reinstated as president this year. and when trump is not held accountable for encouraging a violent mob for trying to overturn a republican election. this kills a bipartisan commission hoping to investigate the attack. joining me to discuss the state of america democracy, dr. sarah kinzador and author of "hiding in plain sight." thank you both for being here. i'm going to start with this pew poll. we have a recent poll that comes out asking whether or not the united states is still a good example of what america -- what democracy should be. and i'll start with you, sarah. what does it say that 57% of people responding saying that america used to be a good example of democracy but now it isn't? >> well, it shows that 57% of people are paying attention, but i think what we need to look at are the weaknesses that allowed our country to deteriorate so badly during the trump years to