back again action or gold them question next week we might be able to find out more from the group of survivors moveables could confirm what we heard today. With the prison. But 1st a lot and of course i went to visit a very special place. This is where the roots of their work lie in a district on the edge of kigali. Here on these steps is where death was us mother was shot dead in april 994 all because she was an ethnic tutsi. Think its important for us to know what happened here on the morning of april the 8. For all the people who were killed here who were murdered that morning. So do it its important for the families of the victims. And for the survivors as well. Let me give all. The mailman the so unlike many others who will never find out what happened to their loved ones who will never know where they were murdered or whether bodies were left we do have certainty in that respect were lucky. To. Be. Here on this commemorative plaque. Mother is listed. Next to so many other victims. We didnt take up this fight just because we have victims in our own family. Thats not why we keep struggling. With the victim we want justice for all the victims more the renew the more not. For everyone who died back then deserves justice. And that is why they quest continues. The next day they scheduled a very unusual meeting that has allowed under law interviewing a man already tried and convicted for genocide he has spent the last 23 years behind bars people like him sometimes have particularly valuable information this time were permitted to join the meeting and even name the interviewee best man in man and he shaka explicitly asks us to despise his 3 life sentences he maintains that he has never ever killed anyone supposed. To be if possible. I would like to ask people to accept us as brothers who were forced to kill by the political leadership. Despite everything. To really give the relatives of the victims nell disaster even a bit of puncher tism your. Then they should forgive us but it is. Poor to. No but. Its a conversation thats hard for a large and too bad. People muslim there. Although it isnt easy for me and it never will be i have to stay calm i know what im doing this for. Coming here is the price we have to pay to get the information we need. I dont like coming here but its necessary for our research. And for remembering the victims. The next stop is the kigali genocide memorial that same afternoon. That was our once to add a photograph of her mother to the wall one of the almost 1000000 victims in 994. Despite all the harrowing memories def was our believes rwanda has a promising future. On no 400 who has just had his song here dont want that we will never be able to bring back the dead. But rwanda has changed radically since 1904. I think thats clear for anyone to see it isnt just the rwandan dream its more like the rwandan miracle seeing what has happened in the last 25 years. Yes i have to say i think its close to america whatever because. The remains of death was as mother had been missing for a long time. Now her body has been laid to rest here in the memorial site along with 250000 others. The idea of the i dont think well ever be able to say our work here is done. But being here gives purpose to our fight for justice and the work of all who are fighting against those who committed or deny genocide because you know when we were here we know what were fighting for. The. Kick off. Soccer players from africa for decades theyve been top performers and crowd favorites in the us media we caught up with 2 former stars sunday on say 10 oclock here on sunday. The greatest successes and what theyve been doing since hanging up frankly. Take off in 30 minutes john douglas you just. Stay up to date dont miss our highlights. Program on line d. W. Dot com highlights. The boob. Tube the but. This is you dont use life and ramping up the rhetoric iraq lashes out at the u. S. 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