neighborhoods. they've been told if you come into a low-income neighborhood, you're not going to make money. the fact of the matter, if you look at per capita, people are willing to pay for food, people are willing to pay for good food if you give them food good. >> you use the term, food apartheid. what is that? >> i wanted people to talk about the food system and the systemic changes that has to happen, that we need to talk about the influence of race, economics, and demographics, start having those hard conversations around the food system. why is it in the greatest country in the world where we grow enough food and waste enough food, food is not getting down to people who need it the most. >> washington says the food system is making pick seem and vulnerable to the coronavirus. in this era where covid-19 is disproportionately affecting black and brown, indigenous people, is there a connection between the food availability, fresh food availability, and this increased propensity to be afflicted by things like covid? >> this pandemic has brought to the surface some inequities that