i agree 100% but where was pence when the entire political class, not even the political class, republicans in congress were saying like, can this election be overturned? where was this then when he actually had a role in government? we're now six months. who cares what he says now. it doesn't make a difference, but where was it then when we were trying to ensure a peaceful transfer of power? anyway, i'm just a little bit confused about that. >> jake sherman, i completely agree with you. like in the days after the insurrection, when our capitol was desecrated and people died and people were tortured with the american flag, where the heck was he? was that a paid speech? six months later? what a flop. i mean, what a weak -- well, honestly, he just wasn't standing by our country when he