obviously i think you're going to see a lot of pushing off, no, he knew, no, he knew, and that may happen. the other thing that could be even scarier is that trump had someone inside doj that he communicated with directly. and while, yes, you would expect it to make it up to the head of the doj, it could have happened, but it doesn't matter, the point is that it happened, and that these records, we need to find out if they were on republicans as well. i think "the new york times" is just breaking that mcgahn's records were looked at by apple. so there's a lot of moving parts to this story. the one thing i feel very secure in is knowing that this is the tip of the iceberg, alex. a lot of people are saying garland should have came out sooner and done this. i think that this is going to be part of a much bigger story. >> listen, i've got to tell, if that "new york times" report that you're saying is forthcoming, that they were looking don mcgahn's, then it's