wells. >> these are just names to you, you don't know who the -- >> i have no clue. >> -- who these players are. >> none. >> but kelly did know one of the names: brian wells, the pizza delivery man who'd been blown up. and kelly said marjorie told her that wells was no innocent victim but rather part of the conspiracy. that is, if you can believe a snitch. as for the others, ken barnes, of course, was the crack dealer who was marjorie's fishing buddy. floyd stockton was rothstein's old friend, and was living in rothstein's house at the time of the bombing. marjorie said jim roden, her boyfriend, was in on the plot, too but she killed him when he got cold feet and ended up, ironically, in a freezer. >> he was going to turn her in. and he didn't want to be the getaway driver, he didn't want any part of it, he wanted out. >> and that's marjorie telling you that? >> yes. >> so, roden is dead because -- >> yes. >> -- he didn't want to be in on this