>> and because he felt his life was threatened by the movement, specifically, of mr. dede, he had to take the steps, unfortunately, to take his life. >> the danger of a burglar is when there's a confrontation, and they all want to escape, and they'll do whatever they can to get away. >> reporter: the defense said there was no debate over one central fact. diren dede went into that garage to steal. and on the stand, kaarma's lawyer got diren's friend robby to admit that despite warnings, diren didn't see much wrong with garage hopping. >> i think diren never felt like it was a crime. >> but were warning him. you were telling him it wasn't right. it was reckless. it was dangerous, right? >> yeah. yeah. like, i understand on this way. but he maybe didn't understand. >> reporter: in fact, the defense suggested that diren was part of a local burglary ring that was stealing more than just beer and may have been behind