want to participate in said victories. so where does that leave the democrats david? >> well listen joe manchin himself has talked about maybe we could bring the threshold down for the filibuster down to 55. but i tend to agree with that column which i don't think you get five republicans so we have for the filibuster around judicial nominations. i think we might have to get creative. we have to protect our democracy and the right to vote. we are willing to do that. i think we ought to get rid of it entirely but at the very least we have to do what's required to save this democracy which is not just protecting voting rights, as important as it is. all around the country, republicans want to seize control of who decides who wins elections and that is the most damaging thing. and so i think if this congress leaves without passing anything that fights back and against republicans and what they're doing, you're gonna have to look at things like bringing down the number but eventually i think you might have to look