in terms of the public's interest, as jill points out, there were about 2,000 pages of documents that were released about 24 hours before epstein apparently killed himself. and there are many, many more pages of documents to come. the court files are still sealed in large part. and we're waiting on a judge to unseal the remainder of those documents. so there's a lot more to be learned not only about epstein, but associates who might have fueled his crimes. >> as we look at those 2,000 pages of documents here, jill, we don't necessarily know exactly what's inside of it. for a moment here, jill, what may have been in those documents that may be associated with this apparent suicide, if at all here? >> well, i think just the fact that he realized that the jig was up, so to speak, and he was really being revealed for what he was may have led to some action on his part. but, remember, we have to hold off any judgment about whether this was a suicide, whether it