to the principles of including ethnic minorities, religious and racial minorities. >> i should back up a little bit because the pluck charge rule that you were responding to under that plan the u.s. would be able to deny lawful permanent status to low-income legal immigrants that rely on federally assisted programs. i'm curious, as we look at all of you, would all of you be here in this country based on these new immigration policies? >> i would not. >> i'm not sure but i know that my aunt has done a lot of research and we go back to the mayflower. i'm not sure. >> glen? >> i don't know if i would want to be in a country that instituted that exclusionary rule, but i was enlightened by the reporting that stephen miller apparently his parents were immigrants and yet he's looking to bar immigrants. i don't quite understand how somebody can take that position. >> jason, last word to you. >> i think your question goes to the heart of what they're trying to do, beyond the commas and the