Criticism is not stopping turkey from pressing on with its offensive against kurds in Northern Syria tonight we look at how the homes are reacting to the campaign and. Its good to have you with us we begin tonight with a cloning breakthrough in china and now the baby monkeys that you see behind me they dont just look alike they are identical researchers created them using the same cloning method that produced dolly the sheep almost twenty years ago but theres a big difference monkeys are primates just like us humans and now the question is being asked are we next. Me chills sean and they might just look like two cute baby mechanics but they also represent a breakthrough that has excited scientists around the wild the monkeys are close the very First Successful clones of a primate using the method to produce dolly researches that the Chinese Academy of sciences presented them to the public this week the purpose of doing call me a monkey and use monkeys experiment animals is really for the human health for the cure in a few meant izzys there are many other animal models who told us you can use mice was widely used but there has been difficulty. In using that as animal model for the human disease because mice are very far away from humans the process took over a year and one hundred twenty seven eggs almost eighty viable embryos and that bevy of host mothers to produce the two babies its hoped the clones could be used to studying diseases like parkinsons and Alzheimers Research is say clones like these could help them glean results that would be more pertinent to humans but this breakthrough also begs another question can we clone humans and should we the burial of cloning primate species is well over. In principle any private including humans can be caught but all purpose of produce of course munk use is purely for human benefit for medical purposes we see no reason love call of humans but despite the assurances it seems the debate around possible human cloning is once again on the agenda. Yeah lots of questions and see if we can get some answers janai here at the big table with me to my right Derek Williams our g. W. Science editor and to his right a familiar face here martin jack our religious affairs and ethics correspondent gentleman good to have you here at the big table let me start with you derek so if we can clone monkeys its a very short step then to cloning you when you with me theoretically yes i mean there are there there might be some differences in the protocol in the long term but actually ive been working for this for the last twenty years this was a very very difficult thing scientifically to overcome since dolly there are just theres some technical aspects to doing this kind of cloning that were very difficult to overcome and now theyve overcome them now theyre within our group of animals so theyre in evolutionary terms these are very closely related animals so you can probably expect that most of what they did in order to obtain these these these clones would also work with humans it might not have to assume the drive that motivated researchers to keep trying and trying until they got it right with the monkeys is going to keep driving them until they get it right with humans yes but we should be careful with what that means i mean this is not necessarily mean that were going to certainly going to have full human full human cloning even if that becomes a technical possibility and this will be part of the ethical discussion as to whether. Cloning parts of human beings for instance for therapeutic reasons cloning a lever or cloning a kidney for somebody that hes having to undergo a lifetime of dialysis for and whether that would be the serval i think that thats a question that we can more or less uncertain the question as to whether you know cloning a full human being is this our off course is one that i think that we would mostly have an intuitive reaction to this are of course i think questions that we as a society or the Global Community will ultimately have to decide and lets talk about you know the immediate Positive Side effects in this stare can mean for for doctors researchers this is good news isnt it. Not for doctors immediately but for medical research certainly is sort of. Being able to limit your study groups of lab animals to two individuals that are genetically identical is going to help them really begin to develop compounds much more quickly than they have been before because genetic variants of within a particular group of animals is one of the big things that you have to overcome if youre doing if youre doing a study into cancer if the mice all have different genomes theyre all going to react differently to your compound you know in slightly different ways but if you have genetically identical animals that you can work with thats going to take out one of those variables that would otherwise and i seem to do this is going to increase the chances in all types of medical therapies cancer but even as martin said if we if someone needs a new liver growing that new liver all of these things now are within the realm of possibility that they are within the realm of possibility and one of the things that we were talking about actually in between shows was was that everybody is interested in growing livers everyones interested in growing kidneys what were not interested in growing is brains and thats really kind of the big fear that lies behind us we dont want a whole new people but we could we would be happy to have a new parts of people and thats really the ethical dilemma that in some ways is facing this entire field of research. But what about alzheimers for example that is a horrible condition for more and more people around the world what would what kind of implications does cloning have then for possible therapies and treatments for it in the future but were not talking about growing a new brain but when were talking about developing new compounds that could possibly fight. What they would probably end up doing is they would medically engineer primates like this monkeys like this to develop alzheimers quickly so they could quickly have study groups of animals that they could then test compounds and that would be one of the one of the ways that it would benefit this particular field which also has of course ethical question so we have a whole lot of ethical question is does and thank you is going to pose the questions hes going to offer answers and hes doing to see that we stay within acceptable ethical parameters here i think that the questions were going to pose them collectively in i would say that theyre being both sort of systematically i mean the Scientific Community and the rest of us that are sitting around sort of thinking of this issues and looking at it you know the answers will probably come from regulating entities and sort of government structures is to be sort of the most immediate the most immediate agents of regulation the question that we continue to have is whether we will be able to produce some sort of global principle for regulating. You know these stop in big off sort of producing an army or producing sort of a large contingent of workers by a process of cloning is something that of course would become theoretically possibility and these are things that would depend presumably on the values of the different communities and the possibility of sort of the International Community to come to terms that would how theyre going to handle these must take notice and expect i thought possible but horrendous but horrendously expensive yeah yeah theres the money factor there as well still lots of questions lots of answers for the future gentlemen thank you very much Dirk Williams martin jacques. Thank you heres some of the other stories now that are making headlines around the world u. S. President donald trump has arrived at the World Economic forum in davos switzerland the white house has indicated that trump will spend the next two days pushing his America First agenda trump is due to address the forum on its closing day tomorrow authorities in france have issued flood alerts across the country after heavy rains in the capital paris authorities shut train stations and rail lines due to the rising river waters and some areas in the suburbs have already been flooded the region has had twice as much rainfall as normal in recent months a top u. N. Official has warned against myanmar as plans to repatriate the nearly seven hundred thousand row hinge refugees who fled to neighboring bangladesh he says its not safe for them to return home and that members of me and mars military are still attacking or hinge of villages but me and marsh says its ready for the returns to begin. In vienna the United Nations has begun fresh efforts to jumpstart peace talks between the Syrian Government and opposition of the two days of talks in vienna come after eight previous rounds in geneva even though a breakthrough seems as far away as ever u. N. Special envoy for syria stuff on demist euro remains optimistic meanwhile in the north of the war torn country another conflict is raging turkeys offensive targeting Kurdish Militia in the region of free most the turks appear to approve of their governments new war but speaking out against that military campaign it carries risks of a correspondent in stamboul filed this report on how operation all of branch is being perceived back home for. More on every channel the military operation in syria is the top story on Turkish Television the tenor of the reporting there e petrino take howard lee critical the majority of to people it seems support operation on a french in this tea house at least no one thinks the offensive is a mistake to do that the terrorists are looking for an opportunity to divide the country but we wont let them shove them of unused just got us is all we have fighting against isis and other terrorist groups those who dont want to help has should at least not stand in our way out of them an angel most of. Those you know what Army Fighting in. And strength of that and i hope that with the help of we will take home a week to resolve it it isnt getting me to my new duty we will win im absolutely sure of it. Turkish politicians agree as well and its not just the ruling a. K. Party that supports the offensive in syria Opposition Leader came out kill it stole says he also backs the operation as does meryl action are the head of the new party that wants to challenge president dredge of tired aragon in the next election she tweeted that shes praying for a Glorious Army the only party to condemn the offensive is the pro kurdish h d p j a former Spokes Person calls it inacceptable. The olive branch has always been a symbol of peace but now it is stained with blood its also in the air to one is extending the olive branch to Bashar Al Assad in syria who once used to be his ally said it was not much but this operation is an attempt to massacre the kurds openness we hope to statements like this one by jimmy lee chile are dangerous right now in the past days the turkish government has detained dozens of people including politicians activists and journalists for criticizing the military operation in syria the official charged terrorist propaganda. The journalist who good news server all colleagues who got into trouble with authorities over reports criticizing the offensive he says the government gave editors of turkeys leading Media Outlets directives on how to report patriotically. I mean you know how all of the newspapers have similar headlines. This is actually government propaganda. Journalists must sense of themselves to avoid trouble. Unfortunately cant do proper journalism in turkey anymore. But mahmoud a columnist for the government friendly daily sabbat disagrees he says the government is not influencing coverage of the afrin offensive. And when it comes to National Security every journalist bears responsibility thats how it is everywhere in the world. But that doesnt mean theyre not free to report on everything but there are some media and intellectuals in turkey who cannot use a freedom of speech with hatred of the government. 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