it, person he appointed ironically the person whose interest rates he misses are the previous occupant. but he maybe jessica yellin wasn't his flavor. i don't know. i think the fed is an arcane place to be battering, that i don't know if the public comprehends it the way he would think. >> there's an interesting sector of the republican party that weirdly cares about the fed though. remember the ron paul and rand paul. >> it's in the paul wing of the party. >> it's not across the board. >> no. >> you don't go to cpac and have conversations with people about the fed chair. >> that is the place where you talk about the fed. >> they want to audit the fed and go to the gold standard. >> it's kind of a nearby area of interest. trump is likely to export that the because he's treating powell the same way he treat mueller which is saying here's somebody, an independent actor and i could fire him but i probably can't therefore, he's the guy ruining everything. >> michael? >> look, i think you both said