that said this summit should not happen for that very reason, given the risk and reward matrix was that the risk of elevating putin was too great. >> for me it's not only important whether the meeting takes place or not but what was said in that meeting. what's really important to me, for the first time in many, many years we saw and heard an american president put the issue of human rights front and square in these bilateral talks. let's make something clear at the outset. raising human rights issues is not a publicity stunt. it's not some sort of posturing. it's not any of these things that these regimes always dismiss. human rights are inextricably linked to issues of security, issues of economic development. this has been recognized for many decades now. this is originated in the