The minute memories must be kept alive even otherwise theyll be extinguished like the flame of the candle when ive been. Remembering needs pictures words but it has a but if you dont know me but that is why they made them disappear my father of feet is brother and. So many others to wipe out all trace of their struggles as if theyve never existed as if theyve never been here among us to see a clear understanding engine. From one hundred sixty two in one nine hundred ninety six what amala was subjected to the worst repression in latin American History thousands of people were murdered or disappeared in two thousand and twelve a group of citizens who had taken their case to the enter American Court of human rights obtained a judgment against the state of guatemala as part of their compensation the families requested that a documentary be made and financed by the guatemalan government the state failed to comply with the ruling and the point came when the families were no longer willing to wait this is their documentary and some women whom are in the delivery van arrived and thanked them in fifty a thick yes they had planned it all carefully. They blocked off the road and drove a white van into the door to gain access to the apartment. For months and then thumbing through a few climbed up this window great and what i eat them being it has had only water this is the room i showed you when we were by the street a tin roof covered most of the quite yard and this is the door i was talking about. Those people sitting you know they came over the roof jumped down where the pipe is and met the others here you have to here and then some rushed into the rooms where we were. Both the others went straight to my brothers room and kicked in the door. And i think i mean this is that he was begging for money a little that is that what then we heard a shot fired the bullet hit the corner over there. And. Sorry for asking but did you see him being physically abused did you hear him shout all scream. Or you must be hell yes we did because back then there was only a curtain where that door is now you know all been there forever. Someone outside gave an order to bring me out they thought we had weapons and i was supposed to show them where they were buried our mother. Being is a mentally you old family. I went outside and saw my father digging a hole. You know you start on the up im after they thought thats where the weapons were. But i knew nothing about that so i couldnt tell them anything. It will make them giggle slightly. When i was outside i saw a man standing next to the kitchen upstairs hes the one whod sussed out the layout of the house i mean the level me almost fell we collect and. You have to. Know everything some years later a neighbor who lives opposite my mother said that she was on her way to do some shopping that morning and she saw two men grabbed my brother as he was coming out of the house. Theyd been waiting by the door. Usually those people would return later to recreate hartmans hand if they discovered anyone there theyd take them away to go thats why we left the house quickly on the green the quitters where your parents there when they took sagittal oh yes. Yes my mother and father were also there when sergio was abducted. In egypt i mean did your parents try to find him. Since there was i mean thats a difficult subject it was really hard on them i think every mother who has gone through it has reacted in a similar way including my mother. Eventually they get up in the morning and say i dreamt overlander years or i dreamt of sergio or i dreamt that or someone might say i think i saw him in the street and i go through to you but it wasnt him. It wasnt him but thats the only way he was ever mentioned again when. I went and saw the wires the subject was to be. In a spirit then youre going to get us those were the worst years of the civil war which devastated the country the police and the army were fighting against the guerrillas thousands of people were abducted forty five thousand around the whole country forty five thousand and those are just the ones who disappeared another two hundred thousand died the population of guatemala was eight million at the time to me and pointed out to me unity and it was the most brutal repression of a people ever endured in latin america and again i mean. What are you doing as you were here a lot back then i already see me at home i mean yes yes with my family usually with my brother to see whether our brother rubin was amongst the bodies that were brought here marked double x. In other words the nameless i wanted to look at the you saw a lot of people here and look to the lot of bodies a more cohesive you almost often run into other relatives especially in light of that being in a cemetery. Yes its where most of the murder victims were taken the unnecessary now. It will be recognized many of the dead we see and then we also know i want this it was soaked. Painful i came for about six months and then could no longer bear to look at the terrible things they had done to people some of the victims had cuts on their feet cut so finely were probably made with a razor blade of a house or maybe less but is. The salt in lemon had been rubbed into the water. It was horrifying sal. Also flame consumed and the most harrowing thing of all though im able to get it out of my head was a couple because they were said to be engaged. Most of us. Dont if they were students at San Carlos University and she was pregnant at the siac is that im but as seen in babel. I quoted him somebody told us that when they were found the babys head was in its mothers stomach it knew more. Then two of them being. What Solidarity Group of aquarium or two it was founded around them the name means mutual aid we met at the morgue each of us alone to face the atrocities and fear we needed one another in this group we women tried in our own way to do something to see our missing fathers brothers sons and husbands again but if you. Didnt think all who knew the gentle people since the founding of our organization on june the fifth nine hundred eighty four we have been calling on the transitional military government to provide information on the whereabouts of hundreds and hundreds of guatemalan citizens. Which of those qualities many of whom were undoubtedly abducted under the regime of gen me if ya victorias me here we. Dont know what we have experienced and attempted since then defies. Description the reaction from government spokespersons to questions regarding all those who have disappeared is disrespectful and deplorable we cannot accept their contemptuous and completely improbable responses. Afy mantillas they somebody feel they claim that the missing have left the country or joined the girl years. Ago how could they know that what proof do they have. Will be all they want to. Know beneath the people of guatemala we cannot allow these insidious crimes to go unpunished. That they will him via appia we urgently call upon you to join our fight for the Immediate Release of abducted guatemalan citizens and for an end to the killing and all forms of violence that violate Human Dignity in the land is more than one time and so on by the two hundred twenty five families which constitute up or you move to so that our sons husbands fathers and brothers might be returned to as a life. The objections continued indiscriminately the army took away and killed anyone they suspected of thinking differently irrespective of whether they were guerilla or not here day after day more and more people came to help were much well and asked for help in their search for relatives who had disappeared. And we first came here ten years ago this was a horrible place dirt floor pitch black. We put the lights in and the individual rooms were shocking. And they were small and had no lights or windows. And the doors were just grills. Not industrial grills but homemade one of. Anyone see how it goes where the grill is show that Political Prisoners were kept here but what is also shocking is that over the last ten years we have found no indication whatsoever of someone having survived captivity here in like ive not a single person. So the more this we learned later that there were a lot of these secret prisons in which the police and army had people disappear but when we questioned them they denied it. They look at bethel we know very little about what happened in these places and. When this and this when de santis all was held at this Police Station which still exists today i mean. That would be my last thing with. The last time i saw her was on march the eighth one thousand nine hundred. Full International Womens day now that im healthy one though thats all doused when a group of soldiers burst into our apartment and forced my brother and me to watch as they talked shit. Out of put out i am less like i dont know. They pulled out her fingernails one by one with ply as. If we was only gals have it and we had to watch. It as unless we did not acquire the scale thing with those of my last memories of when they seized my mother they also arrested my brother and me and took us to the National Police department on the avenue. And then the torture continued we was subjected to electric shocks them being conned into lessons in the. Sinners haply we had to watch as our mother was also tortured in the same way we mostly house her lack. Of money madeleine as the enemy the last word she was able to say to his work be strong be strong with them where this sampling. Of your mature became increasingly important journalists abroad began to take an interest in us and our struggle in the cause of those who had disappeared but if you can in the end even general may have it taught us what amount of military dictator had to receive us as iraq is represented in the barbaric repression on leash by the army and other organizations no one was sorry for the general began to officially accuse a poor motto. Is all written in english and sent from washington by one of these international totalitarian organizations be an Amnesty International or americas watch they are the ones you know the Mutual Support Group what did you do in life they sent their instructions from what you do if yeah i mean even in that way if it is in america i watch way too. Because you know what you know i suppose i wanted to finish it shes been a computer that really was one april the First One Hundred eighty five something happened which we had all feared. To be the leader of a poor moto character gomas calisto was murdered. Little money off of a car his tongue the message was clear. And its a moment of his own that must but the devil we knew then that we were not safe something could happen to us at any time i think it was at the cemetery that rosario took the megaphone and said that she wasnt afraid that she would defy head joyce killers yearly in his office young souls i will say see most came young not about she was truly courageous a real fighter but we were afraid i still remember how we talked to already about it short of the oh god now its our turn what are we going to do you know that last of that a sort of value on a job i sat rushing to think youd be complied as a mother you must have been worried about me me i have visibility and i think openly in one thousand nine hundred five things got steadily worse i wanted to take you to your grandfathers. It was a route i drove every day that particular day on our way there i saw three cars and ten or eleven armed men on the hill leading to less but he says it is certainly they pointed to me got into their cars and came after me that i drove faster and faster i turned left and right and wherever possible i went down narrow streets when i arrived fortunately your grandfather was standing by the gate this is only i shouted at him to open up which the poor chap did immediate that i drove in and right to the back where he kept to see i was so scared that held you tight got out of the car and hid in the bedroom is that in a lot of him if you ask what the deal he. I mean now they are going to kill us i thought and yet i had promised your father that i would look after you just in a moment the place. Where. We seemed not to be a winning we seemed to be losing after all we had already lost. Back then in the week before easter wed still been consoling and encouraging one another then already called me to say that rosario had disappeared but is. Even in stockholm i think the little boy had diarrhea and so she had gone to buy some nappies the child and her brother were in the car with her so much. Is in the water on the this is where the alleged accident happened but there was no accident or what really happened is that they murdered rosario her child and her brother. They tortured the infantry horribly they burnt him and ripped out his fingernails and he was just a two year old little boy absolutely barbaric. And they tortured rosarios brother not to mention rosario herself but they really made them suffer all three of them. So rosarios death was a clear direct message to them. It was a serious blow to the entire Solidarity Group many of us went into hiding i hid in order to protect you but each one of us only wanted to get somewhere safe after rosarios death of who you know more to it was no longer the same we fought on or at least we tried to but not like we had done before but still despite everything we did try me. In the last year is coming actually this is where his bed was all your. Own after it happened i spent a lot of time here i knelt and said the rosary it will give you. All i wanted was for my son to be alive for him not to be tortured when they walk and i had the feeling that the only way i could enjoy it all was by opening my heart to the lord and the virgin mary and never stopped believing not even when they told me my son would not be coming back but until his body is found i said there is still hope surely with the new technology thats available they must be able to find something something that will help me like a sign perhaps or a word hardly a day passes without me asking mr godly when i can i go out into the yard or two or three in the morning and pray to the lord please give me an answer i cant enjoy your silence any longer please look at me i feel im going to cry again but the tears never come give me an answer lord you give others a man so why not me all i want is for my son to have a home to live in a roof over his head a bed where he can rest and a table he can sit and eat that he remembers her own the. Nufenen in a piggy we have to cling to Little Things micrograms you. Because their disappearance is an attempt to obliterate them as though they had never existed as though there had never been people who wanted to change this country i dont believe it really so that it seems like its impossible to change it and its an attempt at obliteration which extends into their private lives and into ours and to those of the survivors and to those of their relatives even to the memories we perhaps still have of them. What were they like how do they live before someone tried to obliterate them. And thats the thing we had a special relationship with our father he was a tall man is he i thought. It was time which was what he or i liked his moustache his beard he was big and had adult complection i got my complexion from him and. When they abducted my father murdered him i was in a state of shock for a whole year. Its like its hard to describe the has always been this hand that youve been able to hold on and suddenly its taken away from you that it was an incredible shock when that hand was taken away jenna and even today i am in need of my fathers advice and i need orientation and i still need things that no one else can give me and if youve. Been soaking me but i believe that my father finds a million ways and moments to be with me he companies me along my path in years to come in or. Out of here tonight and i see that like there was nothing more we can do as if our every attempt to learn something about those who disappeared hit a wall of silence until nine hundred ninety nine that is when the deity or merely tuck the military log book appears. In the log book league guatemalas military secret service recorded information on people who are between nine hundred eighty three and one thousand nine hundred five under general asco home battle many here victorious were arrested in abducted by state officials in iowa in one thousand nine hundred nine a member of the army stole this list from the Army Archives and handed it over to a civilian given that the most important part of the military logbook consists of a record of state activity you see it contains the names of one hundred eighty three persons along with the date and location of their abduction another date indicates the day on which the detainee was moved to. Another secret Service Facility or was released in most cases the follows the code three hundred or say a lowly able poncho poncho took him away that meant death or execution must be apart from our notices the diorio militant is the only document which proves that the abductions with the work of the army in the police force here. To give them a part of the record is also devoted to the aquarium otoh it contains the names of those relatives of the leaders of our group who disappeared resort areas husband my brother your money our failures brother paolos father. Or whatever the purpose of this code is to dehumanize them to deprive them of any form of selfdetermination thats why codes were used in the local it was probably the same for every family in the newspaper published the list of names my mother immediately took me somewhere else the old fear i had returned your book about if you dont was the star known as a video only oh meanwhile in the only question the list was published in the sunday edition of a national newspaper. On the annual. Someone came to our house and said look your husbands name is in the paper. It gets up over millions with newspapers were all tucked away in our house my family just didnt want to know my father was the only one who looked at the list but then it was get rid of it were not going to discuss the matter all the act on the one hand there was pain anguish and tears on the other hand though we were glad that at long last we were learning something about our family members whether we might discover their mortal remains or we even find out they were still alive. Now with the reading of the laureus the whole earth and the world in a service to him alone the good thing in our case was that fathers photograph and his personal details were printed in the news. Paper we relatives finally knew for certain something that wed always known but had never wanted to accept at least not until we saw the body in front of us from. Someone from the military who told my parents i didnt see him myself that when they began to torture him they not all his teeth out with a hammer that is how i know that they tortured him for a long time to try and extract information from him the man said they only stopped when their victims were nothing more than a vestige of a human being the last thing they did was gouge their eyes out. When we read said gios name in the newspaper we knew it was time to abandon all hope since then we only refer to them as devils murderers and swine seemingly very nicely else. Was easy. It is of course painful to look through the logbook its pages demonstrate how much these people who wanted to change the country suffered. But it is also about how relatives in about revealing parts of our history like little and yes its a lot of money yes but there was this thought and at the same time we have first hand proof in the form of a document we can take to a judge and say here is the proof what more do you need. To get the must get. Going to thanks to the d r e a million tonne and we were able to bring the first legal actions but the military denied everything and the judges were still afraid not one person was found guilty but then in two thousand and five an incredibly important discovery was made earlier that there to be in athens the Public Prosecutors Office for human rights decided to have this building investigated i mean the delegation arrived and came down here just like we are doing that when he glanced up at the windows a deliberate as if went. Yes so stacks of documents piled up thousands and thousands of them and when he asked the state employee responsible for them what they were its the Police Archive she said as it actually was up on the scene. Yes instrumental guess what it was a lucky break and an unbelievably important one for so many years we had had no idea this is where the National Police archive was hidden you know what it was a key moment because it marked the start of this story but that is and yet when the peace treaties were signs theyd also denied that an archive even existed in that instance just for leave to get rid of all of it back then when the government was toppled they used this building as a secret prison that best to. Him or saying well in the archives we found more than six thousand documents which relate to what is recorded in the military are. In the theater is there for the lowest bidder i was ill a confirmed the accuracy of the information contained in the log book but i think that the acts of violence carried out by the police are also documented even feeling i was use linked in of in media in this is adjusted and yet when someone was abducted and taken away witnesses would take note of the vehicles number plate with the horse and no doubt only woman. On the same way again was told it was what we have here alleges which list those vehicles that were taken to a workshop for maintenance or repair and those number plates that were noted down also appear in these vehicle lists. And this proves that the vehicle in which someone was abducted belonged to the National Police force so the state police were responsible for something. Big why. Here in every state Police Activity was documented they even took the trouble to include a summary of the respective report in the entry for each individual these entries usually include the name a few dates the document number the designation of the Government Organization involved and a summary of the report us from invitro. Let us regional that was on the basis of these personal records we have drawn up a data bank with one point two million names. Appear to say of the number if we put a population of guatemalan the seventies and eighties at around eight million and assume that hough the people were minus it means that the state Police Registered and monitored more than one quarter of all adults in this country roll over their mother leaving the single simple law so little in my case. That what i book of yes was. Was published in one thousand nine hundred ninety. One ali. Said by two thousand and four enough time had passed for us to say the internal options have been exhausted but most of all is that here but already got this with or lets move up a step to obtain a decision for an investigation at the National Level he was not sure that it was the National Police archive helpful to the investigation in the quest or going for him paul of course in the case of a new tool other persons were also registered which does help to shed light on the abductions in the middle of this about israels war so that you can actually study and a lot of the documents which emerged in the historical archives confirm the validity of the famous military log book in less than that is as you own the promotion of the aerial military meta media yet the twenty six families accepted hellens after we took the keys to the n. P. R. American court of human rights. Anitas the law they were saying is for change in the early one nine hundred eighty s. The Interamerican Commission on human rights stated in its reports on the human rights situation in guatemala that there had been a dramatic increase in violence there along with suppression of trades unions opposition groups students and academics Political Parties cooperatives farmers associations Church Members journalists and indigenous inhabitants. Is from the main to the left for the it is the Security Forces document that confirms their participation in the repression it is a unique source which confirms the actions taken by the state against its own citizens twenty seven years on the abductions as well as many serious violations of human rights in this conflict remain unpunished in addition the report documents how the state of guatemala covered up all action taken against the civilian population when they could bring to conflict their mother there are no comparable over the years when we see people incur seedings in the Area Military case took seven long years then in two thousand and twelve the Court Announced its decision for the First Time Since the end of the civil war and thirty years after the horrible events the guatemalan government was found guilty of several instances of complicity in the disappearance of people and was ordered to pay compensation it was also obligated to document for past very precisely what had taken place. Amongst other things the state had to produce and broadcast a documentary film. That was me get on has idea it seemed to us the best way to prevent people from forgetting. Is first by effective these fields are perhaps the last thing trade unionist among c. O. V. A total who saw when they took him to the military base at kaamelott in effect you could if you by chance we were able to identify his mortal remains here in a secret mass grave your futures and hundreds of graves like this have been found thanks to the many people who are not afraid of threats and repression. And according to the d. R. Your millet tar six other people were executed on the same day as a month zero. Was when we found all of them in this grave in this before. It opens up this is it and if he doesnt see this museum is like a place where weve buried him and can reveal to everyone his story his struggle and his death since the internet is history and input and this exhibition of his bones has indeed had an impact yet for me these are not his bonus they are a months ago himself each of us reacts in our own way to this point of what i would describe as the cycle of pain when you actually find your missing relatives if you look in the photos of those itll be for me personally that is the start of the cycle of pain the beginning of grief. I mean its in this because at that moment you accept everything that has been written and said. Ed and what we ourselves knew about my fathers disappearance you recently by those events since hes going to invest in me doesnt mean until the bones are found deep down inside you still nurture hope but when they appear i think of the fifty seven days of torture that has had the greatest effect on me i think yes they happened those fifty seven days of torture yes he had to suffer the torture mentioned in his statement by all about imus who saw him there he was the one said job well to tone heard screaming under torture. Yes that is he was the one that the audio mini tata says was buried in a former garrison this all becomes so real when you have to identify the remains and it is worst of all for the relatives of someone who disappeared this is something we first had to learn to cope with and even though identifying a relative who was abducted is a terrible experience i believe that everyone should have the right to find their loved ones no matter how agonizing it is. They arrested him together with his girlfriend and they never came back no neither of them. We could still look at so many photographs here. And thats my uncle yes. When i get the most in this is the door to the bunker i think its five meters wide and. Its thirty meters deep and five meters long its simple middleboro. They dont do. It because it was a month if i remember correctly it says in the log book that jose xenon was murdered in zone eleven homes. Thats right. I havent had a chance to look in the file again but i think he was found here this gives us hope that someone else from the log book could also be identified. But consider what it was yes from the geology or military or. Do you think there are people who say no thats not my relative because they are afraid of claiming him. It was like an angel said cal when the noise but for one of them said in the most intensely respond when it was like that with luis collins race he was arrested tortured murdered and buried at lavabit in a cemetery his parents drove here to identify his remains but they were so afraid that they didnt say a thing. They had longed to be able to bury him but out of fear they had to pretend they didnt know who he was it was only years later that they summoned the courage to bring him here from an anonymous grave and give him a proper burial i said god will be gone the style of your mother been here today they can visit him and bring him flowers on his birthday on Public Holidays and on special days like today he. Will spend as he is the same but yes. We cant do that gays who can we visit. Salt also will. No one because we dont know where they are. Just our. Government representatives were only fooling themselves if they thought we wouldnt tact. The name of were not afraid of them and neither is so many other guatemalans the government wanted to intimidate and to seek peace at least the thought. In the new canaan twenty fifteen after six months of demonstrations against corruption former general auto perez molina had to resign as president hes now in prison because i. Know what the memory of someone has to be kept alive otherwise like the for. Time of the candle it dies in memories need pictures with the words but. You. Know it is for this reason that my father ophelia is brother and so many others were made to disappear. Just meters on their fight goes on in a totally different why i mean for them. And they are still here with us or. Or. Good shape i you see me like this. Or are you seeing me like that. Cataracts and Macular Degeneration could be the reason the common only problem is among older people well talk to an expert about the symptoms and treatment options. 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