>> so, harry, what would you imagine the pace is of a grand jury hearing evidence and then having to make decisions on charging? do they come all at once? do they hear all the evidence against an individual and then move on to another individual? what does that look like inside a grand jury room? >> it will be quite brisk, and i just want to point out, what frank's saying is exactly right, but this is hardball, right? i mean, this is really putting the squeeze to a 73-year-old, you know, father who -- this is tough, tough stuff. what's it going to look like? they have a real -- a mountain of sort of financial evidence that they'll put in through agents and then, is this accurate, yes, here's all the tax stuff. and then the drama comes if there are witnesses, you know, as they accelerate and the reason it's a little hard to predict is because if weisselberg doesn't, say,