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do you think that is the way this will likely go if it does go forward, that they'll find a narrower path to doing this? >> i think that's exactly right. they're going to debate how they can quote/unquote strengthen the filibuster in order to have this quote. i think there are a lot of ways to skin this cat, rachel. we've seen proposals to lower the voting threshold from 60 down to 55 down to 50. we've seen proposals to allow vouchers for democracy bills. there are a lot of ways you can make amendments. it's really not black or white right now. but ultimately the guide for whether or not this reform to the filibuster will work is does the majority -- does the senate majority have the ability to call an up-or-down vote on a piece of legislation, or does mitch mcconnell and the senate minority have the ability to straight up veto as they're going to do tomorrow, or do they have the ability to delay for months and months and months? so the senate with just the 50 democratic votes has the ability to change that rule. they can change it to whatever they want. and over the course of the 4th of july recess, we don't need to get into the weeds of this reform or that reform. what we're calling for is american democracy to continue functioning. we're calling for a voting rights reform that is wildly

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