proposals. things like the green new deal and medicare for all. it's an interesting dynamic going into an election that a lot of these revolutionary ideas, so revolutionary ideas, are so quite popular on their face inne i ask you this because you've got the sanders/warren economic plans, which are very -- whether you like them or don't like them, they're very clear. there's structural reform. as jake just said, they're surprisingly popular with a lot of mainstream voters. but then you've got people who are like the front-runner on the democratic side, joe biden, who i couldn't tell you right now with joe biden's economic plan is for america and some of the more moderate candidates like mayor pete, where they carved out a perception of what their personality is. but in terms of policy proposals, not nearly as clear as -- easily identifiable as what the left is saying. how does that play out among democrats? >> that's interesting, looking at elizabeth warren for an