completely untrue and accusing the u.s. of hyping the lab leak theory. >> so, mara gay, so there's intel out there that western intel sources, we have to wait, of course, because we've seen other intel sources that ended up not being accurate. but right now, we've got the intel sources that are suggesting that we look closer to the wuhan lab. scott gottlieb is saying that we have to look at this aggressively. dr. fauci saying the same thing right now. there are a lot of questions about what happened in that lab last fall going into december. >> i have a question for richard, actually, if he is still with us here. i was wondering if he might shed some light into what the strategic purpose behind releasing this kind of intel