as you know, it's difficult to convict a police officer in the first place. and if you look at the history of police officers convicted of the unreasonable use of deadly force, this 22 1/2 years is right up there at the top of any officer ever convicted of this in the country. and the fact that the judge tacked on ten years on top of what would be a typical sentence of 12 1/2 years speaks both to the court's attempt to follow the guidelines and finding there are aggravating factors that justified an upward departure of ten plus years. so nothing will bring george floyd back, so no number of years will do that. but if we can do what we can in the law to approximate some kind of justice, i think that we can all feel good about the fact that there was a conviction and that the judge put it in the upper range of convictions of this sort ever in the history of america. >> steve schleicher, as a former