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A video released on twitter thanked his supporters but he also expressed regret for the many journalist inmates hes left behind did germany strike a secret deal to get him released. But im Christopher Spring a good to have you with us day two of the Munich Security Conference is just getting underway around five hundred senior government to military leaders from around the world meeting to deliberate on pressing security challenges d. W. News well be bringing you live coverage of the event throughout the day among the highlights today british Prime Minister to resume a jew to address the conference and set out a vision for Security Cooperation between britain and the European Union often breaks it germanys foreign minister cigar gabrial is also about. To deliver a speech so lets cross now to munich mckayla coup for our Political Correspondent standing by for us mikhail as mentioned were waiting for gabrielle to speak to address the security conference we have any idea what to expect from him. Well there are two aspects to this first of all hes the acting foreign minister at the moment as germany still struggles to form a Coalition Government with. Social Democrat Party and that its by no means certain in fact its looking increasingly unlikely that he will continue as foreign minister now knowing that the big question is will the will this be a kind of swan song will germanys foreign minister try and get a lot of concepts across that then wont necessarily become policy once there is a government weve heard in advance that he may talk about ukraine this is one issue where germany is actually a major player in the implementation of the minsk agreement also in keeping together this european front towards russia in terms of sanctions basically keeping that backing going and then we might well hear from germanys acting foreign minister that he doesnt really see it absolutely necessary as unrealistic as hes already being quoted but i dont have confirmation on that yet that there might not its unrealistic to expect one hundred percent fulfilment of them in six months before starting to ease sanctions with russia now this would mean a video slightly different but very significantly different tone towards russia with of course the relationship towards russia not just europe but also the u. S. Being one of the big overarching issues here at this Munich Security Conference so were all really expecting to see how much domestic politics will be in that and how much Foreign Policy concepts we will hear in that speech mckayla you mentioned likely to be the outgoing foreign minister were all expecting that someone else will be germanys foreign minister when the next German Government takes office so how seriously are people taking him on his counterparts taking him to Munich Security Conference. Well after all he is part of what is still seen as a very stable germany and there are no question marks over the bend. Smart policies european policies a commitment to Transatlantic Relations so theres a lot of room to maneuver in even for an outgoing foreign minister without saying something really unexpected the big question of course is whether he will use this forum which potentially is his last forum as foreign minister to lay out that say some less middle of the road concepts to give the new government some food for thought make no mistake and nobody really expects every word he says to be then transmitted into actual policies and that really is a weakness of the host country here this time around that really for those meeting with german officials German Government officials its the substance of german stability that theyre talking to they really cant take talk grand vision into the future beyond what has already been committed to which of course is the continued commitment to nato but also to tesco the new European Defense initiative that some in the United States see as somewhat jarring with Transatlantic Relations and those commitments to nato thats an ongoing discussion here but that is not really affected by the minute which frankly is taking place here in germany with in particular the social Democrat Party but also leading potentially to a continuation of a great socalled grand Coalition Government led by german chancellor merkel the big question really here is not which parties will be at the how the big question many here asking is if there is a crisis in the near future which still is to be defined where the big crisis manager in germany would still be the trusted german chancellor Angela Merkel all whether that would hit germany is really in transition ok mccain look we will of course be coming back to you throughout the day many thanks for now as we wait for the speech from john from minister sheikh my gabriele now. The other big story of the day german turkish journalist is huge has been released after spending a year in a turkish prison at the same time have a six turkish journalist a newspaper employee whos been jailed for life for their alleged involvement in a failed coup attempt back in twenty sixteen now german politicians have been reacting with relief at the news but you show dont still face charges of spreading terrorist propaganda in turkey for the time being though he is free and back in germany. Touching down at the apple it done as you chose once again on safe ground freedom at last after one long year in prison the german turkish journalist spoke his first public was in a video posted on twitter last night. I think everyone who supported me all here three hundred sixty seven days if i remember correctly my lawyers my people debate or my friends from the president his campaign my family. Ok im afraid we just are going to interrupt that report on the news you just because the german from a is addressing the conference. Be to the uk to not push loggers or to interpret. Some of these in before and relative even current but actually back on for lesley debility and reliability seems to be the scare says in International Policy at present the olympic piece as well come as it is cannot slow down the immense dangerous escalation around the north Korean Nuclear arms race in the middle east after six bloody years and civilian and proxy war the conflict in syria is moving in a direction that isnt that cute risk of war even for our closest partners the increasing global claim to leadership of china russia has power projection also militarily to assert itself for all these phenomena leads to massive shifts in our world order with unpredictable consequences for. Stanford university recently stated on this but instead of appearing on toward the future today we seem to be above all about safe. Ladies and gentlemen i think we all agree in this room that we cannot simply affect this fate except this fateful development. At least i form my. Part want to shape the future not just and your it to me you two most important one says to the challenges of our time is here in germany are starting to help contribute to making europe stronger and more capable to act by and second to improve the cooperation between the two western players the u. S. And europe joins of korean was for us europeans it must be clear that in order to maintain our values our wealth and ours security in the world of tomorrow we must stand united. After all but not sure if first someone saying about europe is only a task of National Suffrage she does not understand that even at a strong germany would not have Certain National security teams in the league for cas europe means that we read game sovereignty it is not about loss of sovereignty and voice so if we want to put our stamp on this new horror night we must also understand that our own strength and the strength of europe does not suffice and like not the e. U. Nor us can do it alone we can only accomplish that together with our partners and for good things are for our american friends and partners it should also be clear that close cooperation with the europe and remains not only in a european trip but also in the us interests just in their history of the United States of america have accomplished a great feat is the greatest of all however is the spread of the idea of freedom of the liberal order the one for which was structured our world following the devastation and chaos culture of two world wars i certainly was and is not perfect but it is the best one we can think off. The soil today it is. Again i would read it for good not just the freedom from suppression or mystery but also the freedom to lead a self determined life thats only if we secure it International Level the strength of will we be able to prevent. The law of the strongest prevails for him to guarantee the architecture of a free world was never an archery stick gift of the United States to the world not said it was always in the interest of the us themselves this is all the more true today when the us are no longer by far the strongest power in the world but the little order begins to crumble i will start with staking their claim. And in the long run the entire building or what will change the entire architecture will change and i am sure that if we were to just annoy neither the us nor europe will be happy in this New Buildings the fresh powers will shift dramatically with the rise of china image that the new still Growth Initiative is not what some people in germany think is only a sentimental reminiscence of marco polo but it is that im tempted to establish a comprehensive system to put it Chinese Market world it is not just about business and industry that china is developing a comprehensive alternative system a system unlike ours that is not based on Freedom Democracy and individual human rights as the only country in the world china seems to have a real Global Security check idea and they are pursuing this idea consistently. Sorts of though i am not accusing china often is that what they are doing it is for their very raw used to do so. But we ask the west are to be real aims that we do not have an element of strategy to find a new balance in our world order that other places. Its focus on balance and not just pursuing individual National Interests disability but sort of this is why im switching from a convinced down to a corporation which in europe and respect to us is important for. Maintaining the architecture of freedom as it was this is more true for us but also for the u. S. To traders and gentlemen the bonds between germany and america go back a long well and they are very intensive to the present day there is hardly a country that benefited more from americas friendship and protection than germany at least west germany when i grew up close to the internal german border and i was always sure that i would not have to live through a war because i knew that i lived in a very strong security. Box architecture no country even knew more europe realized so heavily on the us in terms of security than germany and no country that had so whether it would be absorbed or for the democrats since World War Two for what we. Really learned from our american friends about the advantages of democracy rule of law and market economy but we also learned about the values of multilateralism International Law and free trade between nations like us maybe this can explain why these days we germans in particular are so perturbed when we look across the atlantic because we are no longer sure whether we still recognized our america is it s. And deeds is it words is a. Tweaks that we should look at to measure america for the good lord but of course we can also look back on my a bunch of successes the corporation of the u. S. And european states in nato is a tried and tested and continues to be the very foundation of our security and freedom for all our joint response to russias aggression. In ukraine for example is just one of many examples for our strength stemming from unity of vital and there are many other examples. Together we denied iran its path to a nuclear bomb or to become nuclear together with russia in africa and we major vision tremendous a success with the career of Nuclear Program and really of that together negotiated the g. C. What hell weigh in the run on the show and this is why we would advise our American Partners not to abort the deal but to try to develop new strategies together with us in order to counter the step lies influence of the radio and politics in the region and to push them back to mind them for this also means that we need to advocate for herman and and lasted Political Solutions in syria and yemen because this is their only way to help their populations and this is the only way to counter the jim oneill attempts of iran we have agreed that with the north Korean Nuclear Program Needs to be terminated here. And we are of course against any violations of the i. M. F. Treaty. A treaty that for business medium range and cruise missiles and europes to the present day we need these arms control treaties which could. I did states and to them then soviet union and later the Russian Federation negotiated in the one thousand nine hundred ninety ninety six we do not want to go back into the era of. Armaments logic because Central Europe would again be the fear target for such conflicts we are seeking a close coordination with our American Allies because we so our success will only go on also depend on the way we are dealing with each other and for grandmammas how is like china or russia constantly tried to test and to undermine the e. U. Is unique individual states or groups are tested with sticks and carrots in the way they want to stay within the e. U. Or whether they can be singled out. But it is one thing if possible rivals or competitors or at best three strive to do that if you minds and from our friends and partners however we expect that they respect the unity of the e. U. Or even better supported no one should try to divide the e. U. Not russia not china but also the United States the e. U. Is a rather confident partner who cooperates with the u. S. In a trust fund manager and at eye level and not as a group of followers whats your medicine gentlemen of course the European Union is not an easy. I fully understand out here you believe you has never learned to act in a geo political way we owe it or left it to france or the u. K. Or if need be the us to sort things out and to fix went wrong both ways have someone that we could blame for analysis very thought that wasnt quite comfortable for us but also the e. U. Was never designed as a world power by the project of internal reconciliation. It was to will finally bring peace to europe after centuries of war and to have accomplished this is a huge achievement this was find there is no other area in the world where round of humanity has managed to turn its former enemies into in the First Partners and them from. The water for most of us a great achievement in the world of today about the project that was possible just as with them one generation only to turn enemies into partners into friends. Thank you to your vision your for not but now of the e. U. Is facing the task of a similar dimension freedom because the minds of most of the twenty First Century of peace in europe can only be one hes agreed jointly to Peace Security disability outside of city three times. The leader must. So i can generate the internal cohesion and also solve the internal conflicts that have erupted then we need to to develop a joint understanding of our Foreign Policy interests and the european need to develop common strategies and to lose in order to jointly assert our interests everyone to their possibilities but following the same agenda and ensuring this will be really challenging task for all of us including the germans in mind that europe also needs calm and how it projection in the world where this can never rest on the military but only but it cannot of course go google it to you completely because as the only vegetarian we will have a difficult position in the world of county board. So we have a lot of expressing her. In front of us. That needs to be accomplished and. The a you could for example start their own initiative to remove from bolts the construction of infrastructure from Eastern Europe to central asia or with the european i mean but also observing the european standards in africa we are also called upon to make concrete offers with we have to learn to define our own interests in a comprehensive partnership with the states of africa that is not limited to Development Aid and we must stop thinking of africa only in terms of problems like china for example has been investing in africa for many years without ever needing to worry that one african refugees could ever reach china and chosen continent so for china africa is a continent of opportunities and we still see it as a continent of problems with more and also the issues with russia need to be addressed with miller ambitions that currently we are going through an escalation logic that was thought to have overcome us of the cold war. Seems natural to only continue this trend to right the return of the major power confrontation back into our speeches and into our doctrines that we are content ourselves with that the suffering and the death of numerous people in ukraine is enough reason not to simply freeze in a pose of rage the idea of a robust United Nation blue helmet mission in donbass is extremely demanding and i know there are certain ideas about their implementation in russia that differ from our ideas but i think it is worth a try for a good dialogue with the russian and Ukrainian Government as we should not relent we should continue to explore all options in its path establishing. Such a mission and. Establishing a ceasefire could facilitate a step by step lifting of sanctions and we germans we europeans. To also invest into a better life in saddams past two and rushers should not only see them as the first three shot where if not in a joint future should we have fewer opportunities for a lasting Economic Development and of the established ation of the russians and as a society if not in a stable europe vision of very different however that goes with. We have one we are with painfully aware also for the last spraggs it is for the e. U. For many decades the United Kingdom contributed important capabilities traditions and thoughts to the e. U. And a bit of reassured attempts to keep our relations with the United Kingdom as closely and as productively as possible even after breakfast because the United Kingdom may leave the e. U. But they do not believe your arm or a deliberate ordering of the west coast of georgia and surrounded by ladies and gentlemen germany must also contribute to a stronger european Foreign Policy a Coalition Agreement negotiated by the c. D. U. And the s. P. D. Their focus is on you happy and cohesion for and its a vision because the concept of networked security of a comprehensive security is the core of our security and Foreign Policy because we need this comprehensive notion of security to fight against misery and social injustice against hunger. This is why the coalition every man jordan provides for a massive investment in Foreign Security and development of the see through these appearances. Money power them about expenditure in foreign crisis prevention work for humanitarian aid instead of station will increase our imperio to investment in defense. To leave the sea that in other countries havent differently as they increase their Defense Budget but didnt use their Development Aid budgets with this one to one approach we are caring to see. That we can fund the entire Foreign Policy between bombs we need a group even a moment with us not just because europe is our best reassurance that we can win so maintain a competitive world but also be closer we firmly believe that we need cooperation instead of confrontation of this in other words europe is not everything but without europe everything is nothing and this is why germany will massively invest in the solidarity and the capability to act of europe and to help europe stand up for our interests. Or divide us ladies and gentlemen this is a much more complex world today we have developed democracies on the one hand and autocracies on the other hand i am convinced that liberal democracy will always prevail because of mankind wants to be free after this fortunate and only in freedom as we can develop the forces of progress so its about freedom and democracy when we are completely goes with new autocratic systems in a security conference we must also see that we need to have the region is still young or means to only place our stakes on military superiority does not. Two for the one we need the carriage procession will enter into negotiations to have confidence Building Measures and to reach out if you can wind across ideologies we are at a crossroads that is the worlds only lived through every other century it would be if you could do it let me take you to go you are going back so many years in the fiftys thirteen is the big european set out to explore the world as the ships of the portuguese ukrainians henry the navigator who sailed along the west coast of africa to find the sea routes to in the hours down the road what they did found mr macmaster who was the us for the musical they were driven by curiosity. But also by very almost at the same time when the europe set hours into the world in the fourteenth of the thirty three the chinese crow decided to mothball his legendary treasure fleet which so far has been exploring the in the pacific area because the middle kingdom was too busy with their own problems in order to continue to enjoy their care for the rest of the world this predetermined into the next century europe to set out to conquer the world from which china downs gently story conflicts with medicine gentlemen wonderful historians say about our times in six hundred ways which side will establish this as the beginning of an ancient era and resells the benefit of the then our socalled west used in europe as an example of people or will they see the decision of a continent who has the courage not to withdraw from the world in the sewer to gauge and face up to a more risky world. It is up to us whether we consider the future as our fate. And mine was for while wearing ourselves i would for every minute of my mind i disagree with Benjamin Franklin just put it very fittingly and id like to say dont wish we must indeed all hang together or and sure most assuredly we shall all hang separately. Thank you very much for your attention thank you thank you. As soon as im. Done thank you very much minister. As i already said we have a type show so we have time for one or two questions and you also have to leave and the next speaker to read some may is already at the doorstep so to speak i am looking around for questions let me start with the first question. I think we kept congratulate your personal lean on having achieved the release of the journalist denis to chelsea from turkey in turkey. Does this match your equals soon back to normal diplomatic ties with this turkey or does this require new steps. Well obviously this was a huge obstacle to our further cooperation but i just not the only want to go was a total of seven german nationals were released from the prison but there are many more. And if you think of the European Values and what is currently happening and turkey you there are huge differences of opinion indeed. But the turkey is. Big and important neighbors states they have. Begin few and some i think we need to use the current dynamic to revive all formats of dialogues with turkey from the oil well aware that this is not a simple task that we embark upon we know without it we cannot succeed overnight. But my only answer can be that we should use this favorable situation to move forward we should use all formats available to us. Use all opportunities including difficult topics such as rebuilding an independent system of justice freedom of opinion freedom of the media we do not always concur with turkey but i do not know how we could make any progress without talks with the one present by one question by the estonian president thank you journalist you spoke so movingly movingly about the future of the European Union and i am very happy to hear about and i thought since we are at the security conference i would touch upon the subject of finance and European Defense cooperation the press corps which was established during the stone and your concert presidency. What do you think right now in europe and its eastern flank held also by a few relate the list mall economists spending already two percent or above of their g. D. P. On defense and European Union by definition is a redistribution a union putting these European Union is normally spreading its funds around to spend where it is most effective its there it is the. Character. To think if these two things put together will one day give us the Defense Union were in European Union bigger countries will also spend. Where they can spend effectively not necessarily on their own army this would actually make European Union really to compliment nato in addition to military mobility where you can really help nato to protect europe do you think this might be the future of prescott a full fledged European Defense union with distributional character thank you. Its been the. If youre the first new but i firmly believe that our decision to launch pests go under your presidency was a huge step forward and we should also not forget that there are two strands to that we have the military part and also the civilian part of it. So i wouldnt want to underestimate the importance of building up the civilian branch as well i just returned from kosovo all. Of it if we want to establish stability in the euro we must also be able to fight organized crime to establish and enforce rule of law if you need Police Forces or just some system. Prosecutors general all this is also part and parcel of a common policy a Common Security fall of policy. I think we need to do two things first of all we have to become much more efficient our us for the part of the i think we spend half of them for defense but only with a fifteen percent efficiency because everyone pursues National Strands of National Procurement projects so it makes sense to cooperate more closely for secondly we agree to stop the cuts in defense spending but to gradually increase them so you know from me im sure that ill consider this target figure of two percentage to be difficult. Lets imagine that for ten years germany would spend two percent of its g. D. P. In defense here in germany for ten years we would spend more than seventy Million Euros every year over ten years im not quite sure. Whether after ten years all European Partners would still consider that a good idea i have already been approached by french and other politicians and been asked where on that site. We have seen. Economic leadership of. Somewhat Political Leadership of germany in europe where we were striving for a military leadership in europe again and there are voices who say yes we are all for inclusion and integration into the nato process but i think france is spending forty million for defense current year and they are a nuclear power. So i have great reservations when i tried to imagine that germany should spend twice as much or should approach spending twice as much as france does so yes we have agreed to increase our defense spending part of there does need to be invested into europe instructions the European Defense fund. This is what we will do it and i also believe that the European Defense capabilities will be. Complementary to nato but it will not replace nato nato remains an indispensable pillar of our security i understand that now is seventy years after World War Two the us is now is say we cannot really communicated and communicate it anymore to the american taxpayers why we have the same g. D. P. But europe but the u. S. Still has to take on the major burden for the European Defense and this has really nothing to do with President Trump but i think that the majority of the people in the u. S. See that so yes the strengthening of the european pillar but not with the intention to replace. Minister ladies and gentlemen unfortunately we are already behind the shed you are on the laws stacy of the. So youre watching live coverage here on news of the Munich Security Conference the German Foreign minister gabriele has just been on throwing the questions of the man you see on your screen involved. Hes the head of the Munich Security Conference were now waiting for the next major speech of the morning which is going to be coming from to reason may the british Prime Minister he was saying to journalist colleagues of mine there on your screen from the bavarian state broadcaster that is sending us the pictures of that munich conference were going to go now to back to munich to mackay with one of our Political Correspondents covering the see. A broad sweep in that speech from the german for mrs ignore gabriele defending the liberal world order that was spread across the world by the United States thanks. Oh and i hear that the reason why is now speaking so well listen to her speech century this conference has brought nations together from europe and across the atlantic to forge of Common Security the fundamental values we share respect for Human Dignity human rights Freedom Democracy and equality have created common cause to act together shed interest. The rules based system we helped to develop has enabled Global Cooperation to protect those shared values. Today is globalization brings name. Closer together than ever before we face a host of new and growing threats that seek to undermine those rules and values. As internal and external security become more and more in twined with hostile networks no longer only rooted in state based aggression and weapons designed not just to be deployed on the battlefield but through cyberspace so our ability to keep our people safe depends ever more on working together. That is reflected here today in the Worlds Largest gathering of its kind with representatives of more than seventy countries. Who are part of the United Kingdom has always understood that our security and prosperity is bound to Global Security and prosperity we are a global nation enriching global prosperity through centuries of trade through the talents of our people and by exchanging learning and culture with partners across the world and we investing Global Security knowing this is how we best protect our people at home and abroad that is why we are the second largest defense spender in nato and the only e. U. Member to spend two percent of our g. D. P. On defense as well as more point seven percent of our Gross National income on International Development and it is why we will continue to meet these commitments its why weve created a highly developed set of security and defense relationships with the u. S. And five eyes partners with the gulf and increasingly with asian partners to weve invested in critical capabilities including our Nuclear Deterrent our two new aircraft carriers are world Class Special forces and intelligence agencies were leading contributor to International Missions from fighting dying in iraq and syria to peacekeeping in south sudan and cyprus and Nato Missions in Eastern Europe. And within europe we are working ever more closely with our European Partners bringing the influence and impact that comes from our full range of global relationships. And we want to continue this cooperation as we leave the European Union. The british people took a legitimate democratic decision to bring Decision Making and accountability closer to home. But it has always been the case that our security at home is best advanced through Global Cooperation working with institutions that support that including the e. U. Changing the structures by which we Work Together should not mean we lose sight of our common aim the protection of our people and the advance of our common interests across the world so as we leave the e. U. And forge a new path for ourselves in the world the u. K. Is just as committed to europe security in the future as we have been in the past europe security is security and that is why i have said and i say again today that the United Kingdom is conditionally committed to maintaining it. The challenge for all of us today is finding the way to Work Together through a deep and special partnership between the u. K. And the e. U. To retain the cooperation that we have built and go further in meeting the evolving threats we face together. This cannot be a time when any of us allow competition between partners rigid institutional restrictions or deep seated ideology to inhibit our cooperation and jeopardize the security of our citizens we must do whatever is most practical and pragmatic in ensuring our collective security. And today i want to set out how i believe we can achieve this taking this opportunity to establish a new Security Partnership that can keep our people safe now and in the years ahead. So let me start with how we ensure security within europe. The threats we face do not recognize the borders of individual nations or discriminate between them we all in this room have shared the pain and heartbreak of terrorist atrocities. Its almost two years since the despicable attack on westminster followed by further attacks in manchester and london these people dont care if they kill and maim parisians berliners londoners align cuny ans because its the common values that we all share which they seek to attack and defeat but i say we will not let them. When these atrocities occur people look to us as leaders to provide the response we must all ensure that nothing prevents us from fulfilling our first duty as leaders to protect our citizens and we must find the practical ways to ensure the cooperation to do so. We have done so before. When justice and home affairs ceased to be intergovernmental and became a shared e. U. Competitions because there were some in the u. K. Who wouldve had us adopt the use approach wholesale just as there was some who would have had us reject it outright as home secretary i was determined to find a practical and pragmatic way in which the u. K. And e. U. Could continue to cooperate on our Common Security and thats why i refute each provision in turn and successfully made the case for the u. K. To walk back into those that were clearly in our national interest. Through the relationship weve developed the u. K. Has been at the forefront of shaping the practical and legal arrangements that underpin our internal Security Cooperation and our contribution to those arrangements is vital in protecting european citizens in cities right across our continent first of practical cooperation including our expert eyes huge extradition of mutual Legal Assistance relationship means wanted all convicted serious criminals and the evidence to support their convictions move seamlessly between the u. K. And e. U. Member states so when a serious terrorist like zachariah tragically was found living in the u. K. A young man who was believed to have been radicalized in syria and was wanted for terrorism offenses in france there was no delay in ensuring he was extradited back to france and brought to justice. He is one of ten thousand people new cases extradited through the european arrest warrant in fact for every person arrested on the european arrest warrant issued by the u. K. The u. K. Arrests eight on european arrest warrants issued by other Member States the european arrest warrant has also played a crucial role in supporting Police Cooperation between Northern Ireland and the republic of ireland which has been a fundamental part of the political settlement there. Second cooperation between our Law Enforcement agencies means the u. K. Is one of the biggest contributors of Data Information and expertise to europol take for example operation tree arch where police in the u. K. Worked extensively with europol in the Czech Republic to crack a trafficking gang involved in labor exploitation. Third through the shannon Information System to the u. K. Is contributing to the sharing of Real Time Data on wanted criminals missing persons and suspected terrorists about a fifth of all of circulated by the u. K. With over thirteen thousand hits on people and objects of interest to Law Enforcement across europe in the last year. The u. K. Has also driven a pan e. U. Approach to processing passenger data enabling the identification and tracking of criminals victims of trafficking and those individuals vulnerable to radicalization in all these areas people across europe are safer because of this cooperation and the unique arrangements weve developed between the u. K. And e. U. Institutions in recent years so it is in all our interests to find ways to protect the capabilities which underpin this cooperation when the u. K. Becomes a european country outside the e. U. But in a new partnership with it. To make this happen will require real political will on both sides. I reckon. Guys there is no existing Security Agreement between the e. U. And a third country that captures the full depth and breadth of our existing relationship but the risk precedent for comprehensive strategic relationships between the e. U. And countries in other fields such as trade and there is no legal operational reason why such an agreement could not be reached in the area of internal security. However if the priority in the negotiations becomes avoiding any kind of new cooperation with a country outside the e. U. Then this political doctrine and ideology would have damaging real world consequences for the security of all our people in the u. K. And the e. U. Lets be clear about what would happen if the means of this cooperation were abolished extradition under the european arrest warrant would cease extradition outside the european arrest warrant can cost four times as much and take three times as long it would mean an end to the Significant Exchange of data and engagement through europe law and it would mean the u. K. Would no longer be able to secure evidence from European Partners quickly through the european investigation order with strict deadlines for gathering evidence requested instead relying on slower more cumbersome systems this would damage us both and would put all our citizens at greater risk as leaders we cannot let that happen so we need together to demonstrate some real creativity and ambition to enable us to meet the challenges of the future as well as today. Thats why i have proposed a new treaty to underpin our future internal security relationship. The treaty must preserve our operational capabilities but it will also fulfill three further requirements. It must be respectful of the suffering of both the u. K. And the u. S legal orders so for example when participating in e. U. Agencies the u. K. Will respect the remit of the European Court of justice and a principled but pragmatic solution to close legal cooperation will be needed to respect our unique status as a country with our own software in legal order. As ive said before well need to agree a strong and appropriate form of independent dispute resolution across all the areas of our future partnership in which both sides can have the necessary confidence we must also recognize the importance of comprehensive andrew passed Data Protection arrangements. The ukase Data Protection bill will ensure we are aligned with the e. U. Framework that we want to go further and seek a bespoke arrangement to reflect the u. K. s exceptionally high standards of Data Protection and we envisage an ongoing role for the u. K. s Information Commissioners Office which we would be beneficial in providing stability and confidence for e. U. And u. K. Individuals and businesses alike. And we are ready to start working through this with colleagues in the European Commission now. Finally just as weve been able to develop the agreement on passenger name records in the face of terrorist atrocities in recent years so the treaty must have an ability to ensure that as the threats we face change and adapt as they surely will our relationship has the capacity to move with them nothing must get in the way of our helping each other in every hour of every day to keep our people safe and if we can put this at the heart of our mission we can and will find the means and we cannot delay discussions on this e. U. Member states have been clear how critical it is that we maintain existing operational capabilities we must now move with urgency to put in place the treaty that will protect all european citizens wherever they are in europe. But clearly our security interests dont stop at the edge of our continent not only do the threats to our internal security emanate from beyond our borders as we look at the world today were also facing profound challenges to the global order to peace prosperity to the rules based system that underpins our very way of life and in the face of these challenges i believe its our defining responsibility to come together and reinvigorate the Transatlantic Partnership and the full breadth of all our global alliances so that we can protect our shared security and project our shared values. The United Kingdom is not only unwavering in its commitment to this partnership we see reinvigorating it as a fundamental part of our global role as we leave the European Union. As a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council is a leading contributor to nato and as americas closest partner we have never defined our Global Outlook primarily through our membership of the European Union or by a collective european Foreign Policy so upon leaving the e. U. It is right that the u. K. Will pursue an independent Foreign Policy but around the world the interests that we will seek to put ject and defend will continue to be rooted in our shared values thats true whether fighting the ideologies of di ash developing a new global approach to migration ensuring the Iranian Nuclear deal is properly policed or standing up to russias hostile actions whether in ukraine the western balkans or in cyberspace and in all these cases our success depends on a breadth of partnership that extends far beyond the institutional mechanisms for cooperation with the e. U. That means doing more to develop bilateral cooperation between european nations as i was pleased to do with president macron at last months u. K. France summit it means building the ad hoc groupings which allow us to Counter Terrorism and hostile state threats as we do through the thirty strong intergovernmental European Counterterrorism Group the largest of its kind in the world it means ensuring that a reformed Nato Alliance remains the cornerstone of our shared security. And critically it means both europe and the United States reaffirming our resolve to the collective security of this continent and to advancing the Democratic Values on which our interests are found it. Taken together its only by strengthening and deepening this full range of partnerships within europe and beyond that we will be able to respond together to the evolving threats we face. So what does this mean for the future Security Partnership between the u. K. And the e. U. We need a partnership that respects both the decisionmaking autonomy of the European Union and the sovereignty of the United Kingdom and this is fully achievable the e. U. s common Foreign Policy is distinct within the e. U. Treaties and our foreign policies will keep evolving so theres no reason why we should not agree distinct arrangements for foreign and defense policy cooperation in the time limited implantation period as the commission has proposed this would mean that key aspects of our future partnership in this area would already be effective from twenty nineteen we shouldnt wait where we dont need to inter nitty e. U. And its remaining Member States believe that the best means to increase the contribution europe makes to our collective security is through deeper integration than the u. K. Will look to work with you and help you to do so in a way which strengthens nato and our wider alliances too as e. U. Leaders have repeatedly made clear. The partnership that we need to create is therefore one which offers the u. K. And the e. U. The means and choice to combine our efforts to the greatest effect where this is in our shared interest to put this into practice so that we meet the threats we all face today and build the capabilities we all need for tomorrow there are three areas on which we should focus first a diplomatic level we should have the means to consult each other regularly on the global challenges we face and coordination how we use the levers we hold where our interests align in particular we will continue to want to work closely together on sanctions we would look to carry over all e. U. Sanctions at the time of our departure and we would all be stronger if the u. K. And e. U. Have the means to cooperate on sanctions now and potentially to develop them together in the future. Second its clearly in our shared interests to be able to continue to call. Natan deliver operationally on the ground of course well continue to work with and alongside each other but where we can both be most effective by the u. K. Deploying its significant capabilities and resources with and indeed three through e. U. Mechanisms we should both be open to that on defense if the u. K. And interests can best be furthered by the u. K. Contributing continuing to contribute to an e. U. Operational mission as we do now then we should both be open to that and similarly while the u. K. Will decide how we spend the entire city of our foreign aid in the future if the u. K. Contribution to e. U. Development programs and instruments can best deliver our mutual interests we should both be open to that. But if we are to choose to Work Together in these ways the u. K. Must be able to play an appropriate role in shaping our collective actions in these areas. Third it would also be in our interest to continue working together on developing the capabilities in Defense Cyber space to meet future threats. The u. K. Spends around forty percent of europes total on defense r. And d. This investment provides a sizeable stimulus to improve europes competitiveness and capability and this is to the benefit of us all so an open and inclusive approach to european Capability Development that fully enables the British Defense industry to participate is in our Strategic Security interests helping keep european citizens safe and europes Defense Industries strong and youre a fighter typhoon is a great example of this a partnership between the u. K. Germany italy and spain which has supported over ten thousand highly skilled jobs across europe thats also why the u. K. Wants to agree a future relationship with the European Defense fund and the European Defense agency so that jointly we can research and develop the best future capability that europe can muster. Last years not pet cyberattack showed why we also need to work closely to defend our interests in cyberspace this reckless attack which the u. K. And partners have attributed to russia disrupted organizations across europe costing hundreds of millions of pounds. To contend with a truly global threat such as this we need a truly Global Response with not only the u. K. And e. U. But industry government like minded states and nato all working together to strengthen our Cyber Security capabilities and as our lives move increasingly online so we will become increasingly reliant on Space Technologies space is the main like any other where hostile actors will seek to threaten us so we very much welcome the e. U. s efforts to develop europes capabilities in this field we need to keep open all the options which will enable the u. K. And the e. U. To collaborate in the most effective way possible the u. K. Hosts much of europes cutting edge capabilities on space and we have played a leading role for example in the development of the Galileo Programme were keen for this to continue as part of our new partnership but as is the case more widely we need to get the right agreements concluded which will allow the u. K. And its businesses to take part on a fair and open basis it was the tragic massacre at the one nine hundred seventy two olympics here in munich which subsequently inspired British Foreign secretary Jim Callaghan to propose an Intergovernmental Group aimed at coordinating european counterterrorism and policing. At the time this was outside the formal mechanisms of the European Community but in time it became the foundations for the cooperation that we have on justice and home affairs today now as then we can and must think pragmatically and practically to create the arrangements that put the safety of our citizens first so ours is a dynamic relationship not a set of transactions a relationship built on and on shakable commitment to our shared values a relationship in which we must all invest if we are to be responsive and adaptive to threats which will emerge perhaps more rapidly than any of us can imagine a relationship in which we must all play our full part in keeping our continent safe and free and reinvigorate the Transatlantic Alliance rules based system on which our shared security depends those who threaten our security would like nothing more than to see us fractured they would like nothing more than to see us put debates about mechanisms and means ahead of doing what is most practical and effective in keeping our people safe. So let the message ring out loud and clear today we will not let that happen we will together protect and project our values in the world and we will keep our people safe now and in the years to come thank you. Thank. You Prime Minister to reserve my addressing the Munich Security Conference and shes now going to be questions put to her by participants and by issuing of the head of the Munich Security Conference the man you see on your screen at the moment lets listen. Were actually going to be eating into our coffee break and i hope thats ok with the audience well just limit the coffee break to twenty minutes and i think that will give us at least time for a few questions. I have two questions from the audience in written form which im going to read to you but let me start this by. By offering a personal observation as far as im concerned and almost everything you said. Reinforces my sense that the brics a decision from from the point of view of us inside the e. U. Is extremely real regrettable things would be so much easier if you stayed so here comes the question of thousands these are all friends of the. First question comes from someone you know well as been barred i had a former foreign minister of norway now to read it left states like norway are outside the e. U. But fully inside the internal market respecting the four freedoms is the effort to model an option for the u. K. Question mark and if with your permission ill add the second question right away this comes from someone you also know well thats Charles Grant dollars where are you somewhere in the in the back child concerning the future u. K. Relationship the u. K. Will have close and more productive ties to the extent that its soft and its quote unquote red lines this applies to the security relationship as much as to trade question are you willing to compromise on the European Court of justice and on the e. U. Rules on data question mark. Well thank you thank you very much first of all if i may respond to your remark which i recognize. It received quite a round of applause from the audience but we are leaving the European Union and there is no question of a second referendum or getting back on that those and i think thats import. Because we gave the decision to the british people and i believe that people have a right to believe that their politicians will actually respect their decisions when weve asked them to make that decision and to deliver on that as regards the future relationships trade in terms of efter in the internal market or the security relationships that we have and where we see ourselves in relation to the European Court of justice the European Union has been very clear about the four pillars and the four freedoms being indivisible part of the reason for the vote in the europe in the United Kingdom to leave the e. U. Was about the feeling that we wanted to take control of our own borders i. E. That was the concern about Free Movement that we wanted to take control of our own laws that was a concern about your role of the European Court of justice and of decisions that were being taken in brussels so as i said in my speech where we are looking to participate in e. U. Agencies we will respect the role of the European Court of justice but as a country outside the European Union we will have our own sovereign legal order and so the European Court of justice will no longer have jurisdiction in the united in the United Kingdom and when we look to develop a new Economic Partnership in relation to trade we recognize that there will be discussions a reference was made to red lines ive set out principles for our involvement in these matters and as today i have set out in more detail on the security front where how we see this developing this partnership in the future i believe what we should both be aiming at is a partnership on trade and security that is in the interests of both sides both the European Union and the u. K. Because i believe that new partnership is in both our interests for the for the future and thats what we want to well be starting to negotiate. There is a question from joe you often can somebody give a microphone to dr you often from. Very short. But. This is Prime Minister yes we should respect vox populi. But go back into the early two thousand the french and the dutch voted against the socalled constitution. And accepted the new framework so its not a matter of national shroom i think it may be a matter of national prudence. Can we take one thanks would you be kind enough to identify yourself. Julian lewis m. P. Chairman of the house of Commons Defense Committee Prime Minister some people feel that the brics it vote means that britain is reducing its commitment to European Defense can you confirm that this is not the case as evidence by the fact that some of the strongest voices in favor of increasing britains Defense Budget of from members of parliament who are strong euro skeptics. Thank you thank you very much well if i can take the first question first at the time when other countries in the European Union had referenda the results came out against the new constitution and then people were asked to vote again many of us in the United Kingdom actually said that was not the right approach that should be taken and the people in the u. K. Feel very strongly that if they take a decision the government shouldnt turn round to them and say no youve got that wrong have another go see if you can get it right next time we took a decision across parliament overwhelming majority in the United Kingdom parliament voted to say that the decision about membership of the European Union should be one for the people of the United Kingdom and i think its right in terms of the integrity of the relationship between us as politicians in the u. K. And the people of the u. K. That we abide by that decision and that we deliver on that decision and in response to julian juliens question yes youre absolutely right there is no question of us rowing back on our commitment to European Defense and security we are conditionally committed to maintaining European Security and that is why we want to ensure that the capabilities that we have that the cooperation the relationships that weve already developed can continue to be put to the good use of of the collective security of us all within europe and as you say judy and were weve made a commitment on our defense spending in nato we encourage others to do the same. I think we have time for one last question from different. Way back there. Prime minister. Your layout of the future security arrangement with europe for domestic security particular. Poses the question or opens the question is there a link with that treaty if you want to negotiate all the arrangements which need to be done on the economic field so will there be. A security arrangement without the you cannot make arrangement you envision where were going into negotiations so we will through those negotiations be looking both our Economic Partnership and our Security Partnership for the for the future what ive set out today is why i believe that Security Partnership is in everybodys interests and that we could be looking to be ambitious about this and to korea to have a new security treaty so that were not just looking at a range meant that perhaps more naturally the e. U. Would look at country but recognize the in twined nature of the work that we do together already on counterterrorism or on Law Enforcement and criminal justice work and develop that and develop that Security Partnership i hope we can start soon to as i said to discuss the security issue i think its very important and i look forward to being able to for us to be able to sit down and go through these details within the e. U. We already have a different security relationship because of our justice and home affairs opt out so we have that different relationship already but lets be bishops about a security treaty for the future and thats ensure that the one goal we all have when were looking at it is not about institutional structures or mechanisms but is actually about the security of our people. Is it gentlemen as we conclude this session let me remind you that we need to be back here at ten thirty sharp to continue the discussion with john clune and following speakers. Prime minister thank you very much lets offer a hand to the Prime Minister of great. So weve just been listening to a question and answer session with the british Prime Minister to reason that shes been addressing the Munich Security Conference lets go straight to one of our Political Correspondents michela khufu whos covering that correspond that. Conference for us mckayla resume a speech focusing on the new security threats that the world is facing committing to cooperation as britain leaves the European Union shes called for a new treaty between the u. K. And the European Union on security give us an idea of the main push of what she was saying. Well the really interesting point is that she really gave a laundry list of what the European Union would lose in terms of security if the u. K. Wasnt it was no longer an integral part of this and she pretty much reaffirms britains commitment to continue ranging from illegal corporation basically from finding suspects she cited those terror attacks she said that for every one suspect arrested under european arrest warrant in the European Union that stems from the u. K. And there were eight arrested on the u. K. Side so a clear balance than i think the really interesting question was pretty much at the end when we saw the editors the judge decide to paper here in germany asking whether there would be a link between those security commitments which are pretty much stating the obvious i mean nobody in the European Union wants to lessen the security operation with that vital partner britain which is also part of the five eyes agreement also with the United States a lot of intelligence sharing there as well as a very strong Defense Industry what they would actually be linked to economic interests into this stoltz process of finding a transition agreement come twenty nine hundred when britain does leave the European Union for sure now she pretty much ducked the question she said that one should be pragmatic i mean the word pragmatic and practical was mentioned all throughout that speech on several occasions so were not quite clear whether there will be a link there was a hint that. When she mentioned the British Defense industry and this is the one key point where many continuing e. U. Partners still dont see eye to eye and we heard this commitment to tesco the new Defense Corporation in the European Union while many open questions of the major Sticking Points are always what kind of core. Ration that is amongst those very individual Defense Industries and you will get which share of the defense spending pot really so in the end it does come down to money and that she wouldnt really give any specifics and i think that was at least a hint that that going into those negotiations of what will happen after bricks and before there is a Long Term Agreement that socalled transition period how much that is linked to the nuts and bolts of the security commitment and the practical cooperation of person in the future ok mckayla many thanks for now we will of course be coming back to you throughout the morning. As we can see behind you the Munich Security Conference. Enjoying that coffee break so were going to go now to the other top story that were following for you german turkish journalist and hes huge shell has been released after spending a year in a turkish prison at the same time however six turkish journalists and newspaper employees were jailed for life for their alleged involvement in a failed coup attempt back in twenty sixteen now german politicians have been reacting with relief at the news but does still face charges of spreading terrorist propaganda in turkey for the time being though hes free and back in germany. Touching down at butlins tago at poet dennis your child was once again on safe ground freedom at last after one long year and prison the german tuchis journalist spoke his first public whats in a video posted on twitter last night. I think everyone who supported me all here three hundred sixty seven days if i remember correctly my lawyers my people my friends from the pretenders campaign my family the German Government for its efforts and of course most of all my beloved elect. And it was his wife who was the first to embrace him outside the prison walls. You child was held in istanbuls high security syllabary jail with months in solitary confinement. The correspondent for devotes newspaper was detained a year ago on allegations of spreading terrorist propaganda. Until yesterday no formal charges have been brought against him nothing to explain why he was kept under pretrial detention for more than a year of course. Hes not independent at all now prosecutors are seeking up to eighteen Years Imprisonment for you child but they opted to free him ahead of a trial german diplomats escorted him from jail german chancellor Angela Merkel had pressed for your childs release. Pay for him and his wife all this in the system we know that there are also other cases of people perhaps less well known who remain in prison in turkey and we hope that that Legal Proceedings will also be resolved quickly. As you chose release was announced a court in the same building sentence six other journalists to life in prison without parole. Among them the prominent brother has mehmet and a comet out on but its accused of being involved in takis failed two thousand and sixteen coup attempt. So lots to talk about on this story in the studio with me you know one of our Political Correspondents we also have. Correspondent with us some you know yesterdays release of the news you chel something of a surprise just some remind us how events unfolded yesterday well they unfolded really quickly and even though we knew something is going to happen in this to you jills case soon events yesterday really came as a surprise for many of us basically everything started with a tweet by mr huge as lawyer in the early afternoon here in turkey saying his client finally got his release notification so we saw that and then we rushed to solidify the prison at the outskirts of istanbul were mr usual was being held because we were hoping to see him to speak to him like many other turkish and International Journalists in the end he was taken out of that jail in a car pretty much unnoticed so we were wondering whats going on whats going to happen next so a lot of confusion despite of course the relieve on alice side as fellow journalists by the end of the days a man who spend one year in a turkish jail without official charges got his freedom back within just a few hours he left turkey in a German Government plane in the evening so hes back in germany now overall a really crazy day but im sure a very happy one for him his family and this friends and you know this coming of course after an entire year in prison without any charges being published against him the turkish state prosecutor now has presented an indictment tell us more about the the detail of those charges and what it tells us perhaps about his Justice System at the moment. Well in the twitter we do you know that you already mentioned in your report to mr usual himself was saying that he still doesnt know why he was arrested in the first place and that he things need to his arrest nor his release have any thing to do with the rule of law and thats been echoed here by many people they say yesterdays events were the final proof if you still needed one that turkeys Justice System is not independent and this just following a political agenda ive read through the indictment it didnt take me long because the indictment is just three pages long again we have the accusation of him spreading terrorist propaganda and inciting hatred they are referring to his journalistic articles and interviews and state prosecution is asking for eighteen years jail time and offered this indictment has been sent to court the court accepted it and then surprisingly decided to release him on bail as i said everything happened within just a few hours julian many thanks for now but to stay with us i just want to shift the focus now to whats happening in germany. With this song that one of our Political Correspondents the German Government you know of course campaigning very vigorously to them to get you jail released turkey for many months on impressed by by that. Can you tell us what has been going on behind the scenes and the key question of course has there been a deal between the German Government and the turkish government on this thats the big question that lots of the critics have been asking and that is the question that the German Government has dismissed. Pretty straightforward from the very beginning from the very first minute when they announced that his release was imminent they said and by the way there was no does he deal just in case you were wondering how stress this current foreign minister stressed on several occasions since the announcement yesterday and of course yes as you mentioned dennis tito was probably the most prominent of several cases he had a huge following here although still has a huge following here in berlin among. Fellow journalists like you i was saying and so dennis you joe was always seen as sort of the face of something thats going terribly wrong in turkey as the government said the figurehead riesling figurehead he had become Something Like a sin synonym almost for people who are in jail without charges and illegally so yes we have since heard of secret meetings between my god and the president of turkey so foreign minister of germany nice thing to take as president that is quite something the German Government did that ill be quite hot yes ok i mean its interesting you mention those meetings because a very prominent turkish journalist who lives in germany now hes an exe exile the former editor of jim. Hes been saying the following. The president youve just been mentioning richard time bet on now knows that its possible to negotiate overture unless this is a quote from china. Received something in return we just know yet. I realize theres not much one can say about this but you know one of the indications that we have that there may have been some form of deal. I would be a bit hesitant whether there was a deal in this case that. Have been announcements by people who usually criticize does he deals who say in this case probably it wasnt even necessary anymore because turkey just felt that they had taken it a bit too far that pressure was just too high and that this case at the end of the day was not important enough nevertheless having thought that that have been. The has been have been lots of voices saying that of course global diplomacy cant be done without without deals behind closed doors and so. For example if you take jim as dimia one of the greens here. Himself has said that the German Government does need to put more pressure on on that sack his government and also maybe threaten to. Do something in terms of investments and maybe pull pull out a bit of tacky and that is the language that the texas president understands ok well no doubt well be reading about this in a few years time perhaps and now one of our Political Correspondents many thanks and also thank you to. Stamboul. Moving on to the u. S. Now where a grand jury has indicted thirteen russian nationals and three Russian Companies for alleged meddling in the twenty sixteen president ial election Deputy Attorney general road rosenstein announcing the charges the Justice Department said the defendants conducted quote Information Warfare with the goal of sowing discord in the u. S. Political system the charges include conspiracy for war to Identity Theft the indictment was brought by the office of special Counsel Robert Mueller which is proving ties between trumps president ial campaign and russia. Now President Trump unself says the indictment proves his campaign did not collude with moscow to tip the election on twitter he wrote this russia started the anti us campaign in twenty fourteen long before i announced that i would run for president the results of the election were not impacted the Trump Campaign did nothing wrong no collusion well for more were going to bring in our correspondent in moscow emily sure when emily dozens of pages in this indictment detailing this russian operation to influence the u. S. Election what is the reaction in moscow. Well moscow has always denied meddling in the us elections and they continue to deny it in fact some of the reactions have even been a little bit mocking for example the spokesperson of the Foreign Ministry here monday as a hot of a took to facebook to call the accusations absurd she pointed out that apparently thirteen people took on a huge budget as she says of the whole u. S. Secret services and she even said actually thirteen is an unlucky number and said perhaps the u. S. Had chosen thirteen people for that very reason and the head of the Duma Committee on International Affairs here. Slutsky said that these accusations are part of an anti Russian Campaign a western anti Russian Campaign that very much fits in with the narrative going on here in russia overall where western sanctions these accusations of meddling and even the whole doping scandal are seen as some sort of russophobia campaign against russia. At least one of the russians indite to do so man well known to. Someone whos very close to president Vladimir Putin could the kremlin take any form of retaliate reaction. Well we dont know yet and there hasnt been any indication of that yet but it wouldnt be unusual to have a sort of tit for tat reaction against these accusations that has after all happened before for example the u. S. Recently accused recently said that russia today the state sponsored International Broadcaster here has to register as a Foreign Agent and russia responded with well with what they called symmetrical measures they amended this media law here saying that any media outlet that is registered abroad or funded from abroad would have to ten chile register as a Foreign Agent and some u. S. Funded Media Outlets here in russia have actually had to register as Foreign Agents following that so we dont know in this case what the reaction could be what the retaliatory action could be but it wouldnt be unusual for that to happen. Allegations but its still true what could be russias strategy. Well even if they are true i think it seems like russia will just continue to deny these accusations and it also seems likely that they might turn the table on these reactions ahead of their own president ial elections after all russian accusations of u. S. Meddling in their elections and in their internal affairs have already happened for example when opposition politician alex enough viney last year was barred from running in the president ial elections the u. S. State department expressed their concern over that and says self says that those the charges against him which hindered him from running according to official the official reason that reason are actually trumped up and the Foreign Ministry reacted to that and said that this is election meddling so theyve already started accusing the us of meddling in their own elections and that of course is that is a convenient strategy ahead of the elections to have some kind of an external enemy to show that russet russia is really under siege so we may see more accusations of the kind of variation the new variation their. Tactics only show in moscow and he thanks for that. No it is day three of Berlins International Film Festival the belly the nineteen films going head to head. In competition for the coveted golden bear last night it was a new film starring Robert Pattinson that tongues wagging be your name in that film damsel its a new take on an old classic western correspondent trauma chills and bill has been check it out for us. Wherever robot pattinson goes so did his army of admirers hundreds of screaming fans braved the cold to get a glimpse of the hollywood heartthrob and his costar may have a she coughs botched this waiver section wasnt echoed by the critics at the Opening Press conference this applause was the most they could muster. Pattinson plays a hapless cowboy who with the help of his miniature pony butterscotch and box on a mission to find the woman he loves with a heavy dose of slapstick damsel up pens cliches of a classic western at every turn. Never more so than with the she coughs because feisty female lead prompting some to credit the film as a feminist westen an accolade that ties in neatly with the topic that everyones talking about hash tag meeting sort of sort of thing i think is part of like a growing kind of consciousness of changing the way that women are seen the more you see kind of empowered or female characters that have a really strong voice and or know who they are or who are challenging the expectations that are you know deeply ingrained in culture. The better it is. The coffs this character is far from a damsel in distress bhansali not stepped a missed opportunity in a climate crying out for complex female leads selling a gun toting independent woman as a novelty in a weston already seems pretty outdated but in the context of the me two movements this two dimensional look at the minutes and feels even more jarring so if you are looking for a relevant and challenging take on gender you are bound to leave feeling disappointed turn a blind eye to this and you will find things to like and with pattinson seen as never before is guaranteed to draw the crowds. Ok were going to go back to munich now to the munich security correspond conference one of our correspondents than i can the. Following events for us on the ground. We talked earlier about to resume a speech the british Prime Minister what we didnt manage to cover was the speech made by the German Foreign minister gabriele perhaps you could just. Tell us what the main emphasis of his words were. Well he was really boiling the whole security context down to the historical question as he put his he basically said that the west was at a crossroads where it only arrives every couple of hundred years and he drew parallels to chinas decision a couple of hundred years ago to withdraw from british shaping the global mob allowing other nations other countries with europe and the west to then dominate the world and he says that the west now had the choice to give up on its own values and to simply observe in new ways in aids or to have the courage to really defend their own values so theres a nod to the exact words but thats pretty much the gist of his speech so it was very interesting that he map this out we heard yesterday from germanys defense minister it was enough on the line to spent her entire speech not talking about china just wants now germanys acting foreign minister who is almost certain not to continue in that office used this opportunity to really showcase his vision of the world and also what europe should be doing but without really going into concrete mechanisms. Of the since youre talking about what europe should we do and were going to cross now to whats happening in the plenary because. The president of the European Commission is speaking so lets loose. And to what hes saying welcome you very warmly here i see so many friends in this room it is so that i would rather not like to begin to enumerate all of those friends some of you might be surprised that i help you and consider you to be my friends but i am very pleased to be here and i wanted to talk about europe about European Defense and Foreign Policy i wanted to talk about initiatives that we launched and that we wanted to launch and i would like to report to you now that. The fact of the matter is that the European Union and its predecessors the European Economic community. Were not geared towards politics in the field but if you in the world you should be for a long time were not prepared for the World Politics and the circumstances require that we need to look into becoming active in International Politics and that brings particularly true for defense over the past few years we have made more progress in that in the twenty years before that. We have undertaken in countless efforts and good morning mr Prime Minister by the way to go in minutes and so to in the last during the last two decades there have been many efforts geared towards that but there had not been any considerable progress but now there is progress and these advances are necessary and the numbers speak for themselves. Only a few europeans are aware of the fact that in europe we have about one hundred and seventy thousand types of weapons because. Our american friends only have thirty we have twenty air craft types in europe in the u. S. Its only six of the problem we have. Seventeen texts in europe in the us only one model of take thats being used in europe there are a helicopter many factures then we have governments that could potentially buy all of those helicopters. And i could continue this list. And therefore i think it is necessary for European Defense policy and especially for procurement to be more efficient. With our American Partners. Spend twice the amount of what the European Union defense efforts. Of spent on defense and still the europeans. Are. Much more efficient than their American Partners so we need to simplify our procurement system and improve it we have already made proposals in that regard to i am determined to implement those proposals im told now when it comes to research we have invested nineteen Million Euros for twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen thats funds we allocated for this time period and this amount is much higher than what weve spent before by twenty twenty we want to spend ninety five million and have friends ninety million years and then one point five billion euros per year so that we get an efficient increase in our budgets and the Member States also need to get involved eighty percent of the military Research Spending is happening at purely National Level and ninety percent of our investment in equipment happens at National Level and we have to increase our efficiency across borders and make our procurement system in the European Unions much more effective. Its not that a surprise that ive read that people on the other side of the atlantic think that the e. U. Would become too independent when it comes to defense matters and. Security policy yes we do want to immense a better self but we do not do that against nato against the United States of america i still think that nato is a project that. We need to stick also in the interest of stick to us in the interest of future generations over many years we have been accused by the americans that we wouldnt be doing enough for our own defense but now we do make efforts we do do more and now they are not happy with it either either one thing was right and the other ones correct and the wrong and the other one is wrong or the other ones correct well we do more because we have to do more but we cannot rely on allies alone we have to do something ourselves in order to protect our security interests and we want to do that but that does not take place in an effort against majors the european treaty sets out there. Nato and the e. U. Need to be complementary and they will continue to be that complimentary. The food but if we want to be able to act in International Politics we need to simplify our Decision Making processes and we need to standardize them and if things can stay as they are even the fed many Foreign Ministers see that they see it that way as for example my for from a foreign minister mr azerbaijan who might well come as well we cant have it that we always need unanimous. Security and Foreign Policy this need for unanimity. Stops us from being able to interact in International Politics time and again we see that we are not able to come to a unanimous decision the European Union. Does not come to the unified position when it comes to the issues in the South China Sea when it comes to human rights in the People Democratic republic of china when it comes to the eurozone question and this is why we need to make our Decision Making process this much easier we need to be able to work with a qualified majority in the European Union as i said there is this in my speech on the occasion of the state of the union for in the European Parliament and the Commission Also handed in proposals in that regard. And that perhaps does not require an amendment to the treaties but instead you can you can go back to article thirty one of the treaty on the European Union of the lisbon treaty because this treaty says that the European Council can make you know whose decision on the where and in what matters it needs a unanimous decision and thats the development we want to enter into especially when it comes to defense. Missions we will never be able to make a unanimous decision on deploying soldiers. Especially when it comes to germany because germany has a Parliamentary Army with a parliamentary reservation but. We want to be a bit softer in these issues when it comes to Foreign Policy this is why we need the qualified majority however you want principles to still apply the soft power is sometimes not powerful. Enough we need to use more power when it comes to common defense and foreign and Security Policy of the first of all we need to bring our own house in order. For both of them and i do not want to go into too much detail but i would like to leverage on the west balkans for a bit in february on the ends of the early march i will travel the six west balkan countries. Into that. And i am interested i am looking forward to this trip and i think that i was right for once when in two thousand and fourteen i declared in the European Parliament. During the by the men they were still in place until twenty nineteen that there will no be no additional members of the e. U. That will be accessing that lead to a lot of frustration in the western balkans had i said in twenty fourteen that by twenty nine thousand the six western countries will become members of the e. U. I. Wouldnt know what i would have to report on this matter today nothing basically because the western bloc infantrys are not yet able at this point at least to become members of the e. U. But what matters is this the western. Countries need to have maintained European Union press back. Had they been robbed of this view of his perspective towards the e. U. They could overnight. Face conflicts that we have seen in this region in the early ninetys this is a very sensitive very. Delicate region of europe and we need to be aware of the responsibility we bear there and with the accession perspective for these countries we export stability instead of importing instability from the western balkans into the European Union. For most of the prerequisite however is this the western countries need to settle their border conflicts before they become members of the e. U. Loitered are currently. Suffer. When i look at this slovenia croatian border conflict and i believe that the question could have been clarified before slovenia increase. Had entry of the e. U. But instead to him. National court was charged with that but the parties cannot agree on how to settle. This argument or deal with the verdict of this court and thats why i think the conflicts in the balkans need to be solved before these countries enter the European Union. One can see in my friends. That i. Need to thank you now for your willingness to listen to me first so mom thank you thank. The. President of the European Commission addressing the Munich Security Conference and the head of that conference is going to ask him a few questions do you have time for a few questions now. Please resume or hands if you want to ask a question who is the first one to ask a question. Please go ahead. Sometimes it takes a while back there i see somebody raising their hand could be me be hand down to make to the person and back introduce yourself. As if you want to ask a question thank you very much this is frank wisner i know your face frank thank you wolf of. I listen very carefully to your excellent remarks on the crisis or the emerging difficulties europe faces in the western balkans ive also read very carefully the commissions report on february seventh in which the commission lays out a very strong strategy to deal with the problems in the region. My question to you sir is as follows dont the prospects of success of an easy use strategy in the balkans improve measurably if you conduct that policy in close coordination between the e. U. And nato and between the e. U. In the United States if there is one lesson that i take away from the crisis of the breakup of the former yugoslavia if it is just one hand working the balkans proves to be an intractable object. But. I do think that we have good reasons to. Organize our illusions we have the western balkan countries to get the we need to and took of the United States of america i know how difficult these relations with the ninetys. Theyve been as an of those but i do think that its a Company Responsible to the to act to get it but the decision if when it was phonebook members. This could join the new isnt exclusive you. Im looking you are a. Microphone so we are watching a question and answer session at the moment with chancellor hume cause of Harvard University of the European Commission the Call Center Stage of your plan to bring us to here in just about twice the question with lots of very productive from constructive proposals on Security Cooperation between the European Union and britain. My question to you is the standard linkage between that and all the other conditions that you yourself and the European Union formulated for britain to take part in some. In the Economic Union earth or in the economic market. Thus that change the situation with regard to your conditions of the future relationship between. Britain and europe. With your vision. Because then you see president jiang. Gabriele this morning in his speech. Highlighted that according to this opinion the e. U. Should not only react not usually to the chinese attempts one wrote to conduct the one belt one vote project in order to create a new china centric world order but instead be proactive and create connectivity and links and export that the young. Eastern europe into central asia. And that would in a should include european funds and should be supported by them do you share that opinion and how could we make that happen. Well first of all that is my opinion too. We cannot. Promise you will be given to be subject to chinese plans and. Ideas and therefore we need to use money and be able to use money of the european budget for that but making a quick giving a quantitative answer to your questions is very would be too early because we are currently in a process of finding and longer response to that also when it comes to our e. U. Budget and when we come back to that term being able to act in International Politics if we want to do that we also need to embark on a path here and that matter but we need to be caution as we must not underestimate what the chinese are doing. We see that europe is. A continent that is open for china and at the same time we see too that china has an economy. In its own country that is not that open why is that the case. Well the commission suggested to review chinese investments in europe whether they contain a threat potential. Or this is a process of approaching each other that has been going on for the last decade regarding the question of Security Policy and Security Policy commonalities between the e. U. And u. K. I would like to say that i believe since we are not at war with the u. K. And since we do not want to take revenge on the u. K. For what the british proposal has decided so this Security Alliance the security bridge between the u. K. And the e. U. Will be maintained we still need it however you. Not mixed up this question with other questions that are important in the context with our execu have to look at them individually and you have to answer a question of a question matter by matter but i do not want to mix up Security Policy considerations with other situations as i understand why some people want to do that but we do not want to make some several issues thank you very much we have time for two more questions that we also combine with each other you have what has a question. And then once you as if you want. I am happy to see you mr young yesterday we had a very interesting side of and dealing with security and environment and Climate Change and Climate Crisis and in this panel it was that was the first time that a pen like that was held in at this conference my question is the reality is that twenty six Million People have lost everything their home due for example due to Climate Change and what role could and should europe play in that and could do European Union play in that as a role model and trailblazer in order to really implement the pairs agreement enough to just merely sign it which some governments have done. And what can we do to implement the Sustainable Development goals in order to. Reach something positive for the development of our planet and often sousa fume. The president you quite rightly so highlighted the positive developments in the defense capabilities of europe theres progress that we made in the last years and also you mentioned the cooperation with nato and i would like to make a distinction between the french german proposal. Headquarters and the command structure and i hear concerns from the u. S. Regarding the build up of such a command structure i have to say however that we have gained our own experience we had an mission we had e. U. Atalanta mission fighting pirate percy and we coordinated closely with nato and we consciously made it easy mission and if you make new mission you also need a good command structure for that and this is why this is not good against nato but its enhancing the defense capabilities off europe in cooperation with nato and that is why i think we need to highlight that in the entire discussion to agree with me on that one in this analysis and would you reiterate that as well. I have never dared to contradict you fancy most of. Them when it comes to joint command we have to Work Together with nato. And find an appropriate structure that helps our European Missions. I do not want to be left in the dark here or in a gray zone between you and nato somewhere when it comes to that matter i believe so that we need to engage in a direct dialogue with our american friends and partners and that we will be able to achieve that regarding a question or two i would like to say that to me Climate Policy is peace and security is basically peace and Security Policy with different means more people die today from environmental damage carbon caused by humankind as they do in dying from wars and conflicts. Just sitting by idly and watching how climate develops and unfolds and how climate influences that all the problems in the world its morally or not allowed. In the talks with our american friends i learned that the pairs agreement needs to be implemented completely europe is not only an invention for itself we need to stop just looking at our domestic european issues europe is also an offer to the world and since europe isnt this offer to the world the allies will. Also run the risk of becoming falling victim to Climate Change. Thank you very much mr president thank you very much for joining us it was the first time for you as the president of that commission to join us here at the Munich Security Conference i hope that we can develop this into a tradition thank you very much mr president and please give a hand up plus to the present president and while we say goodbye to him i would like to ask the two Prime Ministers who are the next speakers to drive me on stage thank you just listening to a question and answer session with. The president of the European Commission hes. Been calling for greater efficiency in European Defense procurement among other things and also for simplified Decision Making mechanisms when europe the European Union that is comes to decide what its common Foreign Policy is were now waiting for the polish Prime Minister you can see on your screen right now thats material from what ive yet and also the. Chancellor of austria sebastian the new. Issuing of the head of the Munich Security Conference is about to host a discussion with those two leaders lets listen in to the discussion what it. Is. Already a long time participant here in munich im speaking of. Course i think this is the fifth time that you are participating in munich. To your left is the new Prime Minister of poland who is joining us here and we of course for the first time a warm welcome to you sir and i think the arrangement that we agreed was that you would speak to us first whether you speak for me here or whether you. Do addresses from the podium is totally up to you try to be brief please will invite us in quotes to. Make some remarks and they will have a discussion with the audience please. Thank you. Ladies and gentleman the dominant. Political decision is in the us sometimes often take fifteen minutes late after fifteen minutes late its the opposite to what is sometimes perceived as the Decision Making process in the Military Area so i try to be brief us was requested. A couple of seconds before we often think about the. European politics in we describe it in an axis like that german axis or mediterranean axis or Central European i prefer to think about us rather as a circle like in our flak when the stars all over there which isnt particularly peculiarities by but all needing to perform together if if if if we want to be better in our. Defense overall Defense System and Border Protection system Border Protection should should be one of our priorities Going Forward so stronger europe for me means. Better the frances sector but our cooperation in the context of the Defense Sector and better Border Protection in this conference i think eleven years ago the president put a. In made his. Famous speech marking new era in the relationship between russia and europe and actually he. Delivered what he promised. And one year later there was an attack on georgia a couple of years later there was an attack on on ukraine and i think we we should bear this in mind while thinking about. Security in europe because this russian question is no longer see question its a question for the whole of nato and the whole of the European Union so. It is it is hard to discuss about the european Common Security and defense policy when most of the e. U. Countries are not complying with this two percent of obligation or recommendation of expenditures on defense in nato and twenty percent of those on on military improvement military equipment so i think first we have to build in the context of twenty nine nations of building building nato. Path how to get to this two percent person these points so that we do not have those free riders who live on the backs american about pretend not to be. Self sufficient in the context of security well i feel very much for european i would like to that we live under european but this is this is not the case this was not the case for seventy years and this is still not the case today so if we want to. More reliant selfsufficient we really have to cope we really have to cater for our own security much much better in a much better way today seventy seventy five percent of all the military power is actually. Relying on it on the us and the. Equipment. Statistics procedures and. Equipment. Which was which was mentioned by john thought. Twenty minutes ago its actually selfexplanatory we we have so many different. Sorts of different of tanks of aircraft of others parts of equipment that we its very difficult for us to build a common defense policy in europe and. Also one one additional aspect which i would like to bring to your attention is this. Nonmilitary something to its not possible to negotiate something its its we have to fight in the battlefield like in with isis or syria but its but but we have to also be able to help in situ in those countries to bring more. Hope prospects for development in Northern Africa in the middle east so security is also about fighting with poverty fighting with Climate Changes us it was mentioned five minutes ago and with exclusion. All together so what what kind of what kind of response we should have to this should there be on this new environment which some some people call hybrid war for hide. Its hybrid horse so first we should have more of the traditional types of military forces more cooperating with each other so poland supports very much pascoe initiative European Defense fund the permanent structure of cooperation. More steel tanks and not only think tanks because we have we are good in think tanks in europe but maybe we have too little of those traditional forces which are very important these are. Hybrid type war war for like ice is or traditional and like russia. And so were just listening to remarks being made by the polish Prime Minister much more of your scheme were going to defense of that speech now and take you to our chief Political Editor make a look who has a very prominent guest with Nicholas Burns a former u. S. Diplomat now professor at the Harvard Kennedy school of government so. Yes and indeed Transatlantic Relations has been talked about very much today weve heard very much from the european perspective and i suppose let me just start by asking. The head of the e. U. Commission said the e. U. Doesnt seem to be able to get it right first the United States was complaining for decades that europe wasnt doing enough on its own defense now we see tesco being in this yes and this criticism from the u. S. Side so could you enlighten us on that what really does washington have to complain about i think that we need to be patient here we americans it is true that the european governments need to spend more in their defense thats the nature agreement two percent of Gross Domestic Product in most countries including germany well under fifty if the European Union however can convince National Parliaments to raise Defense Budgets for an e. U. Project thats going to translate into direct benefits for nato because the e. U. And. They are symbiotic almost nearly everyone in the e. U. Is either a member or partner of nato so i think we have americans have to applaud efforts by europe by the e. U. To strengthen itself knowing that thats going to help nato as well. Now and of course we have this traditional sound angelman is that nato faces with russia of very difficult situation right now the u. S. Troops actually directly or u. S. Bombardment actually hitting russian nationals that we saw in the syria there so what message do you really take from here is that could there be a potential for more understanding one of my takeaways ive been in munich for two days mentioned today is that theres a lot of concern to me in Eastern Europe about the aggressiveness of russia its what happened in crimea in georgia some years ago but also pressure on the Baltic States and now you have these revelations that the russians conspired thirteen of them indicted yesterday in the United States to fundamentally undermine the American Elections we know that happened in germany we know what happened in france so i think in all the meetings ive been in a great focus how do we contain russian power in the east how do we also prevent the russians from severely subverting our democracies but that no longer what he has to do with military hardware doesnt because we also have executives here from google. Basically talking about that this this is a threat that is ongoing so this is actually a hot conflict but its in the Virtual World well the first threat is a military conflict and that is the Russian Forces in the east taking other peoples terror territory youre exactly right the second question how do we raise our defenses how will you do that here and how how can the french do that how can we do it we have midterm elections Congressional Elections in november of this year and our President Donald Trump is not leaving he continues to deny that russia interfered in a significant way in our election he is hes not hes a very weak president when it comes to europe as well as putin. Europe is also seen as weak in terms of forming its own Foreign Policy interests we heard from the German Foreign minister basically calling for the European Union to offer an alternative to chinas long Time Strategy of calling for whoever will be in the new government hes unlikely to be there to offer an alternative europe wide now in relation to the german chancellor Angela Merkel how important is she seen from the other side of the atlantic as a guarantor for stability here and you know i think im going to america as the most respected world leader in the United States theres great regard for her for her strength for her consistency for her good common sense and we dont know whats going to happen in germany but i think were also feeling here in munich is the absence of a fully constituted German Government germans in a transition germany is in a transition and i think many of us hope that this grand coalition can take come together that merkel will become chancellor of a new government because she is in many ways now the leader of the west its not donald trump merkels the one who stood up for democracy for human rights for the rule of law shes the one who led the sanctions against putin in two thousand and fourteen and so obviously we dont want we should not interfere in german politics but from an American Perspective we value merkels leadership so thank you for that outside perspective theyre also on domestic politics here in germany and with that back to the studio ok mckayla thank you very much talking then to Nicholas Burns former u. S. Diplomat now a professor at the Harvard School of governance we are going to go back then to whats happening at the Munich Security Conference i believe we still have no we now have a change of spica we have been listening to the Prime Minister of poland matusow what have you had ski and to taking over now with his remarks sebastian colts the austrian leader me. Standing participant. And of this meeting im not sure that five years is really a such a long time but from the perspective of a thirty one year old young of the five years are a long period of time human. Rights as someone who grew up in austria and on the other in addition dockyards or even from a very different position different historic position that poland security to me has always been a matter of course its not something you really need to think about you need to discuss because its something you have anyway lets given from god if you will believe but recently of being our perspective even the perspective of my generation has somewhat changed and were going to see in the past decades military threats and terrorism a very vague form on soon on them and what existed but they were so far away in other regions of the world through the good that its your me but now we in the iraq as the Younger Generation have had to realize that security does not go without saying even though would like it to be users of it the crisis in ukraine is still far away from being resolved in the middle east arab spring has turned into winter in africa we can see that migration movements can destabilize iraq year old problems if it has not been solved by the wind and might even escalate in the future you know if we look a little further ahead we can see that centers of power have shifted from looking in the United States. Have an economic power that is stronger than ever before but they are retreating from the world stage china has been filling this vacuum in political terms and in economic terms another thing has changed in the past it often appear that im a big fish small fish but nowadays the impression is that. Must fish eat slow fish every place ive been in but its not just the challenges around does that have increased. When i look at the year i spent as minister for Foreign Affairs and your kin affairs for the women in the my impression is that the challenges within the European Union has grown as well. Sometimes we seem to have taken a wrong turn of in order to secure durable peace leadership in union or long we. Removed the internal borders a long time ago and what we are also getting but without proper protection of external borders these internal borders are in jeopardy as well you know to me it has always been unbelievable but now it has turned into a fact if you stop that whole move in your theory. That we must be the ones to decide who is allowed to enter we must be the ones to protect our external borders that is the only way of ensuring that a europe without internal borders come remain a matter of course in future of in order to secure prosperity in the long run. We as the European Union have created a level Playing Field for everyone we have set up the Single Market for it theyre actually but when you look at. The number of regulations we have today and when we hear that small and Medium Sized Enterprises are often been crushed by this multitude of regulations we must be clear precise berti can only be secured if we create the vi conditions that enable small and Medium Sized Enterprises and when we need to be in a position to use all these benefits. In some areas we have taken a wrong turn as i said and very often my feeling is. That we could be paralyzing ourselves we get caught up in contradiction of this weve created structures that are no longer viable or even its a matter of the least in recent years when i was a minister of European Affairs i have often had the impression that as the European Union was sometimes acting like an old married couple of the west complaining about the east in the north complaining about the self and then weve got those self proclaimed value guard those who consider themselves progressive and they complain about those they consider to be out fashioned. Ive had the impression that in the European Union we can we need to really fully. Repaired the lists of people. To the problems we have contributed to making the what it is today. And then go off a generation who is always better to all benefited from the achievements and im extremely grateful for this when i was eighteen years old or into. I was privileged to know. The minds of the ten new Member States joining the European Union and now forty years later we see that the first country is preparing to leave they will you will be your eyes ill be sure if we as you are one to regain our strength. And we must if you wish to refocus on watch the original idea of the European Union was. Built on it even though the motto was only decided in the year two thousand unity in diversity of the verse its still describes very well what the iraqi original idea of the European Union was of course meant to be. Of we need to make sure that this amount to unity and diversity does not turn into something. Nels into a motto that says harmonized but separate your me moment as the European Union where try to take great pains to synchronize small things but sometimes we have lost our focus on what is truly important you know these are the fundamental questions so i think we really must to return to this original focus to the original idea of the new and only then will we have the all the power we need on the International Stage. If we return to thinking about the big issues. In our country we will be able to regain our strength on the International Stage. And against the freedom of movement in europe open borders in order to preserve all of that we must focus once again on protecting our external borders of the us was a little small so secondly we need to focus on what the e. U. Is really about. The christian and jewish mentality our history of democracy human rights all of that is. Of wanted and important a basis and of course we need also to focus on our international competitiveness. Of america see and focus of i believe we need to focus on stronger cooperation on security and defense matters as well as we as a neutral country of course have a special role to play here with the peace commit about the war now but we have declared our willingness to cooperate in the pesca effort and we want to make our contribution when it comes to defense and Security Policy the motto unity in diversity is also applicable. So. Its not that we call upon not just austria but other mutual states as well. The do. Legal situation must be respected. To go with based on the spin that some believe that if we hear people uniacke become stronger internally. And economically if we secure or does it contribute toward soupy instability that will create the right faces. Requirement for becoming an important play on the International Stage that goes not only for europe but worldwide and its not we are a small country but we are happy to make a contribution thank you very much. You dont get the response or thank you very much chancellor we have ten minutes left for multics your favorite just been listening to comments both from the austrian leader. Mr courts and previously to that the polish leader but heres what ive yet to see with me in the studio song from the German Institute for international and Security Affairs thanks very much for coming to talk for such just want to go back to a speech that we had a little bit earlier from the british Prime Minister to reserve my much of it all European Security to refresh commitment to European Security from mrs may talking about how briggs it will affect European Security a question that many of us are asking ourselves the uncertainty surrounding brags it is that already having an effect on European Security a negative effect well right now i think most of the day to day Security Cooperation is continuing as before and also the u. K. Has actually opted in a number of measures that are still in the pipeline to be implemented so as long as the u. K. Is a member all sort of if they permit to stores are really using the mechanisms and the channels of the Big Questions of course. What comes afterwards what kind of arrangement can be struck and this is a debate that were having already since well over a year and not since mays remarks on actually that new or innovative the question is where where will be the substance of that sort of special and deep arrangement that both sides actually want mase calling for a new treaty between britain and the e. U. Which if i remember rightly she said we should respect both. Legal orders the british legal order and the European Legal order is that feasible well this is as in so many other issue areas always this risk of having the cake and eating it and im i wouldnt be too harsh in saying that there isnt room for some kind of compromise. But obviously as has been said for many many months one big Sticking Point is the role of the court of your court of justice of the European Court of justice which may has in the possibly set is a red red line that would be acceptable. But there is also other kind of more general sort of questions of socalled regulate realignments or between european Data Protection laws and u. K. Data protection arrangements maybe there is some room for compromise to kind of see it say well we mutually except each others arrangements. Thats fine but the question is what happens if there really is a dispute so i think that we do it hasnt been resolved by or by the offer from a so far she talked about in india in dependent dispute resolution mechanism so you know obviously that they will be negotiating on that what i want to ask you as well you talked about having having your cake and eating it too and. Theresa may who of course used to be the home secretary in britain so shes very familiar with all these an area negotiated a british opt out of the european justice and home a fan as a regime if you want and she she talked about three areas. Well she wanted. A lot of cooperation too to be maintained as she talked about diplomatic regular diplomatic consultation coordinated ground Operations Coordination of overseas development policy. There was a question coming from the audience shouldnt you just remain a member well as i said its the same debate in many many policy areas that this kind of tightrope walk between maintaining an independent or newly sovereign stance and wanting to remain at the table and having as much a say as possible is of course difficult i think in the area of foreign and Security Policy is there is more room for such an arrangement because anyhow a lot of these initiatives undertaken are taking place in flexible formats framework nation from a store of the willing and in that sense of course the brits can remain associated in various missions or foreign gauge ones and the french and the british have actually made moves towards that already and that all moves by lateral move so given that the e. U. Is in this area not so legally consolidated as in just in the home affairs this room for maneuver does exist the question is of course what happens over the long term i mean anything that is a rate range now may work for say two five or ten years but all the strategic secession were having is of course also trying to really have a long term view of having a coherent european Foreign Policy and with a valid is possible in this kind of format i have my doubts im happy you mentioned that because thats exactly what i want to ask you about several speeches today as a real the jim from minister of the European Commission president have been talking about. Achieving more cohesion in european Foreign Policy that is an area where theres been so far the the the diktats of union meant unanimity so twenty nine European Union members have to agree on a common farm policy something which is practically impossible gabriele is talking for about quick of Decision Making tools. The European Commission president just talked about moving towards qualified majority voting in this area. Is that do you think thats going to come for instance the Eastern European countries going to accept that not anytime soon and i think a real change which would you know meaning a change in Voting Rights would mean a treaty change and that is i think every european government wants to avoid that for the time being were still in this sort of mode where we want to exit the crisis and keep together what we have rather than sort of taking the next step i mean you incurs fine with this kind of vision but it has lots of vision well hes trying to make his mark in the last year as a Commission President and i think its also perfectly fine to do that but i wouldnt see this as a as a near prospect though the real the real action at the moment is really in the way of trying to use the additional forty of european integration meaning using money and using a more well say integration by the back door to then have a sort of more solid base for political decisions so this kind of flexible tesco format is of course a Political Tool but the more important thing behind it is new money being mobilized the European Union level and with that investment and most of teaching long term planning for how were going to build up our militaries in the future and i think thats thats the way where were going rather than sort of focusing had along on a new kind of majority Voting System but just one last thing i think it would be also wrong to be too pessimistic in what can be achieved in unanimity i mean we still have you and you dont im a sanctions against russia although there are downsides to that and that was an achievement and i think hopefully well see more of that you mentioned essentially soft and hard power so the money that the European Union invests in for in World Affairs should we say about. The the need to build up its military power as well the excuse me the jim from a says it might gabrielle was saying today that the e. U. Cannot be the end the vegetarian in a. Of convoys is that something that europe needs to do to become more hard nosed about well defense. Again its also a long standing debate were having this debate since the one thousand nine hundred and the yugoslav wars and since then there has been a plan to build up the harder edge of. Foreign policy white white why is that a movement well first of all of course its a very sensitive area of National Sovereignty and then theres also economic interests of various national European Defense industries and the outlook of this to g. D. P. Outlook of european states remains still relatively different from the east to say from. The south so it is a very very frustrating process at times but i think it would be. We were as a said we are seeing now a new stage of defense cooperation which may have substantial results in five to ten years and on the other front and here the more flexible Decision Making comes back and meaning common European Missions maybe north africa and other parts of africa that will take place in a more flexible format and i think the french are leading the way there the question is how far will they go but it will certainly happen so we will not in the union of twenty eight have a quick Hard Military intervention in Northern Africa but we will maybe see more countries participating than the two three or four countries that are doing it right now ok so a certain amount of progress to be expected that Gabriella Jim foreign minister also had some fairly pointed remarks about the United States on one hand he was saying you torch is democracy and multilateralism and then he said that is perhaps why any in particular is just a by the current u. S. Administration do you think he obviously appealed for for more u. S. Involvement or at least as a whole to this withdrawal from the world stage or any of those comments likely to make an effect in washington. No i dont think so the discourse is not new again i mean last year the Munich Security Conference was much more under the impression of what is the threat of a year with u. S. Withdrawal this actually hasnt happened so we are seeing continued commitment to nato and to Territorial Defense in europe while at the same time also on the obama there was already a long term strategic shift towards asia the pivot to asia is a discussion we already have since then so i think the speech by gobble has certainly its grounds for you know expressing the warri about maintaining a certain kind of common normative ground but in terms of actual military strategy. Deployment and current engagements. Nothing much actually changed since the last year and i dont think this kind of call will also from the european side at anything to that so i think that the next step will be to demonstrate that this kind of european format for increased defense commitment actually works is complementary to nato and i think all of this is a fairly pragmatic and doable task and whatever else happens with trump i think will only distract from that for the time being ok i just want to tell our viewers were waiting for the remarks of it to a philip the french Prime Minister and while were doing that just a question to you rafael about from this obviously with a new president menem a call what effect is he having on this whole transatlantic security debate well he is seen in many areas as a. Leading figure of hope and so in the area of Transatlantic Relations of course he thinks he is actually quite successful on the one hand trying to stick it up a little bit to the u. S. On issues like Climate Change or in general sort of taking a prominent diplomatic role but at the same time not sort of going all the way for an alienation and actually managing a relative the current productive discussion as far as we can tell from the outside with the u. S. So france as i also mentioned before has been launching or pushing for an idea on top of the kind of defense Investment Corporation to a more flexible format for interventions in the european neighborhood this is primarily or rypien discussion and i think it will be a sensitive discussion to make it so that it doesnt look like its only a vehicle for french interests but if that successful i think france will have a strong sort of additional platform to also go beyond and to the u. S. And say yes we respect nato. And we have other european tools and were doing work which is also useful for you and i think thats really what people are putting their hopes for in the crowd the moment well were going to go back to the Munich Security Conference now but just very very briefly. Are we going to see a multispeed europe within the next five to ten years we are already seeing it i think its going to be a trend that is going to deepen maybe not all the way maybe as for the course just says but this direction will deepen yes ok rafael the song from the German Institute for interNational Security affairs many thanks for that. So we are now going back to our live coverage of the Munich Security Conference currently speaking the. Austrian leader. Mr court so lets listen to what he said took a moment to think about that and then i said. That the hungarian is a dream a means present were not certain but certainly not like this statement but i was one of the few members then who thought this was a problematic statement in the European Union we have a problem at all for centrifugal forces that seem to be growing some people are looking down at others think themselves superior europe youre about to be might be a necessity thats possible but it can only be an interim step i dont think that should be seen as a positive vision. If we want to be successful as a unified European Union that we should participate in the same development do better in the world together sometimes this might be a fossil than others but this is just an interim step its not an objective. Thank you very much unfortunately were running out of time to discuss so before we go to dismiss the Prime Minister that will translate i would like to make a small comment and ill do that in english i want to thank both of you. You agreed to. Discuss with the audience together. I have been making serious efforts last year this year. To make sure that the format of this conference is one of discussion with one another even between. Representatives of countries who have serious issues and i. I do understand that there are cases where leaders hesitated or refuse to sit on a stage together i understand i dont like it but i understand that the arranger and foreign minister and the Saudi Foreign minister dont want to sit on stage here together what i do not understand that this is why i went to really praise the two of you that we had last year and we had this year cases where actually leaders from within the European Union. Categorically refused to sit on stage here in music with other leaders from within the European Union. Or leaders from within nato to sit with other leaders from nato i think that does not convey a good image and perception of our degree of correlation and determination and common will so i want to encourage all of those all those among you who are interested in participating in this discussion and to encouraging the security conference to be a place not only of you know state of the Union Speeches but of serious dialogue and exchange of views with the hope that we will actually make the world a little better at the end of such a week it so thank you the two of you that you were treated so good thank you very much of the a moment frank. The head of the Munich Security Conference for issuing an appealing to the various leaders that he invites to this format to appear on the same stage with each other and engage in dialogue rather than as he was recounting last year one of two european leaders refusing to appear with each other on the same stage now. Is as you can see the stage is being changed were waiting for the comments of the french Prime Minister into our feet lets just. Listen in to. The head of the munich conference in saying presumably introducing it off the beaches there is walking to the stage so let us now listen to the french Prime Minister addressing the Munich Security Conference. You should presume them to miss you. Mr chair ladies and gentlemen before you are going to do them a speech inflation. You know that you love your. New song the french. Maybe. Not really well too bad. You. The best. It was a step closer to believe the same sentiment i cannot say where the world has a more uncertain and secure place than fifty years ago i wasnt here fifty years ago and thats one of the reasons why. But its also because i believe that the world is an insecure and uncertain place by nature by nature this rings true for future the future as well that is always uncertain to us. However i am sure that the threats we face today are different and are new challenges because they have changed and evolved and i know that from experience a was born in one nine hundred seventy the movie is small. And i have lived through the spec librium of tara these what people call the end of history and the hope for a peace dividend. A big political muscle and then a multipolar world came about where new centers of power and new power balance has evolved especially in asia i have been witness to violence through terrorism against and looking against our democracies all across the globe but also here in our own countries in the western world in europe. This is all good stuff. And would like to believe the stocktaking at that but what surprises me today time and again is the increase of imbalances the growing imbalances and lack of equality is the development of symmetric conflicts. Through. The changing forms of states and governments failing states that it is vav the evolving development of regional conflicts needing to migration movements and the blatant ignorance towards the roots. International togetherness these are threats to my generation that also threaten my country that. Are looming above friend friends too and they are not far away from us they are here their presence they are not part of any history book as we have seen in europe many times we already know a lot of threats are many but now we were hit in our hearts in europe in barcelona stockholm for lynn brussels its. Hard to go. Again the five hundred million europeans was hit. And all those were hit by those attacks that our friends of europe produced in may of twenty seventeen the french for held president ial election and in that election they made sure the decision by decision in favor of change and renewal as most are before an openness towards the world. They decided to take on responsibility when it comes to how a nation still with each other and the people also just made it clear position in favor of europe and not for any kind of europe not only for europe you know with a big internal Single Market because it was a decision in favor of a europe that can protect them from the detrimental developments of globalization against it can protect them from threats that i just laid out it was a clear decision that the president and i tried to implement on a day to day basis in france and also outside of the french quarters. Against the backdrop of these imbalances we want to change france to make it stronger we want to make france more credible through this bigo. Right strategies and. Thus we want to address all of the challenges that are scattered all across the globe and this strategy rests on three pillars first of all there is the military pillar falls of these two but theres a little falls of as you may be aware of your friends decided to diversify to spend two percent of g. D. P. By twenty twenty five in defense expenditure that is very important because we do that in an environment of strong limitations to public spending spree dollars but this is a Necessary Evil spencer vote effort that we also try and in the law will use all this we can employ our armed forces that are involved in many. Runs right now and we want to equip them properly with that because he with their lives sometimes in the middle east and decide hold zone but also in friends. In the form of these security operation called up of us no such unit but that is to protect our homeland the second pillar of our strategy is Public Development assistance we want to increase the amount spent spent on that two zero point five five percent by twenty twenty two focusing mostly on africa we do that in the context of a migration crisis that we have to be honest with ourselves europe was not prepared for this is why we implemented International Action plan with germany and italys its in spain. And italy in order to eliminate the root causes of migration where they originate from of course we cooperate with the transit and originating countries in that regard to do it is about changing sharing our knowledge and expertise france can make a direct contribution to the security of europe and its partners in the east because we deployed to combat aircraft. And land forces to the baltic countries countries my first visit brought was to the baltic countries it was an important meaningful just tried to demonstrate our solidarity with those countries and we did that after the annexation of crimea but there you end today this commitment continues in lithuania we participate in. Be forced to gether we provide a battalion together with germany we are also engaged in africa in the middle east. And there we try to fight the threats to European Security i would also particularly like to highlight our commitment in this so i hope zone commitment by. Mauritania malia and molly. Faso cher and chard the threats i mentioned hit us right in our center into our hearts and if i say us i do not refer only to the people of friends and i do not address you today as a frenchman but as a european citizen who was born in france and i also speak to you as a frenchwoman on them and who in. Childhood travel to other countries i used to live in germany for a while to the cities i just mentioned earlier our cities we know very well the germans italians french we all know the cities we travel to the cities we used to live there maybe we maybe have friends and family there we feel at home in those cities all of us so all of europe is basically. Facing selfwill the same time were facing. A wall here for good luck with a back against the wall and at the same time European Defense cannot only be a topic for to the theoretical seminar its a practical necessity to discuss it and this necessity this need needs to be addressed with you by those three demands we need to fulfill three requirements so france and germany. Indeed needs to intervene and a very practical sense because otherwise Germany Europe will remain a topic of theoretical conservations in europe is not to replace the United States or other states but we were able to create. Europe. With and through the states that are members now im not a fan of trotsky but i think he always had a good sense for good phrases and i would like to refer to him if europe is not interested in war the war will start getting interested in europe and the second demand we need to meet is this europe needs to get used to it interdependencies that is not so easy until now it looks like this the world followed europes beat and now we live to the beat of the tensions in the east and asia and the middle east and we also feel the tension instead to come up somewhere else and say well observed there is our tech coolness and called we feel there too or if theres a conflict in the Korean Peninsula we feel that to europe which we cannot. Leave the project of the new silk road to china alone and. Depending on what was applied to this project it could be a project of cooperation or a project of leadership and head or superiority over the possibility europe needs to stick to its values that it at the kids and at the same time we need to react and once these values are under attack you have seen. Again one experience we had to deal with many lives that were claimed we have deep cuts and wounds in on our territory that were. Given to us while we did not defend our values this is why we stand up against fake new skin Cyber Threats and other threats in order to move beyond. That brings me to f third decision the decision for action the European Union has already launched a number of measures that the lisbon treaty allows for. We just havent heard about the axes we heard about means that are not being provided for europe of defense and we want joint strategy which is an industry but indispensable prerequisite for European Defense we want the europe of defense to be created we want to shape it to be able to pretend we should be ambitious together in spite of political chaos that we lived through despite brags that we need to build on the community of our people its on our relations our close ties that tires to the u. K. And to other countries if we want to further drinks and all of those titles that we hope that image of europe of defense we can all benefit from our cooperation with nato as well as strong nato needs a more solid European Defense just as a reasonable response but you also is an added value for nato and i said it in french maybe i should have said it in norwegian but you understood me just right friends once to take on an active role in the Transatlantic Alliance the alliance that has nuclear as well as conventional forces available france stands by the. Allies in the face of those major challenges i want to say that my conviction is this i have a conviction of a european its. A conviction of solidarity based on a long history that was also a tragic history but its still based on these old values. And on the history that also had wonderful aspects its a conviction that its rooted on a world and change and founded on the belief that europe is more than a Strong Community of values but community of feet we want to use this faith this destiny and approach it together and shape it and since were in munich i would like to quote major reno and author and soldier who was a soldier of the french. Legion a foreign legion he passed away twenty years ago you know and i want like to quote him he said in an essay about a piece called for peace he said europe and has an unbelievable force of resilience that it has shown in its history and it has a legacy that is not only a museum of intellectual development and conservation but it shows that it can inspire to keep up to date too and let us be inspired by that really disenchantment think. Those were the remarks of the french Prime Minister talking to you next today conference while he answers a few questions there were going to come back to the song here in the studio with me from the German Institute for interNational Security affairs rafael what are you taking away from that speech from the french Prime Minister well its certainly another claymore french leadership and European Defense Security Affairs trying to be somewhat visionary and the same time putting the emphasis on the actual essential role france already is playing in a lot of theaters and a lot of both military spending and he was referring to the price of blood. I think thats that was one of the key message. Just second sort of message was of course trying to kind of embed this kind of french leadership well acceptable framework to both nato stressing the complementarity but also underlying the french commitment also to the baltics and to the Eastern Front i mean i mentioned earlier this kind of difference that he did outlooks so most of the time to dish in the as is befitting to france he was talking about from africa middle east as to how but he also deliberately i think included thoughts of other than mentioned that way sort of trying to show that france really can be a leader for all of europe in this kind of area and how do you think the Franco German access which is so often driven european progress forward especially within the European Union how do you think that that could develop over the next few months assuming that germany gets a government within the next few months weeks rather well i mean and the coalition Draft Agreement that we have which will be voted upon still i mean germany isnt yet schooling in the direction as france saying he was referring specifically the sort of two percent spend the commitment plus extra spending on Development Aid in germany where we having not made that commitment and while we are also committed to increases in Development Aid so i think as already referred to this beach there is certainly room for more coordination in third countries to address root causes whatever you want to call it of migration there was crisis early crisis prevention maybe also a little bit more of military engagement from germany but i think in this particular area frankly german couple is cannot be the only motor driving this fall with we need also still britain to a certain extent and other countries that have a more need to focus as in the east and from so i think so i would say Migration Development general crisis of prevention for. France and germany are essential but it cannot be better for Everything Else its interesting you mention the two percent. Military spending two percent of national g. D. P. Military spending target that nato has and it off elite the french Prime Minister committing to that in a very different way than what we were hearing from the German Foreign minister is it not gabrial who said yes its a target but whether were going to achieve it he was he was much. Much less clear about that and gabriele in that context also said people are calling on germany to take on more leadership but when it turns to military leadership he said there are he he senses there is there are almost reservations is that an expression of the fact that at least parts of the German Government are still very reticent about taking on leadership on the world stage. Well i think germany has obviously had this discussion for many many years and has come a long way including the greens and the s. P. D. I mean there were the ones who were committing first to Foreign Missions in the balkans so i think if you go to govern right exactly and i think so it would be wrong to point fingers and saying you know there are certain rights and elements and so on having said that though of course its clear that in the current political insulation there are significant. Factors and maybe the s. P. D. Who is more reluctant to say will go all the way to very quick increase for military spending and i think its also a fair argument to say that just throwing money around i mean it has to be absolved it has to be workable and if you look at the german g. D. P. Its really big sums were talking about so it doesnt it may be more realistic also to say we cant just quickly jump up to two percent and we have to see the bigger picture. And maybe a last point i think there is also a good. Reason to be reticent about the effects of military interventions i mean afghanistan hasnt be a striking success there is a lot of instability in all the other areas where there are military engagements so we also have to think hard what exactly can we really achieve but yes the pressure will remain in germany to kind of pull up and going to be more apartment to france as in the past it has been and maybe will edge closer towards that and it was interesting to hear him the french Prime Minister quoting a russian revolutionary leon trotsky saying quoting the sentence that he said many years ago if europe is not interested in war then war will become interested in europe so again an appeal to become more hard nosed more more realistic an appeal to europe that is as far as its role on the International Stage and that appealed to germany as well well and he also cited and so you know which is for german speakers that hes also a very rather controversial rather right wing author and so that was quite interesting the choice of references i think the call for responsibility and the need to look a hard have a maybe hard to look at the insecurities around europe is is well taken and i think needs no convincing also in germany. I think the trick really is how exactly can you can we coordinate different instruments and how which instrument can be realistically stepped up in the near term to make a real impact so say for example now the main crisis in north africa which fuels continued migration flows. We need a full set of instruments here and germany is already heavily engaged and it would be wrong also too soon that there is that one thing just missing but maybe to make you concrete if time comes maybe and we have a question should we have a bigger European Mission in libya to stabilize the country and i think thats a realistic prosper. For next year then yes you could us german Decision Makers are you ready to take the risks associated with that and i think were not quite there yet you know the german Public Opinion we havent discussed that to told. Us on many thanks for the song from the German Institute for international and Security Affairs were going to take you back to munich now to the Munich Security Conference and listen to some of the answers that the french Prime Minister it lawfully giving during the question and answer sessions that we are thinking about that. And now regarding the question of our values. That support you know the basis of europe and that should guide the Defense Sector. I look as though its a question that and france we do not face for the first time this question came up when we discussed the constitution in france and the content of it here appear in constitution as well as all the facts are values that we want to use that we already claim as our values and that that would have deserved being mentioned in the european constitution and the traditional answer is simple nora ephron Prime Minister you will it all is we will always tell you this. We know our common history we know how the european civilization came about we know how crucial diligence have been. In the creation of these values and in the construction of this community of interests. Its an destiny friends one decided to be nice is this date francis not to go back to religious values that of course it respects and how in its policies. And i would also like to say while talking to you that i feel very french right now. Thank you very much because thank you for the. Daily oh did i say i mean president well Prime Minister of course thank you Prime Minister thats president i want to thank you personally i also want to thank you for bringing along a very good size friend deliberation your defense minister spoke yesterday at the opening and i think that was in important signal of a joint franko german resolve in Foreign Policy in defense and in other areas so let me thank you again very very much and as you leave i would like to invite. I mean this of turkey to prepare himself for his speech which is going to be the next item thank you very much so weve just been listening to the remarks of a draw for the the french Prime Minister to the Munich Security Conference and next stop is his counterpart from turkey denali yielded him a man who has been in the public eye here in germany quite a lot of course a song from the German Institute of interNational Security fence with me what are you expecting anything in particular from the turkish Prime Ministers address oh thats a difficult one i mean i think its going to be one of the speeches and theyre after whats very russia which may be sort of expected with somewhat more exotic see the tensions between the u. S. And turkey are well known the ongoing military operation in the north of syria. I mean probably in the speech will be diplomatic but yes its certainly something to watch for and in turkey they are stressing their commitment to nato and they to structured cooperation but domestically in side the country the discourse has been become a lot more critical and western even so but there does seem to be a switch now. What seems to be a clear effort to improve relations with germany i understand that been on the you is now about to address it so well cover that in a second you know the yield of the turkish Prime Minister still chatting to. But he is now about to address the new nick security conference so lets listen to his comments. Did a guest ladies and gentleman. Where they pleased to be here so i dressed about. Matters in the region where id be asked to it. If you dont mind i would go with turkish. Translation will be available it is more common in for me to be to speak up our native language. Well. Many security conference is the historical one i think where. Fifty four. Time. All over there were people are coming and discussing secretary matters but i see. What you. Call the many. Security conference this year i believe as compared to the Previous Year has become even more important. And the reason. Is the following. Since last year. When we look around the world as far as security is concerned and as far as Anti Terrorism is concerned and when it comes to refugees. There have improved or rather has the situation become even more serious just as what we should have a look at. Within the last seven years. Nine hundred eleven kilometers long border line between turkey and syria. Along these borders there is a big civil war now much. Initially at the beginning of my remarks let me count atlee share with you the following. Turkey is not. A factor of this war and we didnt cause this war either. Form of as far as this war is concerned turkey is a country which is directly impacted by the results outcomes of this war and turkey is one of those rare countries in that position you can after this lebanon jordan as well. Martin thing is this is a human tragedy that is being experienced here turkey is the number one country which has to shoulder the worst burden here all. Within the last two years young. Three point five Million People fled their countries to save their lives they had to leave their homes. So these stray and health Million People. Came to turkey we have been hosting them and we have been sharing our livelihood our bread causes or them. And in order for them to be able to hold on to life we are conducting any sorts of sacrifices that is one aspect of the matter. Is that now that to some saying that our own culture and tradition and history would normally require us to do in terms of the kinds of values that we have normally not because some other people want us to do. On the other hand distinguished guests. Looking at the region. Rejoinders there is this incredible struggle in the region. Its a formidable struggle died the whole world is focusing on the struggle the fight there and terrorism there is not only limited to divulge only a few heart. The fight against conduct it right there are there is the coalition there is russia there is turkey there is iran. Which there was and there are more than seventy countries involved we are fighting against a diverse and who are we facing. Five thousand or six thousand or at most perhaps tun thousand people really a shia who are on where do we stand in this fight. In real terms who is actually in real terms conducting this fight it would be useful to have a look at this let me just give you an example. Through the Euphrates Shield operation to go. Other with this operation in the region. Turkey. Has d. Kept as stated and emanated three thousand six hundred members in this area which covers two thousand square kilometers one thousand thirty five thousand syrians went back to that region one hundred sixty thousand children have been able to go back to Schools Health institutions facilities schools have been reopened trade has restarted a police force has been established and there is now some security in. One thousand and thirty five one hundred thirty five thousand out of the three and a half million from turkey run back and when should the us target it but did resupply is with us. When it comes to iraq aspires to fight against die she is concerned only around eight hundred dying Organization Members were decapitated eliminated by turkey directly without being a part of the coalition necessary now. Is that all you need to do this of course not. Let me now share with you some figures if you allow me this is really important. When it comes to. Understanding how dangerous diet is for our region and for europe and now in turkish prisons currently. The number of member detained people is time thousand people and im rounding figures here why four thousand eight hundred foreign fighters. Have been all. Saw far sent back from our borders sweden and let down in irving. Wired youre saying they came from they come from European Countries they come from these countries. And also. Fourth i suspect it to people we stopped numb from entering the country and fifty fifty six thousand three hundred potential. People who we thought could be potentially affiliated stylish we. Issued a ban on them to enter from our borders so what did the survey it and showed that the activities of cash in the region was reduced. Human bombers in turkey and collective massacre activities have been reduced unlimited and at the same time the chances for these people to penetrate and spread into europe has also been reduced but in spite of all these the threat still continues it hasnt and why not let me explain the United States. But they have been cooperating with p y d y p two major in an attempt to eradicate the dive they have been working. As a matter of fact. Some of you in this room do know this and some of your may not as a matter of fact b y d y k g. Is. The branch in syria of a terrorist organization that turkey has been fighting against for quote decades now they are one and the same they are the same terrorist organization in Northern Iraq it is. As a result of turkeys effective fight and struggle those terrorist elements could not hold on through slim down now they have been moving towards the east of the greatest into syria and these people are kurds arabs. To come ons. Easy days. I mean these innocent people these groups of innocent people are being dominated by these terrorists you know now of course were talking about two nato members namely the u. S. And turkey or what are we doing. In fact what were doing in real terms is protecting the borders and later the borders of nato is the southern border sauf turkey as me protect the borders of nato nato thats us. Along with that and other nato member what they are doing is they are cooperating rest a terrorist organization who constitutes a threat against our country on borders. On the pretext of fighting against guys and they have a hard time understanding this when we talk about this with our friends they tell us the following this is an obligation not an option on our part they say currently when it comes to syria and iraq and advise them on the number of dice members there is at a minimum level in danger is or. In the southwest of baghdad in the south of cow cook there is some of the total number of those members is around three thousand now of course they all must be eliminated that to something we agree on but while doing this. We should not be creating a new another new terrorist organization if you want at last think police in syria. And. If you want a future in syria where people are not armed and where. Kurds torkel months years e. D. s all the different ethnic groups in syria nice. All these ethnic groups in syria who have not been involved in Armed Conflict if you want them to coexist then you should look at the process of sochi and a stand out which is about ceasefire and deescalation and later on with the appropriation off a new constitution in geneva one feel. They should all the Coalition Member countries the permanent representatives of the year when russia iran turkey i. E. The main players will take part in a conference in geneva the. Last thing solution must be found within these limits and this is an urgency because today the number of refugees who live outside of syria is more than the total population of syria turkey on the one hand is fighting against diversion and i to same time the other three thursday organizations are also being fought against one of the must be k. K. And why p. D. P. Why does an expansion of the k. K. K. And other terrorist organization is defect a terrorist organization on the fifteenth of july two thousand and sixteen we experienced a coup attempt as a result of that this. Will have been fighting against that a terrorist organization and it has been obviously understood that. This is a serious threat not only for turkey but for other countries of the world as well and today recently that there are active in European Countries do your guests and of course when it comes to solving problems you make its not only about. Eradicating eliminating members of terrorist organization we have to go down to the root causes. Now it was first alqaeda then it became stronger then it became died. What is next what will be the next name we dont know nobody can be. Then. The solution is now of course as far as terrorism is concerned we shouldnt make any difference we should never say its money. And. I really dont have a prejudice such as terrorists always come from muslim countries we should of course continue with the spite against terrorism but at the same time we should focus on the root cause us triggering terrorism the u. N. Should get them out particularly the strong five permanent members of the un must be focusing more on this in an attempt to look into the future off the region to come up with a more participatory Justice System for more democracy in the region a region for more Fair Distribution of resources in the region they must focus more on this of the child for this we must work more together. I understand mr frum recessing gadget that my time is almost up. I think the remaining part of my time will be devoted to questions and answers and i will be able to entertain your questions so all in all more democracy more human rights will. Get. Better framework where agree here divorce to solve local communities more so with these sentiments in mind i hope or by the way one last comment. That turkey ensures the security of europe and how to do that. Now two years ago. On a daily basis and in faberge we had two thousand five hundred refugees coming from the region into europe today this number has gone down below seventy People Per Day what does this. This means that we are keeping repeating is there in the region. Terrorists who penetrate into those people. Cannot know come to europe and so side to be used in europe we want this to be acknowledged and it be shaped it in nato we are effectively working on fulfilling our duties i thank you all for your patience. But no legal duty in the turkish Prime Minister there giving what i think can be described as a hard line speech to the Munich Security Conference questions to may now be quite interesting so were going to listen in to me question and answer session that i. Have. Some unique security of you correctly here in the middle. Yes please. Im going to thank you very much. I already introduced myself before. Parliament. Henslow a member of parliament. You know what. Yeah and if i get i have one question regarding your relations to the u. S. President add a one has threatened. To my slap in the relations do not seem to be the best. Its really you were currently owns thats a Positive Side and maybe you can comment on that how this should be interpreted and what this means for the situation in the north of syria would require. That we proposed to collect two or three questions and we go but. Yes the juggler yes please. Nordlinger. Alexander noir the left part here german party and as far as i know all the Syrian Government did not invite syria to undertake military operations in syria how can you explain the offensive in africa in terms of International Law. A Community Storm i mean good Prime Minister my name is kentucky. The chairman of the committee on European Affairs. We do recognize that. Turkey gives refuge to millions of refugees but there are other things that we cannot accept yesterday the arrest of dennis you jel was ended he was released and we welcome that but we also have to note that there are still more than one hundred fifty journalists sitting in turkish prisons often without being charged without freedom of the media no freedom of speech without freedom of speech no democracy now if turkey is striving to have a relationship with countries that are governed by the rule of law was you would be well advised to give the freedom of speech and media the room that they need to. Questions the first question was about our president. Aspire is our fight against terrorism in syria is concerned he said something along the lines of an ottoman slap this was what the first question was about. Distinguished guests. Imagine a country. For years. Along its borders this country has been exposed to terrorism through its borders and this country has lost forty thousand of its people on the spot. At a time where things were sort of eventually on track in iraq then in syria as we were conducting a fight against died. Really had to face another terrorist organization and its sponsors so what were you supposed to do. There. They were arresting our country there were killing people would be expected or supposed to turn a blind eye to that could repulsively be expected to do that what we mean is the following beat in syria built in iraq if. Any terrorist action. Is conducted against our country we would conduct put a slap is the most fierce slap on the face this is what is meant were not conducting a war against any country there is not a war in syria as we speak in syria its just that there is a fight against terrorism currently and this is not a fight which is conducted by turkey only there are sixty two Coalition Member countries who are conducting this including russia iran and turkey people obviously are part of nato and we are within the coalition of what this and we provide air support to the coalition and that image of nato through our nato bases on base yes we help out with the operational. Unit many of them we know it wouldnt make sense. To move this forward out of track. And if of course like there is a country out there who decides to engage in war of course we retaliate although this would not be something desirable currently whats taking place as i try to get. Terrorism to me and we have already put a bad slap on the face and all. A slap on the face of these terrorist organizations and we have already heard no they have taken their real name and unfortunately as they reappear under a new name. They werent although they had been using their weapons off the u. S. And russia and these weapons have been either drink or wanted or they have been are seen through illegitimate means on these weapons arms are being used against people do you not today back in syria arms of many countries are being sold all over the internet and terrorist organizations are purchasing these weapons what kind of a fight against terrorism is this somebody as you please explain to us. Another question was. Your. Book parallel to the rule of law in turkey is being questioned not just darnell lists being behind bars then is was raised and others should be released etc here we go now to a state of law you just like germany just like the United States of america. No one for all of you has the right of questioning the state all throughout your in another country let me ask the fall of in question there are truly come isnt sixty three. And comic to people behind bars in germany people of turkish origin why are they behind bars honestly there must be some charges against me wont be what i want is to allow these people tried before courts and come up with a final verdict about them so did you that we should fulfill is to leave the judiciary alone. And just how them here their decisions judicial were dicts and if depose a since the us. Legal regulations can be conducted in an attempt to expedite that process and it does the parliaments duty to do that should have the parliament work. Laws and to expedite Legal Proceedings it is only during the year in two thousand and sixteen we experienced a coup attempt on the two hundred fifty people died two thousand one hundred ninety three people were injured severely they lost their arms their legs. Here in the studio and. They did all this with our all jet fighters with our own timers so we thought our own arms they had seized the weapons of the turkish army and that terrorist Organization Today is being protected. The head of this terrorist organization who had given those instructions now unfortunately one or Legal Proceedings have been initiated against him. Now the members of the audience today in this room imagine if the parliament was in your country gets to be bombed imagine in your country as if your Prime Minister or president is tried to be killed ogg would you do or how would you take it of course. Listen. For the security of our country and of our people we take all necessary measures and we will. Strengthen our democracy. And i can start practices of a state of law we will improve them and we want to act with a sense of revenge we will act with a sense of justice in an attempt to find solutions to these problems but the thing is when our friends make interpretations we expect them to be fairer and to empathize with what we have gone through what we have gone through and i mean if any other nation was to experience the same for him decade they wouldnt be able to put their act together again but. He wanted to turkish nation actors as acted as shields against those arms and they put an end to this malicious court and there are some other questions you know ok whole issue of syria and permission of. France i mean those other countries who are currently in syria which are not of god promotion i will tell you that i mean there is no state as we speak and there are sixty two countries in fighting against terrorism nationalists yet are legitimacy that takes us to the year one takes us to article narrative device. For fight against terrorism. And article fifty miles off of your own charter give. And the Un Resolution number one six two four please i mean this is a Security Council resolution not the u. N. Please do open it up and read it clearly states that if a country faces a serious threat it will take necessary measures and in article fifty monitor it says when it comes to combating terrorism the countries has a right to self defense legitimate defense until which time. Nations mobilize a peace force that is there for everything it outrages. Is in compliance with International Law all measure. Isnt compliance with legitimacy is why up yours now you know what were doing actually what were doing is offering on it people who have been dislocated they have placed their homes. Lost all their property their venom have been great and mr reid are clearing that region from this he is terrorist organization in rock yeah i mean. After the region was cleared off one dies. Off you know the National Organization there are. Often charges as it was as we speak that are fighting against us they are in clash against us and. Were not dont know if i think against the take a p y d y p g but also against dives the purpose is to make sure that people there cant possibly move back to their homes thank you. Thank you very much Prime Minister i know that if we had more time there would be dozens of more questions i would like to invite the audience to for a round of applause and thank you very much for your prayers all wrapped up thank you so far and doing the question and answer session the turkish Prime Minister. Thats after he made a hardline speech about turkeys position on its offensive in syria were now waiting for further addresses Sergey Lavrov the Russian Foreign minister is june next and off to him. That is the National Security adviser of President Donald Trump of the u. S. And now presumably about twenty seconds after off warning we. We welcomed a number of. Leaders who. Spoke here this morning at the Munich Security Conference for the first time. It is now my. Pleasure. To work come someone back to this stage spoken here i think practically it each and every single year that ive had the responsibility for guys in this Conference Im speaking about the foreign minister of the Russian Federation. Mr lover of your sergey we are running out of time this morning so im not going to make a long introductory speech im simply offering you the floor please thank you the Russian Foreign minister Sergey Lavrov now about to address the munich security card. Kalid you said it was not on the question it is today when International Relationships are going through a time oil business. And denying a statement about the end of history we need to remember the events of the recent past as the russian historian by sytycd cesky said history punishes those who do not learn the lesson eighty years ago in one thousand nine hundred thirty eight here i mean we adopted a cream and on the separation of czechoslovakia which was a sort of a privilege to the second. And later than youre back process. Of the leaders of the third drake. Tried you claimed that their goal was to push russia out of europe and then again kate mentioned that the munich tragedy it reflected all the pain of a book that has that belief in their exclusives. The strife the mutual suspicions and their bet to create descend into a corner and send buffer zones and meddling into other States Affairs with those memories are even more worrisome if we would compare them with today with their attempts to for you new modern historic truth of the Second World War and the preceding events that temps to rehabilitate the nats is and their allies in certain countries of the e. U. They are in lost because the nazis and their allies and the liberators of europeans will for they demolish the monuments dedicated to those who defeated fascism for the Second World War and building boom of problems on the continent afterwards should have convinced a few because of the lack of alternatives to building in common european home without debating with people into our own enemies the integration a project of the e. U. It goes back to the Founding Fathers wanting to avoid their laps of the confrontational logic which led many times to a catastrophe over the course of many years after the fall of the berlin four after the unification of germany where russia played a decisive role and we wanted to do our best in order to create in the year atlantic the architecture of closures and indivisible security and we have significantly reduced our military capabilities and our western fronts and we work supporting the strengthening of the european institutions such as the o. E. C. D. You if you will in order to. Define the legal structure on European Security unfortunately our course of that is with dialogue the implementation of the security principle in practice because there were a lot of hurdles despite that for whom they were trying to convince us back in the ninetys and this fact was on the board terms. Through the publication of the documents with National Archives of the us nato is expanding to the east there is a military build up observed in the deploying their military infrastructure is the word and they are now active in the European Military theater well europe is implementing the plans to create an intern Missile Defense of the us system which undermines richard stability and growth and they are deliberately carrying out this propaganda which sixteen steal means this confrontation attitude to russia and in many countries in europe to reach for correctness is to either speak of our country a better term so to say nothing at all so when in the west they talk about the growing influence of russia they make so in a negative context this was the case in the report which was prepared for the contras for the last one i would like to remind you when our country was weak and weve been passing through a period of historic challenges weve heard calls coming from everywhere talking about the interest of strong russia and of motion neighbor and not to should we should being set out against our core interests. At the same was true as for the Eastern Partnership the you project and we hope that those motifs would be carried out and they would not turn interests of fabios to consider the situation in europe for is zero sum game mentality is dangerous and we can now see the results. Beleaguered by an internal conflict of ukraine you know because its in the context of preparing its e. U. Accession agreement is now faces a false choice either youre with the west or all with russia to force it and plausibly the e. U. Which was the quran to offer their cremated of deposition and to the government talk of the twenty first of february twenty fourth he was actually in a bowl to implement. It and they were alpha supported the coup detat zero zero one and now the country with a great likelihood potential with the great people of the us the us are unable to manage their own country russia as nobody else wants to resolve the intrigue cranio crisis the Legal Framework is in place those measures developed by germany Russia Ukraine france who would have been as can look ganske and adopted by the United Nations Security Council as we shoot firmly and here to that now the efforts of the consecrate normandy format are sabotaged by viewers and now at the official level theyre talking of a military scenarios i know that in the e. U. They should be aware of the dangers of such actions that attempt was going to use of war to make this country and neighbor off the sounds and the e. U. And russia or the balkans to choose between the west and the east in the german newspapers there was an article about the e. U. Or putin who will get western balkans this is not the singular case of how they try to influence the Public Opinion to turn them into philosophy or our enemy over the border for our all we are misled you and yours is the mechanism with the e. U. Disarm its Partnership Institutions your judgement and the bet too few are put pressure on us as others has not made our continent more secure if the conflict potential is growing and the crisis was seen all over the potential events in the middle east and Northern Africa showing that the western inforced or is to change then wanted rejean and enforced model of development not only lead to a global chasm the region would but actually fire that by the import of freo threats into europe first of all a surge in International Terrorism that sends waves of illegal migration every thing that is connected with a look at the world order for mentioned should be taken into account i just. The genesis of the current relationships between russia and the e. U. Is very much were going to develop until call on the rich are beneficial basis what were seeing has been the goal of our country and what weve exerted after it sort of gives but the task of actually getting a Strategic Partnership good i Firm Partnership which would gather and see us and the mutual raisin ability to compete is not yet implemented and its not our fault but we can see what were the cause of the last decade we have not found the golden middle in terms of dealing with other countries its in the ninetys cooked up with most they believed that russia were a kind of a huge charro was up with who should be according to western standards now theres this irrational mate about this global russian threat and the traces of which i found almost anywhere from backstage to the catalan referendum however both stereotypes are mistaken and they be speak of the lack of common sense and understanding of a country or your future we also underscore that at the e. U. We see the rising number of those who are you at ease due to their normal situation in our relationships and incredible acts periods are now acknowledging that the demonstration of unity on the russian track which costs e. U. Their diplomatic paralysis we have not changed our approaches to a cooperation with the e. U. We would like to see strong new Center Rooted in the core interests of their members they should define how to develop their own economies and their external economic ties to for example how to ensure that their needs a even energy have been met with out of their own decisions all influenced by others as i hope as they would be responsible and i would like to highlight it a taunt to most and then International Affairs have paid. Attention. To walk ons interview to go to news paper way she talks about the need to raise their Foreign Policy profile of the e. U. We believe that theres two of the work hes a dear and its essential for the need to cooperate between russia the e. U. And the e. U. As to create their Security Check attacks in the middle east is very appreciated and they say this is true for the gulf its because you know you would want to have a predictable European Union a strong union which would be a responsible player in the Foreign Policy on the global scale but to put a spoke about supply and we see this formation and now we should not try to paddle against a slow history most brutally when we should make this system of government nation chipsets just with the central role of the United Nations as this draws in trade and instructor we are open to the little ones and if we quote north mutually respectful dialogue based on common interests with the e. U. To find the answers to the global challenges of today the very same principles should be the basis of our relationships with the u. S. And all the other countries who to the principles that we should probably tap into the potential of the cooperation between the e. U. And russia was to create a common space of peace equal and indivisible security and mutually beneficial Economic Cooperation in the Strategic Plan i would like to draw your attention to those as mr putins initiatives about their grand is more sutures the eurasian project where we would just see their cumulation of the efforts in this c. I. S. Corporation is going to say sion with which its a good job which is and i guess that the e. U. Should get in gauged on this or worse are things going on which are starting with establishing professional contacts with the eurasian Economic Union i hope this is not in the far future thank you for your attention thank. You russ. From minister that addressing. Unix security conference another fairly hardline address lavrov for instance talking about how the western model of what he called with forced development leading to the current chaos of the world next now going to listen in to the question and answer session hosted by issue of the Munich Security Conference presumably also some interesting questions to come to a lover of the Russian Foreign minister at locus over that please. Mr foreign minister i just wondered what your reaction is to the indictment store published yesterday the United States that show you just one point two five Million Dollars a month of russian taxpayers money being spent in trying to influence the American Election do you think that was do you see a good return on that investment. You know i have no response you can publish. Anything and we see those indictments multiplying the statements multiplying. And ive also read this statement from montrose i believe that is correct she is that visor to the home that security had. In the us who did night reports that any country has influenced the Election Results and the same was said by mike pence just recently here or maybe another European Capital so until we see the facts Everything Else is just blabber im sorry for this expression. There was a question oh yes yes please. And i dont yes i was. European parliament minister you argued that the European Union put the members of those states of the eastern neighborhood into an alternative either to go with russia or with the e. U. Would you accept if you look at the fact that we have very different degree of. Relations with these six countries as about john and belarus do not want to sign a comprehensive deal with us i mean under your pressure decided to opt for the Customs Union and so we are deciding to have a lower level treaty and the other three actually decided to have four to opt for and comprehensive approach wouldnt you agree that we definitely react to their wishes and that its not that we are imposing anything and after all if somebody doesnt sign a treaty with us we are not sending tanks. Political corporate moods. This is how you come up with this socalled russian threat you started your question with a statement that i have said that partnership is used to separate those countries from russia. I said when it was formed we were being assured that it would be eight against russia and they hoped that those statements would be true it would be implemented that some of the countries you mentioned wanted. The Eastern Partnership to be used like that that so. Before. Asking Stefan Kornelius to ask a question allow me to ask a question myself sergei you referred to and thank you to the text in. The which i made on the u. S. And russia and others. Working together in the middle east what would it take from the Russian Point of view. To. Organize in a more systematic manner a kind of a Regional Security architecture in the region that is be set by so many crises what would it take. But its not just have all took knowledge that all countries in the lead in the region have but there are legitimate interests there iraq egypt undoubtedly will have south syria saudi arabia and other countries of the gulf including iran. In your deeds which are meant not to try to approach those issues soley from the point his view of chip political games or to. West versus russia or the west versus iran which used to students or everybody wants to be together with turkey but want turkey to behave differently probably a more beautiful and of course we cannot approach those issues from an even more dangerous. Crossroads and by crossroads i mean a conflict in the middle east inside the middle east and to try to resolve the issues in the region through heightening the tensions between the sunnis and the shias and i believe that is highly dangerous. The group of people that are mentioned in his interview. So you really presenting the us russia the e. U. China can do those you can of course this is the combination of external actors who can influence all the parties in these or that manner. Talk to one group of protectionists all those talk to you see if theres other groups of protectionist but so should the boards all together and if so what we add to this with the leadership of the arab league to get out of the form. Using a kind of an external mechanism which could influence the situation on the grounds that the and if we see this would be the case if we manage that we can draft some proposals which would be the based on. Their helsinki process. There was a Body Confidence Building Measures this is military transparency there invitations to to attend military exercises and military briefings i guess it wouldnt be all that difficult to start with that but now its important to convinced the end tagon ist that the external actors are not going to support those conflicts could be so much more based on ethnic or religious divisions so were ready to take part in it any time the last question goes to different kornelius of the pseudo jets but their regular foreign minister. In the beginning of his speech you were referring to tendencies in europe you presumably see of sort of nazi revisionist. Sort of of. A ghostly figure from the past could you actually explain what you mean and who you mean. Where you move. What i mean is that allies of nets are criminals who were sentenced by the new and back trial continued to be celebrated in a number of countries including in the e. U. Countries we are aware that in certain countries. In the north of the e. U. There are rallies being held in support of the neo natsios we know that this involves south me and that is being actively used in ukraine for example there was a sofa by tele n. Symbols does match the s. S. Symbols. And when im talking about symbols and emblems all those such marches are very symbolic and i guess that many in europe do remember what it might lead to but this manner is behavior behavior. To try to destroy anything on radical to you criticize. All areas of life and you see them wanting. To deny the right to study in your own language with regards to National Minorities and the ban on the unwanted media. That assaults on Russian Orthodox churches. Those are just the traits for their radical nationalists and they are changed with me and thats a huge so i guess everyone present here do follows how the situation in europe unfolds and they are quite aware of when talking about. Thank you very much its a given and of applause to the Russian Foreign minister thank you thank you. Question and answer sessions who said gay love the Russian Foreign minister. Very much with hard line russian positions on International Affairs that were now waiting for the National Security adviser to President Trump the u. S. Thats good. And. The head of the security company. Introducing him right now to listen to his comments President Trump. Who as he told me earlier this morning who is actually here for the first time and this is why for you particularly the warm welcome sir please take the floor. Thank you thank you and i have been have you ticked but but for october fest not for the not for the security conference. Its wonderful to be with all of you you and your entire team thank you have done a wonderful job organizing this important conference i would also thank chancellor merkel the German Government and the german people for their generous hospitality and gracious welcome for the entire american delegation for me visiting germany feels like coming home. And i know i speak for the entire american delegation when i say that we all wish the senator john mccain a great advocate for this conference could be with us i. I. It is a great honor to be here to Munich Security Conference convenes an unmatched assembly of distinguished leaders and thinkers for over five decades the conference has fostered open dialogue candid debate and lively discussion about how we might build a more peaceful and prosperous future together this year we meet at a critical time for our nations and indeed for all humanity. Critical because we face it a range of common threats rogue regimes that already imperil interNational Security in the middle east and in northeast asia are developing the most destructive weapons on earth revisionist powers are challenging the stability of the Postwar International Order through military force and other person issues forms of aggression and shot as terrorist organizations continue to use the mass murder of innocents as their principal tactic in their evil war against all civilized people although distinct these three threats often intersect as they do for example in syria. To address these threats and improve interNational Security. We must renew our faith in the principles that have made our nation straw increased worldwide prosperity and prevented great power conflict for over seventy years the United States its allies and its partners are proud nations of patriotic people who cherish the ideals of liberty individual rights Free Enterprise equality and the rule of law in our free and open societies artists intellectuals and inventors expand our hearts and live in our imaginations and push us toward new frontiers of science and exploration we should be proud proud of what we have achieved around the world to safeguard our principles defend our security and unleash Human Potential this month we are celebrating that the berlin wall and the barbed wire fences that once divided the german people have now been down longer then they stood i was here in germany when the wall fell our cavalry regiment was patrolling the border near coburg when east german travel restrictions lifted that day we experienced an invasion of an unanticipated kind as joyous east germans brought us flowers and bottles of wine to celebrate reunions with their friends and family and to celebrate their newfound freedom those moments remain among my fondest memories. When freedom triumphed over oppression. Our shared history reminds us of our common principles our Democratic Values and our enduring commitment to peace evolve on kleist founded this conference in one thousand nine hundred sixty three following two horrific world wars in the hopes of preventing future conflict to realize his noble vision we must all share Responsibility International peace and prosperity depends on all nations for this reason President Trump has called for stronger alliances and partnerships based on shared values shared interests shared responsibilities and shared birds today i would like to highlight three Priority Areas that demand our collective efforts first ensuring the nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction and to tearing their use second defeating jihad as terrorist organizations and third strengthening the International Foundations for peace and prosperity. Over the past four years we have commemorated various one hundred Year Anniversary s. Of world war one a war that witnessed the routine use of chemical weapons causing immense human suffering in the wake in the wake of that war nations came together and agreed not to use these horrifying weapons on the battlefield in april of twenty seventeen. When the assad regime again used these heinous weapons against innocents the United States responded we acted to deter future Chemical Attacks and to ensure that the use of these weapons never again became routine public accounts and photos clearly show that assads chemical weapons use is continuing it is time for all nations to hold the Syrian Regime and its sponsors accountable for their actions and supports the efforts of the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons. The nonproliferation regime is under tremendous pressure not only from the use of chemical weapons but also from the development and proliferation of Nuclear Weapons it needs our unequivocal support last year nations gathered here initiated an International Campaign to denuclearize north korea we must pressure the camera getem using all available tools to ensure that this cruel dictatorship cannot threaten the world with the most destructive weapons on earth many of us can be proud of the successes weve had in uniting behind United Nations Security Council resolutions today let us resolve not only to enforce existing sanctions but also to commit to downgrading diplomatic relations cutting off all trade military and commercial ties and expelling socalled guest workers nations that evade full enforcement. And fail to take these steps or are acting irresponsibly now is the time to do more a Nuclear North Korea poses a direct threat to all of us and seriously undermines the nonproliferation regime we know that syria and north korea are not the only rogue states developing using spreading dangerous weapons now is the time to address serious flaws in the iran deal and counter irans destabilizing activities including its development and proliferation of missiles and its support for terrorist proxies and militias that fuel destructive conflicts across across the greater middle east. The Iranian Regime foments this violence with support from commercial entities affiliated with Islamic Revolutionary guards corps or i. R. G. C. I mean including mohan air who lands right here a company that lands right here in Munich Airport as a matter of interNational Security and moral conscience we must stop doing business with ira g. C. Affiliated interests encourage the development of a true commercial sector in iran and pressure the regime to respect the rights of its people the second area that deserves our continued attention is defeating terrorist organizations that threaten our citizens and our way of life in recent months working together we have made enormous strides in preventing terrorist attacks denying terrorist control of their tour of territory in populations. Cutting off their funding and discrediting their wicked ideology over the past year for example we have come together in partnership to create two new centers in saudi arabia dedicated to countering jihad to study ology and disrupting terrorist financing in syria and in iraq our coalition to defeat isis has liberated territory previously held by these terrorists we will continue our efforts to pursue isis fighters secure populations stabilize areas and facilitate the safe return of those who have suffered so much under the grip of this evil organization and enough in afghanistan our heroic afghan partners are working alongside american nato and International Forces to ensure a Better Future for their children if we all Work Together we have an opportunity to act against talabani and Economy Network leaders many of whom live in safety and luxury outside of afghanistan while plotting the murder of innocents to ensure progress in counterterrorism and in nonproliferation we must also focus on this third area that transcends all efforts strengthening the International Foundations for peace and prosperity in this area we have much more to do International Institutions created to foster peace and facilitate cooperation are under threat by nations that subvert and corrupt their intended purpose for example some of the most egregious human rights abusers sit on the United Nations human rights council. And trade organizations like the w t o have been unable to constrain countries that ignore its stated principles and refuse to follow its rules so we must actively cooperate to protect reform and strengthen these institutions so that they honor their original aims and serve the interests of states that value the rule of law and Human Dignity as President Trump noted in his address to the Un General Assembly the success of interNational Organizations also depends on the strength of their independent sovereign members unfortunately respect for sovereignty is under siege around the world some of the most dangerous forms of aggression today fall below the threshold of military action. We cannot allow repressive and revisionist powers to diminish our confidence in our sacred principles to undermine our free market system or to interfere in our democratic processes have you seen in recent days the United States will expose and act against those who use cyberspace social media and other means to advance campaigns of dissent from asian subversion and as. We are already improving our ability to defeat these permissions threats for example in april of last year Nine Countries including the United States established the new york peon center of excellence for countering hybrid threats the center will help free nations defend against Cyber Attacks and political subversion preserving our way of life through common action. Our nations are safer when we cooperate to advance shared goals we are only as strong as our faith in our values our pride in our heritage and our resolve to do our part for peace if we renew our commitment to our noble principles together we can face todays threats and defeat them we can uphold the nonproliferation regime we can defeat you hard as terrorist organizations we can protect our way of life and we can fulfill the visionary dream of this conference is founder then the wake of two devastating world wars our nations might come together to build a future of hope light and promise thank you. Coming from a chum of mosque to the National Security adviser of u. S. President told trump thank you very much and he will be. Answering questions from the audience. I. Hear you make security conference lets listen into those question and a microphone be offered. Thank you so much. My question will be both cybersecurity and according to the data i received from the russian experts. Roxmouth it to be eight percent off. Cyber attacks from outside towards the russian lets say electronic system. Come from the United States of america twenty eight percent while. Two to three percent it takes coming over as the lets say american it twenty fifth them come from russia. Then times less. Would you like to go to acknowledge or deny these they to and my second question would be in any case what do you feel about our repeated proposals to start a Bilateral Dialogue the russian american dialogue on Cyber Security breaches being rejected all the time by the american side thank you. Surprised at the word russian im surprised many russian cyber experts available based on how active most of them have been against in undermining our democracies in the west. So so i would just say that we would love to have a cyber dialogue when russia is sincere about about curtailing its sophisticated form of as what you might call this modern day sort of form of. Enabled enabled by modern technology and i think that they will be coming because were becoming more and more adept at tracing the origins of this espionage and subversion and as you can see with the f. B. I. Indictment the evidence is now really incontrovertibly all and available in the Public Domain whereas in the past it was it was difficult to attribute for a couple of reasons first technically it was difficult but then also you didnt want to divulge your intelligence capabilities but now that this is in the in the in the arena of Law Enforcement investigation its going to be very apparent to everyone but the second reason why i think russia may have may reevaluate. What its been doing is because its just not working you know so whats happened in is in this effort to polarize our societies to support rightist groups i mean even you know even the most extreme forms of fascist groups and then groups on the left in attempt to pit western societies against each other all of all that is done is appeal to those big fringes while uniting all of our polities actually against russia and russian interference and so as you know you might have heard in the United States its pretty difficult to pass Bipartisan Legislation these days for example across our part as it is it is pretty difficult except in one case which is sanctions against russia where the vote was ninety eight to two that that was made possible mainly by russia itself and at russians of themselves in a gauging in this in this campaign of of of political subversion thank you for that but. What i thank you. We have a number of a significant number of questions we have only very limited time if thats ok with you well collect a few questions and then go back to you. I will call on the following whom i think i recognize correctly and nick at leats. For marsha and she believe me. Lady goes last that ok this time and make. General mcmaster we truly appreciate the way you have braced the values on the pending alliance and world order in the last decades can you help us to reconcile these statements that you have made today with some of the core statements of your op ed in the wall street journal last spring which i recall as having said that there is no such thing like a Global Community this just in the arena where states and private sectors compete for their self interest and that displayed a rather poorly transactional approach to alliance statements that have raised a lot of concerns on the side of the atlantic thank you very much. Ok the next one is on the leads from the European Parliament. Civic masterman. From the European Parliament nice to see you not only at the Munich Security Conference involving but also here you mentioned several common threats and shared responsibility we have had this topic with our you president of the Commission Mr younker about Climate Change and climate challenges were looking into it were bringing this up now in the Foreign Policy arena in the European Parliament this conference has touched on that in a session as well if you can elaborate you mentioned three Priority Areas could there be a Priority Areas as well to share responsibility to come to terms of Climate Change as i talked in voting on that on the hill to numerous groups even to the Security Community but also the governor is situations and so theyve seen this is a great necessary but also a great opportunity to work with this reviewer together thank you ok have fun marcia. Because of a journalist but its a moment im see how much mitt its with German Marshall Fund of the United States and washington to do a study on the future of transit and the girl ations i want to ask you about modernization of Nuclear Weapons theres some controversy especially between the United States and germany and when it comes to smack tactical small weapons in the eightys the name gave off my fellowship head which met his chancellorship on the line because he wanted United States modernize. Be on the same level like the soviet union at the time could you explain to us how the situation is today and why you think that modernization of American Nuclear including z tactical weapons is in european interest and why its perceived to the contrary. And the last question goes to that she believes and i apologize to all the others because. General mike baster has an appointment which i think is beginning right now so well have to leave really in a couple of minutes. Thank you. Counter to what was in books when secretary tillerson was in lebanon saying that we should the vocal guys develop. In lebanon as political life i believe in. They need to choose whether to use to participate in political life what is your position on this and are there any concrete steps that the u. S. Is going to do. Iraq and. While they are doing on syrian soil thank you. Back to you. First of all first of all thanks thanks to all of you for those for those questions in terms of in terms of. The u. S. U. S. Relationship with with allies when we talk about iran is of competition were talking about really competition between our free and open societies and closed and repressive societies and i would refer you to the highly readable National Security strategy that the president the president just released at the end of last year and when we speak about arenas of competition what this is really is a shift away from what had been really a hopeful view of geopolitics and that there would be a great power condominium that would help solve some of the biggest problems that we havent and would lead to a a an era of enduring peace and prosperity. I think those dreams were punctured by the invasion of georgia in two thousand and eight you can go back to the you can go back to the dot to Knowledge Service attacks against the stone in two thousand and seven. So what we have seen since then is a pattern of revisionist powers who are advancing what they perceive as their interests at the expense of free and open societies so so the u. S. Commitment to our allies is stronger than ever but i think all of us have to recognize the world as it is and to recognize that if we dont compete if we vacate these arenas we are placing our own populations in jeopardy we are we are emboldening the inclosed and repressive societies who are determined to advance their autocratic regimes interests at our at our expense so i think we do have to compete and the recognition that we have to compete is in no way incompatible with with our desire for stronger alliance. And stronger partnerships a stronger Transatlantic Relationship for example on the second question the president made clear that the United States remains committed to to the climate and the environment to have the cleanest water and the cleanest air on the planet his biggest objection to the paris accord was that it gave the biggest polluters in the world a free ride and so so we remain committed to not only Renewable Energy sources for example but also to clean fossil fuels as a way to reconcile the need to reduce emissions with the need to continue to generate sufficient Economic Growth to build prosperity. Around the world and then in turn on the question on Nuclear Weapons. I recommend to you the Nuclear Posture review i think its very clearly laid out there the development of of lower yield Nuclear Weapons was not designed to lower the threshold for the use of Nuclear Weapons it was designed to raise the threshold and this is in recognition that russia in particular is violating the i. N. F. Treaty and developing a range of weapons which russia itself has said. It will use under this construct of as collate to deescalate so what we will not do we will not allow russia or any other power to hold the populations of europe hostage we believe that this strengthens immeasurably americas extended deterrence and thereby lowers again the chances that we can ever have something would not have us even want to imagine and so i believe that i believe that this shift in our in our Nuclear Posture is important for the reasons stated in that strategy. And i think we have an opportunity now to have a really strong discussion about the consequences of violation of the i and if treaty and the instability thats thats creating out not only in europe but. And then finally on the question on hezbollah hezbollah is a designated terrorist organization and we encourage all nations to designate hezbollah in the whole as a terrorist organization and in terms of irans role i think what you see now is what hezbollah really is what theyve been doing in syria as a proxy of the iranians and what they have been doing in receiving in receiving more and more missile caper and rocket capabilities and improving those capabilities to threaten israel and threaten even further the stability of the whole region and i think its useful for us to to take a step back in the sea water ran is actually doing in the region and what theyre actually doing what iran is actually doing is applying the hezbollah model to the greater middle east and which they they want weak governments in power they want the arab world to be perpetually weak and they have weak governments in power that are dependent on iran for support while they grow terrorist organizations militias other illegal armed groups that are outside of that governments control. That can be turned against that government if that government acts against iranian interests we see that this is the case in syria where there were theyre building a large proxy army with a large cadre of the Islamic Revolutionary guards corps we see this in iraq where they have grown these these p. M. S. Forces and want to keep them there as again a hezbollah like force and weve seen it in yemen and whats particularly concerning is that this network of proxies is becoming more and more capable as as as iran seeds more and more capable weapons more more destructive weapons into these networks so that the time is now we think to act against iran and you know when you look at the biggest investors in iran and when you invest in iran youre investing in the r. G. C. Youre cutting you might as well just cut the Islamic Revolutionary guards corps a check and say please use this to commit more murder across the greater middle east so when we look at the biggest trading partners with that with iran of course we see russia china but we also see japan south korea and germany in the top three and i think its time for all of us to focus our Business Intelligence efforts figure out who we are really doing business with and lets do everything we can to cut off funding to the Islamic Revolutionary guards corps. Thank you thank you very much. As we conclude this morning so those were the final remarks there from a chum of mosque the National Security adviser of the trumpet ministration a mixed bag of messages and i want to discuss some of them with the rough out of the song from the German Institute for international and Security Affairs still with us thanks for staying the coast rafael. There seem to be mixed messages in what each element last was telling us they had which which ones did you find positive which ones did you find less credible credible thats hard to say i mean in the u. S. Contexts we dont know really who speaks for the congress for the president for different factions so the comment on Climate Change is difficult to replace i mean that was certainly that was surprising though wasnt it yeah i mean that was that was certainly a way of selling the Trump Rejection of the paris accord of a very particular light but as the question there from the European Parliament also is that they are other actors in washington and the u. S. As a whole in different states and in that sense im not sure whether the prospects for cooperation times is actually that bad so whether that really represents the thinking of trump that might be more questionable while the talking about Climate Change just a brief aside is the second time its come up in this mornings to the break ins at the Munich Security Conference is Climate Change becoming a security issue well its been discussed to such for quite some time already its maybe not so at the forefront given the range of other threats and concerns were hearing but for a moment of object or it could also look at other global forums the World Economic forum the davos meetings over the last years its been always discussed that. Climate change through a whole sea. Reserve mechanisms can lead to large cities displacement increase conflict general instability and its maybe not the only reason or even the best reasons to combat Climate Change but certainly it is a serious call consideration and the us military certain has also made comparable a strategic assessment lets get back to him at last a speech one of the surprising elements he talked about three priorities that the u. S. Administration is calling for one of them the nonproliferation regime in other words stopping the spread of Nuclear Weapons chemical weapons biological weapons around the world thats a little bit surprising because the u. S. Administration has just published a new Nuclear Posture. Policy document where it says it is going to be modernizing its. Nuclear. And ran its going to be possibly investing in what they call low yield Nuclear Weapons in other words possibly tactical low impact Nuclear Weapons that you know would actually be easier to use so. Whats the message well as general across was saying in his answer the the intention at least official legitimization of that is to counter a new class of weapons mainly supposedly developing russia but also in general to kind of been tame credible defense regime of course the readings of whether that is really the actual result can diverge on the one hand it is not fully proven or shown or might be contested that russia is really working in this direction what weapons are actually stationed whether russia is really pulling out of the i. M. F. Treaty as as mentioned but i mean this is one point of the debate and the other one is of course. The more and this is just the cold war the more you put on the table that we can use do you believe this to be credible. Does the tour and or is it going to be a hair trigger and it can all go terribly wrong as we heard just recently in hawaii with the wrong warnings but i think what is actually interesting if you read between the lines ok he was talking about the i. M. F. Treaty but he was made talking about north korea and then he was talking about iran in a different context so he wasnt explicitly linking the iran nonproliferation debate to thoughts point so i think there is some new also see which also allow a different kind of gauge went from a song we could go on for minutes to hours possibly but we have to leave it that a song from the German Institute for international and Security Affairs and you have been watching the news and special coverage of the Munich Security Conference. Weve been listening to reason may weve been listening to you now the yield there in the turkish Prime Minister thank you very much for being with us. Drowned at the age of six. And her case is far from unique. 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