but the trait created enough doubt for the prosecutors to pursue prosecution, am i right? >> in a lot of those cases, yes. the genetic trait we found is often used in combination with other health factors or drug use, previous and what happens is the -- the defenders of the police or the police representatives. sometimes, the medical examiners, themselves, will kind of list of all these factors for the person who has died in police custody. and i think it -- you know, it could create a sense that these people may have been, themselves, to blame. >> yeah. >> in these incidents. >> all right. well, i certainly, when i saw your article online and then handed on the front page "the new york times," i wanted to have you on. it was startling because i have heard this over and over, again, dealing in some of these cases. thank you very much, jennifer, for being with us. >> thank you so much. i really appreciate it.