you put the top -- they don't spend much of their paycheck or compensation. people at the bottom spend it. one of the biggest problems we've had in this economy for the past 40 years is you've got a majority of american workers without the means to keep the economy going. >> i want you to talk about, from your perspective as a union president, what a tight labor market does for your bargaining power. there's different ways workers can have power. one is to organize the unions. macroeconomic conditions can give them power. if unemployment is low if labor is scarce, they have more power. if there is tons of people out of, work people banging down the doors, there's a labor surplus, they don't. does it matter to people in organized labor what those macroeconomic conditions are? >> it does, chris. the fact of the matter is we have to grow the labor movement. it's what president biden is saying and he is absolutely right. if we don't grow that sustained